AIRSTRIKE IN SYRIA BY ISRAEL
IS THIS NEXT?
Dee Finney's blog
start date July 20, 2011
today's date 5-4-2013
5-10-2013
UPDATED DAILY
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TOPIC: ISRAEL ATTACKS SYRIA - IS THIS THE START OF WWIII?
THE SYRIAN WAR - WHAT YOU AREN'T BEING TOLD - VIDEO:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkamZg68jpk
THE START OF WWIII - VIDEO:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZK5gRLJ9h0
John Kerry On Syria: 'Sarin Was Used. Sarin Killed.'
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www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/john-kerry-in-london-campaigns-for-worl...
16 hours ago ... Syria embraces
Moscow's call to relinquish control of chemical weapons to avoid
a U.S. strike.
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www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2013/09/20139109613395758.html
15 hours ago ... Decision aimed at "removing
grounds for US aggression" as support grows for putting arms
under international scrutiny.
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www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/09/09/russia-syria/2785703/
17 hours ago ... The Syrian
government said Monday it welcomed the Russian proposal to avoid
a U.S.military strike by placing its chemical weapons under ...
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worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/09/10/20416189-peaceful-solution-syria-accepts-...
12 hours ago ... President Barack Obama has
agreed to discuss Russia's proposal that Syria hand over
chemical weapons, the White House said Tuesday after ...
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www.cnn.com/2013/09/09/politics/syria-kerry/
19 hours ago ... Obama: Russia
proposal for Syria 'positive development' -- if it's real ...
The Syrian government's suspected use of chemical weapons
in a ...
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www.nytimes.com/2013/09/10/world/middleeast/kerry-says-syria-should-hand-over-al...
1 day ago ... President Obama called a
Russian proposal to have Syria surrender its chemical
weapons stockpiles "potentially positive," but said he would ...
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www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/10/syria-accepts-proposal-to-surrender-chemical-w...
10 hours ago ... The Associated Press
reports Syria's Foreign Minister has said his country has
accepted a Russian proposal to relinquish control of its
chemical ...
9-9-13
President al-Assad's Interview with CBS News. Video
and Transcript
By Bashar al Assad
Global
Research, September 10, 2013
http://www.globalresearch.ca/president-al-assads-interview-with-cbs-news/5349165
SANA, 10 September 2013
President Bashar al-Assad gave an interview to
American CBS news.
Following is the full text of the interview:
Highlighting by GR Editor
CBS: Mr. President thank you very much for
this opportunity to talk to you at a very important moment because the
President of the United States will address the nation this week and, as you
know an important conversation is taking place in Washington and important
things are happening here in your country. Do you expect an airstrike?
President al-Assad: As long as the United
States doesn't obey the international law and trample over the Charter of
the United Nations we have to worry that any administration - not only this
one - would do anything. According to the lies
that we've been hearing for the last two weeks from high-ranking officials
in the US administration we have to expect the worst.
CBS: Are you prepared?
President al-Assad: We've been living in
difficult circumstances for the last two years and a half, and we prepare
ourselves for every possibility. But that
doesn't mean if you're prepared things will be better; it's going to get
worse with any foolish strike or stupid war.
CBS: What do you mean worse?
President al-Assad: Worse because of the
repercussions because nobody can tell you the repercussions of the first
strike. We're talking about one region, bigger regions, not only about
Syria. This interlinked region, this intermingled, interlocked, whatever
you want to call it; if you strike somewhere, you have to expect the
repercussions somewhere else in different forms in ways you don't expect.
CBS: Are you suggesting that if in fact there is a strike; there
will be repercussions against the United States from your friends in other
countries like Iran or Hezbollah or others?
President al-Assad: As I said, this may take
different forms: direct and indirect. Direct when people want to retaliate,
or governments. Indirect when you're going to have instability and the
spread of terrorism all over the region that will influence the west
directly.
CBS: Have you had conversations with Russia,
with Iran or with Hezbollah about how to retaliate?
President al-Assad: We don't discuss this
issue as a government, but we discuss the repercussions, which is more
important because sometimes repercussions could be more destroying than the
strike itself. Any American strike will not destroy as much as the
terrorists have already destroyed in Syria; sometimes the repercussions
could be many doubles the strike itself.
CBS: But some have suggested that it might tip
the balance in the favor of the rebels and lead to the overthrow of your
government.
Any strike will be as direct support to Al-Qaeda
President al-Assad: Exactly. Any strike will
be as direct support to Al-Qaeda offshoot that's called Jabhat al-Nusra and
the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria. You're right about this. It's going
to be direct support.
CBS: This is about chemical warfare. Let's
talk about that. Do you approve of the use of chemical warfare, the use of
deadly chemicals? Do you think that it is an appropriate tool of war, to
use chemicals?
President al-Assad: We are against any WMD, any
weapons of mass destruction, whether chemical or nuclear.
CBS: So you're against the use of chemical
warfare?
President al-Assad: Yes, not only me. As a
state, as a government, in 2001 we proposed to the United Nations to empty
or to get rid of every WMD in the Middle East, and the United States stood
against that proposal. This is our conviction and policy.
CBS: But you're not a signatory to the chemical
warfare agreement.
President al-Assad: Not yet.
CBS: Why not?
President al-Assad: Because Israel has WMD,
and it has to sign, and Israel is occupying our land, so that's we talked
about the Middle East, not Syria, not Israel; it should be comprehensive.
CBS: Do you consider chemical warfare
equivalent to nuclear warfare?
President al-Assad: I don't know. We haven't
tried either.
CBS: But you know, you're a head of state, and
you understand the consequences of weapons that don't discriminate.
President al-Assad: Technically, they're not
the same. But morally, it's the same.
CBS: Morally, they are the same.
President al-Assad: They are the same, but at
the end, killing is killing. Massacring is massacring. Sometimes you may
kill tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands with very primitive
armaments.
CBS: Then why do you have such a stockpile of
chemical weapons?
President al-Assad: We don't discuss this
issue in public because we never said that we have it, and we never said
that we don't have it. It's a Syrian issue; it's a military issue we never
discuss in public with anyone.
CBS: This is from the New York Times this
morning: Syria's leaders amassed one of the world's largest stockpiles of
chemical weapons with help from the Soviet Union and Iran as well as Western
European suppliers, and even a handful of American companies. According to
American diplomatic cables and declassified intelligence records, you have
amassed one of the largest supplies of chemical weapons in the world.
President al-Assad: To have or not to have is
a possibility, but to depend on what media says is nonsense, or to depend on
some of the reports of the intelligence is nonsense and that was proven when
they invaded Iraq ten years ago and they said "Iraq has stockpiles of WMD"
and it was proven after the invasion that this was false; it was fraud. So,
we can't depend on what one magazine wrote. But at the end, I said it's
something not to be discussed with anyone.
CBS: You accept that the world believes that
you have a stockpile of chemical weapons?
President al-Assad: Who?
CBS: The world. The United States and other
powers who also said that you have chemical weapons.
President al-Assad: It isn't about what they
believe in, it's about the reality that we have, and this reality, we own
it, we don't have to discuss it.
CBS: Speaking of reality, what was the reality
on August 21st? What happened in your judgment?
President al-Assad: We're not in the area
where the alleged chemical attack happened. I said alleged. We're not sure
that anything happened.
CBS: Even at this date, you're not sure that
chemical weapons - even though you have seen the video tape, even though
you've seen the bodies, even though your own officials have been there.
President al-Assad: I haven't finished. Our
soldiers in another area were attacked chemically. Our soldiers - they went
to the hospital as casualties because of chemical weapons, but in the area
where they said the government used chemical weapons, we only had video and
we only have pictures and allegations. We're not there; our forces, our
police, our institutions don't exist there. How can you talk about what
happened if you don't have evidence? We're not like the American
administration, we're not social media administration or government. We are
a government that deals with reality. When we have evidence, we'll announce
it.
CBS: Well, as you know, Secretary Kerry has
said there is evidence and that they saw rockets that fired from a region
controlled by your forces into a region controlled by the rebels. They have
evidence from satellite photographs of that. They have evidence of a
message that was intercepted about chemical weapons, and soon thereafter
there were other intercepted messages, so Secretary Kerry has presented what
he views as conclusive evidence.
Kerry reminds about the big lie that ColLin
Powell said in front of the world on satellites about the WMD in Iraq
President al-Assad: No, he presented his
confidence and his convictions. It's not about confidence, it's about
evidence. The Russians have completely opposite evidence that the missiles
were thrown from an area where the rebels control. This reminds me - what
Kerry said - about the big lie that Collin Powell said in front of the
world on satellites about the WMD in Iraq before going to war. He said
"this is our evidence." Actually, he gave false evidence. In this case,
Kerry didn't even present any evidence. He talked "we have evidence" and he
didn't present anything. Not yet, nothing so far; not a single shred of
evidence.
CBS: Do you have some remorse for those
bodies, those people, it is said to be up to at least a thousand or perhaps
1400, who were in Eastern Ghouta, who died?
President al-Assad: We feel pain for every
Syrian victim.
CBS: What about the victims of this assault
from chemical warfare?
President al-Assad: Dead is dead, killing is
killing, crime is crime. When you feel pain, you feel pain about their
family, about the loss that you have in your country, whether one person was
killed or a hundred or a thousand. It's a loss, it's a crime, it's a moral
issue. We have family that we sit with, family that loved their dear ones.
It's not about how they are killed, it's about that they are dead now; this
is the bad thing.
CBS: But has there been any remorse or sadness
on behalf of the Syrian people for what happened?
President al-Assad: I think sadness prevails
in Syria now. We don't feel anything else but sadness because we have this
killing every day, whether with chemical or any other kind. It's not about
how. We feel with it every day.
CBS: But this was indiscriminate, and children
were killed, and people who said goodbye to their children in the morning
didn't see them and will never see them again, in Ghouta.
President al-Assad: That is the case every day
in Syria, that's why you have to stop the killing. That's why we have to
stop the killing. But what do you mean by "indiscriminate" that you are
talking about?
CBS: Well, the fact that chemical warfare is
indiscriminate in who it kills, innocents as well as combatants.
President al-Assad: Yeah, but you're not
talking about evidence, you're not talking about facts, we are talking about
allegations. So, we're not sure that if there's chemical weapon used and
who used it. We can't talk about virtual things, we have to talk about
facts.
CBS: It is said that your government delayed
the United Nations observers from getting to Ghouta and that you denied and
delayed the Red Cross then the Red Crescent from getting there to make
observations and to help.
President al-Assad: The opposite happened,
your government delayed because we asked for a delegation in March 2013 when
the first attack happened in Aleppo in the north of Syria; they delayed it
till just a few days before al-Ghouta when they sent those team, and the
team itself said in its report that he did everything as he wanted. There
was not a single obstacle.
CBS: But they said they were delayed in
getting there, that they wanted to be there earlier.
President al-Assad: No, no, no; there was a
conflict, there was fighting, they were shooting. That's it. We didn't
prevent them from going anywhere. We asked them to come; why to delay
them? Even if you want to take the American story, they say we used
chemical weapons the same day the team or the investigation team came to
Syria; is it logical? It's not logical. Even if a country or army wanted
to use such weapon, they should have waited a few days till the
investigation finished its work. It's not logical, the whole story doesn't
even hold together.
CBS: We'll come back to it. If your government
did not do it, despite the evidence, who did it?
President al-Assad: We have to be there to get
the evidence like what happened in Aleppo when we had evidence. And because
the United States didn't send the team, we sent the evidence to the
Russians.
CBS: But don't you want to know the answer, if
you don't accept the evidence so far, as to who did this?
President al-Assad: The question is who threw
chemicals on the same day on our soldiers. That's the same question.
Technically, not the soldiers. Soldiers don't throw missiles on
themselves. So, either the rebels, the terrorists, or a third party. We
don't have any clue yet. We have to be there to collect the evidences then
we can give answer.
CBS: Well, the argument is made that the
rebels don't have their capability of using chemical weapons, they do not
have the rockets and they do not have the supply of chemical weapons that
you have, so therefore they could not have done it.
President al-Assad: First of all, they have
rockets, and they've been throwing rockets on Damascus for months.
CBS: That carry chemical weapons?
President al-Assad: Rockets in general. They
have the means - first. Second, the sarin gas that they've been talking
about for the last weeks is a very primitive gas. You can have it done in
the backyard of a house; it's a very primitive gas. So, it's not something
complicated.
CBS: But this was not primitive. This was a
terrible use of chemical weapons.
President al-Assad: Third, they used it in
Aleppo in the north of Syria. Fourth, there's a video on YouTube where the
terrorists clearly make trials on a rabbit and kill the rabbit and said
"this is how we're going to kill the Syrian people." Fifth, there's a new
video about one of those women who they consider as rebel or fighter who
worked with those terrorists and she said "they didn't tell us how to use
the chemical weapons" and one of those weapons exploded in one of the
tunnels and killed twelve. That's what she said. Those are the evidence
that we have. Anyway, the party who accused is the one who has to bring
evidences. The United States accused Syria, and because you accused you
have to bring evidence, this first of all. We have to find evidences when we
are there.
CBS: What evidence would be sufficient for you?
President al-Assad: For example, in Aleppo we
had the missile itself, and the material, and the sample from the sand, from
the soil, and samples from the blood.
CBS: But the argument is made that your forces
bombarded Ghouta soon thereafter with the intent of covering up evidence.
President al-Assad: How could bombardment
cover the evidence? Technically, it doesn't work. How? This is stupid to be
frank, this is very stupid.
CBS: But you acknowledge the bombardment?
President al-Assad: Of course, there was a
fight. That happens every day; now you can have it. But, let's talkŠ we
have indications, let me just finish this point, because how can use WMD
while your troops are only 100 meters away from it? Is it logical? It
doesn't happen. It cannot be used like this. Anyone who's not military
knows this fact. Why do you use chemical weapons while you're advancing?
Last year was much more difficult than this year, and we didn't use it.
CBS: There is this question too; if it was not
you, does that mean that you don't have control of your own chemical weapons
and that perhaps they have fallen into the hands of other people who might
want to use them?
President al-Assad: That implies that we have
chemical weapons, first. That implies that it's being used, second. So we
cannot answer this question until we answer the first part and the second
part. Third, let's presume that a country or army has this weapon; this
kind of armaments cannot be used by infantry for example or by anyone. This
kind of armament should be used by specialized units, so it cannot be in the
hand of anyone.
CBS: Well, exactly, that's the point.
President al-Assad: Which is controlled
centrally.
CBS: Ah, so you are saying that if in fact,
your government did it, you would know about it and you would have approved
it.
President al-Assad: I'm talking about a
general case.
CBS: In general, you say if in fact it
happened, I would have known about it and approved it. That's the nature of
centralized power.
President al-Assad: Generally, in every
country, yes. I'm talking about the general rules, because I cannot discuss
this point with you in detail unless I'm telling you what we have and what
we don't have, something I'm not going to discuss as I said at the very
beginning, because this is a military issue that could not be discussed.
CBS: Do you question the New York Times
article I read to you, saying you had a stockpile of chemical weapons?
You're not denying that.
President al-Assad: No, we don't say yes, we
don't say no, because as long as this is classified, it shouldn't be
discussed.
CBS: The United States is prepared to launch a
strike against your country because they believe chemical weapons are so
abhorrent, that anybody who uses them crosses a red line, and that
therefore, if they do that, they have to be taught a lesson so that they
will not do it again.
President al-Assad: What red line? Who drew
it?
CBS: The President says that it's not just him,
that the world has drawn it in their revulsion against the use of chemical
weapons, that the world has drawn this red line.
We have our red lines: our sovereignty, our
independence
President al-Assad: Not the world, because
Obama drew that line, and Obama can draw lines for himself and his country,
not for other countries. We have our red lines, like our sovereignty, our
independence, while if you want to talk about world red lines, the United
States used depleted uranium in Iraq, Israel used white phosphorus in Gaza,
and nobody said anything. What about the red lines? We don't see red
lines. It's political red lines.
CBS: The President is prepared to strike, and
perhaps he'll get the authorization of Congress or not. The question then
is would you give up chemical weapons if it would prevent the President from
authorizing a strike? Is that a deal you would accept?
President al-Assad: Again, you always imply
that we have chemical weapons.
CBS: I have to, because that is the assumption
of the President. That is his assumption, and he is the one that will order
the strike.
President al-Assad: It's his problem if he has
an assumption, but for us in Syria, we have principles. We'd do anything to
prevent the region from another crazy war. It's not only Syria because it
will start in Syria.
CBS: You'd do anything to prevent the region
from having another crazy war?
President al-Assad: The region, yes.
CBS: You realize the consequences for you if
there is a strike?
President al-Assad: It's not about me. It's
about the region.
CBS: It's about your country, it's about your
people.
President al-Assad: Of course, my country and
me, we are part of this region, we're not separated. We cannot discuss it
as Syria or as me; it should be as part, as a whole, as comprehensive.
That's how we have to look at it.
CBS: Some ask why would you do it? It's a
stupid thing to do if you're going to bring a strike down on your head by
using chemical weapons. Others say you'd do it because A: you're desperate,
or the alternative, you do it because you want other people to fear you,
because these are such fearful weapons that if the world knows you have
them, and specifically your opponents in Syria, the rebels, then you have
gotten away with it and they will live in fear, and that therefore, the
President has to do something.
President al-Assad: You cannot be desperate
when the army is making advances. That should have happened - if we take
into consideration that this presumption is correct and this is reality -
you use it when you're in a desperate situation. So, our position is much
better than before. So, this is not correct.
CBS: You think you're winning the war.
President al-Assad: "Winning" is a subjective
word, but we are making advancement. This is the correct word, because
winning for some people is when you finish completely.
CBS: Then the argument is made that if you're
winning, it is because of the recent help you have got from Iran and from
Hezbollah and additional supplies that have come to your side. People from
outside Syria supporting you in the effort against the rebels.
President al-Assad: Iran doesn't have any
soldier in Syria, so how could Iran help me?
CBS: Supplies, weaponry?
President al-Assad: That's all before the
crisis. We always have this kind of cooperation.
CBS: Hezbollah, Hezbollah fighters have been
here.
President al-Assad: Hezbollah fighters are on
the borders with Lebanon where the terrorists attacked them. On the borders
with Lebanon, this is where Hezbollah retaliated, and this is where we have
cooperation, and that's good.
CBS: Hezbollah forces are in Syria today?
President al-Assad: On the border area with
Lebanon where they want to protect themselves and cooperate with us, but
they don't exist all over Syria. They cannot exist all over Syria anyway,
for many reasons, but they exist on the borders.
CBS: What advice are you getting from the
Russians?
President al-Assad: About?
CBS: About this war, about how to end this
war.
Every friend of Syria is looking for peaceful
solution
President al-Assad: Every friend of Syria is
looking for peaceful solution, and we are convinced about that. We have
this advice, and without this advice we are convinced about it.
CBS: Do you have a plan to end the war?
President al-Assad: Of course.
CBS: Which is?
President al-Assad: At the very beginning, it
was fully political. When you have these terrorists, the first part of the
same plan which is political should start with stopping the smuggling of
terrorists coming from abroad, stopping the logistic support, the money, all
kinds of support coming to these terrorists. This is the first part.
Second, we can have national dialogue where different Syrian parties sit and
discuss the future of Syria. Third, you can have interim government or
transitional government. Then you have final elections, parliamentary
elections, and you're going to have presidential elections.
CBS: But the question is: would you meet with
rebels today to discuss a negotiated settlement?
President al-Assad: In the initiative that we
issued at the beginning of this year we said every party with no exceptions
as long as they give up their armaments.
CBS: But you'll meet with the rebels and
anybody who's fighting against you if they give up their weapons?
President al-Assad: We don't have a problem.
CBS: Then they will say "you are not giving up
your weapons, why should we give up our weapons?"
President al-Assad: Does a government give up
its weapons? Have you heard about that before?
CBS: No, but rebels don't normally give up
their weapons either during the negotiations; they do that after a
successfulŠ
President al-Assad: The armament of the
government is legal armament. Any other armament is not legal. So how can
you compare? It's completely different.
CBS: There's an intense discussion going on
about all the things we're talking about in Washington, where if there's a
strike, it will emanate from the United States' decision to do this. What
do you want to say, in this very important week, in America, and in
Washington, to the American people, the members of Congress, to the
President of the United States?
President al-Assad: I think the most important
part of this now is, let's say the American people, but the polls show that
the majority now don't want a war, anywhere, not only against Syria, but the
Congress is going to vote about this in a few days, and I think the Congress
is elected by people, it represents the people, and works for their
interest. The first question that they should ask themselves: what do wars
give America, since Vietnam till now? Nothing. No political gain, no
economic gain, no good reputation. The United States' credibility is at an
all-time low. So, this war is against the interest of the Untied States.
Why? First, this war is going to support Al-Qaeda and the same people that
killed Americans in the 11th of September. The second thing that we want to
tell Congress, that they should ask and that what we expect them to ask this
administration about the evidence that they have regarding the chemical
story and allegations that they presented.
I wouldn't tell the President or any other official,
because we are disappointed by their behavior recently, because we expected
this administration to be different from Bush's administration. They are
adopting the same doctrine with different accessories. That's it. So if we
want to expect something from this administration, it is not to be weak, to
be strong to say that "we don't have evidence," that "we have to obey the
international law", that "we have to go back to the Security Council and the
United Nations".
CBS: The question remains; what can you say to
the President who believes chemical weapons were used by your government;
that this will not happen again.
President al-Assad: I will tell him very
simply: present what you have as evidence to the public, be transparent.
CBS: And if he does? If he presents that
evidence?
President al-Assad: This is where we can
discuss the evidence, but he doesn't have it. He didn't present it because
he doesn't have it, Kerry doesn't have it. No one in your administration
has it. If they had it, they would have presented it to you as media from
the first day.
CBS: They have presented it to the Congress.
President al-Assad: Nothing. Nothing was
presented.
CBS: They've shown the Congress what they have,
and the evidence they have, from satellite intercepted messages and the
like.
President al-Assad: Nothing has been presented
so far.
CBS: They have presented it to the Congress,
sir.
President al-Assad: You are a reporter. Get
this evidence and show it to the public in your country.
CBS: They're presenting it to the public
representative. You don't show your evidence and what you're doing and your
plans to people within your own council. They're showing it to the people's
representative who have to vote on an authorization to strike, and if they
don't find the evidence sufficientŠ
President al-Assad: First of all, we have the
precedent of Collin Powell ten years ago, when he showed the evidence, it
was false, and it was forged. This is first. Second, you want me to
believe American evidence and don't want me to believe the indications that
we have. We live here, this is our reality.
CBS: Your indications are what?
President al-Assad: That the rebels or the
terrorists used the chemical weapons in northern Aleppo five months ago.
CBS: And on August 21st?
President al-Assad: No, no, no. That was
before. On the 21st, again they used it against our soldiers in our area
where we control it, and our soldiers went to the hospital, you can see them
if you want.
CBS: But Ghouta is not controlled by your
forces, it's controlled by the rebel forces. The area where that attack took
place is controlled by rebel forces.
President al-Assad: What if they have
stockpiles and they exploded because of the bombardment? What if they used
the missile by mistake and attacked themselves by mistake?
CBS: Let me move to the question of whether a
strike happens, and I touched on this before. You have had fair warning.
Have you prepared by moving possible targets, are you moving targets within
civilian populations, all the things that you might have done if you have
time to do that and you have had clear warning that this might be coming?
President al-Assad: Syria is in a state of war
since its land was occupied for more than four decades, and the nature of
the frontier in Syria implies that most of the army is in inhabited areas,
most of the centers are in inhabited areas. You hardly find any military
base in distant areas from the cities unless it's an airport or something
like this, but most of the military bases or centers within inhabited areas.
CBS: Will there be attacks against American
bases in the Middle East if there's an airstrike?
President al-Assad: You should expect
everything. Not necessarily through the government, the governments are not
the only player in this region. You have different parties, different
factions, you have different ideologies; you have everything in this region
now. So, you have to expect that.
CBS: Tell me what you mean by "expect
everything."
President al-Assad: Expect every action.
CBS: Including chemical warfare?
President al-Assad: That depends. If the
rebels or the terrorists in this region or any other group have it, this
could happen, I don't know. I'm not a fortuneteller to tell you what's
going to happen.
CBS: But we'd like to know more, I think the
President would like to know, the American people would like to know. If
there is an attack, what might be the repercussions and who might be engaged
in those repercussions?
President al-Assad: Okay, before the 11th of
September, in my discussions with many officials of the United States, some
of them are Congressmen, I used to say that "don't deal with terrorists as
playing games." It's a different story. You're going to pay the price if
you're not wise in dealing with terrorists. We said you're going to be
repercussions of the mistaken way of dealing with it, of treating the
terrorism, but nobody expected 11th of September. So, you cannot expect.
It is difficult for anyone to tell you what is going to happen. It's an
area where everything is on the brink of explosion. You have to expect
everything.
CBS: Let's talk about the war today. A
hundred thousand people dead. A million refugees. A country being
destroyed. Do you take some responsibility for that?
President al-Assad: That depends on the
decision that I took. From the first day I took the decision as President
to defend my country. So, who killed? That's another question.
Actually, the terrorists have been killing our people since the beginning of
this crisis two years and a half ago, and the Syrian people wanted the
government and the state institutions and the army and the police to defend
them, and that's what happened. So we're
talking about the responsibility, my responsibility according to the Syrian
constitution that said we have to defend ourselves.
CBS: Mr. President, you constantly say "it's
terrorists." Most people look at the rebels and they say that Al-Qaeda and
other forces from outside Syria are no more than 15 or 20 percent of the
forces on the ground. The other 80% are Syrians, are defectors from your
government, and defectors from your military. They are people who are
Syrians who believe that their country should not be run by a dictator,
should not be run by one family, and that they want a different government
in their country. That's 80% of the people fighting against you, not
terrorists.
President al-Assad: We didn't say that 80%,
for example, or the majority or the vast majority, are foreigners. We said
the vast majority are Al-Qaeda or Al-Qaeda offshoot organizations in this
region. When you talk about Al-Qaeda it
doesn't matter if he's Syrian or American or from Europe or from Asia or
Africa. Al-Qaeda has one ideology and they go back to the same leadership
in Afghanistan or in Syria or in Iraq. That's the question. You have tens
of thousands of foreigners, that's definitely correct. We are fighting them
on the ground and we know this.
CBS: But that's 15 or 20% of this. That's a
realistic look at how many.
President al-Assad: Nobody knows because when
they are dead and they are killed, they don't have any ID. You look at
their faces, they look foreigners, but where are they coming from? How
precise this estimate is difficult to tell, but definitely the majority are
Al-Qaeda. This is what concerns us, not the nationality. If you have
Syrian Al-Qaeda, or Pakistani Al-Qaeda or Saudi Al-Qaeda, what's the
difference? What does it matter? The most
important thing is that the majority are Al-Qaeda. We never said that the
majority are not Syrians, but we said that the minority is what they call
"free Syrian army." That's what we said.
CBS: Do you believe this is becoming a
religious war?
President al-Assad: It started partly as a
sectarian war in some areas, but now it's not, because when you talk about
sectarian war or religious war, you should have a very clear line between
the sects and religions in Syria according to the geography and the
demography in Syria, something we don't have. So, it's not religious war,
but Al-Qaeda always use religions, Islam - actually, as a pretext and as a
cover and as a mantle for their war and for their terrorism and for their
killing and beheading and so on.
CBS: Why has this war lasted two and a half
years?
President al-Assad:
Because of the external interference, because there is an external agenda
supported by, or let's say led by the United States, the West, the
petrodollar countries, mainly Saudi Arabia, and before was Qatar, and
Turkey. That's why it lasted two years and a half.
CBS: But what are they doing, those countries
you cited?
The West wanted to undermine the Syrian
positions
President al-Assad: They have different
agendas. For the West, they wanted to undermine the Syrian positions. For
the petrodollar countries like Saudi Arabia, they're thinking undermining
Syria will undermine Iran on sectarian basis. For Turkey, they think that
if the Muslim Brotherhood take over the rest of the region, they will be
very comfortable, they will be very happy, they will make sure that their
political future is guaranteed. So they have different agendas and
different goals.
CBS: But at the same time, as I said, you used
Hezbollah and got support from Iran, from Russia. So, what is happening
here. Is this a kind of war that exists because of support from outside
Syria on both sides?
President al-Assad: This is cooperation, I
don't know what you mean by support. We have cooperation with countries for
decades. Why talk about this cooperation now?
CBS: Then you tell me, what are you receiving
from Iran?
President al-Assad: Political support. We
have agreements with many countries including Iran, including Russia,
including other countries that are about different things including
armament. It's cooperation like any cooperation between any two countries,
which is normal. It's not related to the crisis. You don't call it
support, because you pay money for what you get. So, you don't call it
support, it's cooperation, call it whatever you want, but the word "support"
is not precise. From Russia for example, we have political support, which is
different from the cooperation. We have cooperation for 60 years now, but
now we have political support.
CBS: Well, the Russians said they have ongoing
support for you, but beyond just political cooperation. I mean they have
treaties that existed with Syria.
President al-Assad: Exactly.
CBS: And they provide all kinds of defensive
weapons.
President al-Assad: You said treaties, and a
Russian official said; we have not agreementŠ contracts, that we have to
fulfill, and those contracts are like any country; you buy armaments, you
buy anything you want.
CBS: But do you believe this has become a
conflict of Sunni vs. Shia'a?
President al-Assad: No, not yet. This is in
the mind of the Saudis, and this is in the minds of the Wahabists.
CBS: And in the minds of the Iranians?
President al-Assad: No, no, actually what they
are doing is the opposite. They tried to open channels with the Saudi, with
many other Islamic entities in the region in order to talk about Islamic
society, not Sunni and Shi'ite societies.
CBS: Was there a moment for you, when you saw
the Arab spring approaching Syria, that you said "I've seen what happened in
Libya, I've seen what happened in Tunisia, I've seen what happened in Egypt,
it's not gonna happen to Bashar al-al-Assad. I will fight anybody that tries
to overthrow my regime with everything I have."
President al-Assad: No, for one reason;
because the first question that I ask: do I have public support or not.
That is the first question that I asked as President. If I don't have the
public support, whether there's the so-called "Arab spring" - it's not
spring, anyway - but whether we have this or we don't, if you don't have
public support, you have to quit, you have to leave. If you have public
support, in any circumstances you have to stay. That's your mission, you
have to help the people, you have to serve the people.
CBS: When you say "public support" people
point to Syria and say a minority sect, Alawites, control a majority Sunni
population, and they say "dictatorship" and they do it because it because of
the force of their own instruments of power. That's what you have, not
public support, for this war against other Syrians.
President al-Assad: Now, it's been two years
and a half, ok? Two years and a half and Syria is still withstanding against
the United States, the West, Saudi Arabia, the richest countries in this
area, including Turkey, and, taking into consideration what your question
implies, that even the big part or the bigger part of the Syrian population
is against me, how can I withstand till today? Am I the superhuman or
Superman, which is not the case!
CBS: Or you have a powerful army.
President al-Assad: The army is made of the
people; it cannot be made of robots. It's made of people.
CBS: Surely you're not suggesting that this
army is not at your will and the will of your family.
President al-Assad: What do you mean by "will
of the family?"
CBS: The will of your family. Your brother is
in the military. The military has beenŠ every observer of Syria believes
that this is a country controlled by your family and controlled by the
Alawites who are your allies. That's the control.
President al-Assad: If that situation was
correct - what you're mentioning - we wouldn't have withstood for two years
and a half. We would have disintegration of the army, disintegration of the
whole institution in the state; we would have disintegration of Syria if
that was the case. It can't be tolerated in Syria. I'm talking about the
normal reaction of the people. If it's not a national army, it cannot have
the support, and if it doesn't have the public support of every sect, it
cannot do its job and advance recently. It cannot. The army of the family
doesn't make national war.
CBS: Some will argue that you didn't have this
support because in fact the rebels were winning before you got the support
of Hezbollah and an enlarged support from the Iranians, that you were losing
and then they came in and gave you support so that you were able to at least
start winning and produce at least a stalemate.
President al-Assad: No, the context is wrong,
because talking about winning and losing is like if you're talking about two
armies fighting on two territories, which is not the case. Those are gangs,
coming from abroad, infiltrate inhabited areas, kill the people, take their
houses, and shoot at the army. The army cannot do the same, and the army
doesn't exist everywhere.
CBS: But they control a large part of your
country.
President al-Assad: No, they went to every
part there's no army in it, and the army went to clean and get rid of them.
They don't go to attack the army in an area where the army occupied that
area and took it from it. It's completely different, it's not correct, or
it's not precise what you're talking about. So, it's completely different.
What the army is doing is cleaning those areas, and the indication that the
army is strong is that it's making advancement in that area. It never went
to one area and couldn't enter to it - that's an indication. How could that
army do that if it's a family army or a sect army? What about the rest of
the country who support the government? It's not realistic, it doesn't
happen. Otherwise, the whole country will collapse.
CBS: One small point about American
involvement here, the President's gotten significant criticism because he
has not supported the rebels more. As you know, there was an argument
within his own counsels from Secretary of State Clinton, from CIA Director
David Petraeus, from the Defense Department, Leon Penetta, Secretary of
Defense, and others, that they should have helped the rebels two years ago,
and we would be in a very different place, so the President has not given
enough support to the rebels in the view of many people, and there's
criticism that when he made a recent decision to give support, it has not
gotten to the rebels, because they worry about the composition.
President al-Assad: If the American
administration want to support Al-Qaeda - go ahead. That's what we have to
tell them, go ahead and support Al-Qaeda, but don't talk about rebels and
free Syrian army. The majority of fighters now are Al-Qaeda. If you want
to support them, you are supporting Al-Qaeda, you are creating havoc in the
region, and if this region is not stable, the whole world cannot be stable.
CBS: With respect, sir, most people don't
believe the majority of forces are Al-Qaeda. Yes, there is a number of
people who are Al-Qaeda affiliates and who are here who subscribe to the
principles of Al-Qaeda, but that's not the majority of the forces as you
know. You know that the composition differs within the regions of Syria as
to the forces that are fighting against your regime.
The American officials should learn to deal with
reality
President al-Assad: The American officials
should learn to deal with reality. Why did the United States fail in most
of its wars? Because it always based its wars on the wrong information.
So, whether they believe or not, this is not reality. I have to be very
clear and very honest. I'm not asking them to believe if they don't want to
believe. This is reality, I'm telling you the reality from our country. We
live here, we know what is happening, and they have to listen to people
here. They cannot listen only to their media or to their research centers.
They don't live here; no one lives here but us. So, this is reality. If
they want to believe, that's good, that will help them understand the region
and be more successful in their policies.
CBS: Many people think this is not a
sustainable position here; that this war cannot continue, because the cost
for Syria is too high. Too many deaths - a hundred thousand and counting,
too many refugees, too much destruction; the soul of a country at risk. If
it was for the good of the country, would you step down?
President al-Assad: That depends on the
relation of me staying in this position and the conflict. We cannot discuss
it just to say you have to step down. Step down, why, and what is the
expected result? This is first. Second, when you're in the middle of a
storm, leaving your country just because you have to leave without any
reasonable reason, it means you're quitting your country and this is
treason.
CBS: You say it would be treason for you to
step down right now because of your obligation to the country?
President al-Assad: Unless the public wants
you to quit.
CBS: And how will you determine that?
President al-Assad: By the two years and a
half withstanding. Without the public support, we cannot withstand two
years and a half. Look at the other countries, look what happened in Libya,
in Tunisia and in Egypt.
CBS: You worry about that, what happened to
Gaddafi?
President al-Assad: No, we are worried that
rebels are taking control in many countries, and look at the results now.
Are you satisfied as an American? What are the results? Nothing. Very bad
- nothing good.
CBS: There was a report recently that you had
talked about, or someone representing you had talked about some kind of deal
in which you and your family would leave the country if you were guaranteed
safe passage, if you were guaranteed that there would be no criminal
prosecution. You're aware of these reports?
President al-Assad: We had this guarantee from
the first day of the crisis.
CBS: Because of the way you acted?
President al-Assad: No, because of the agenda
that I talked about. Some of these agendas wanted me to quit, very simply,
so they said "we have all the guarantees if you want to leave, and all the
money and everything you want." Of course, you just ignore that.
CBS: So, you've been offered that opportunity?
President al-Assad: Yeah, but it's not about
me, again, this fight is not my fight, it's not the fight of the government;
it's the fight of the country, of the Syrian people. That's how we look at
it. It's not about me.
CBS: It's not about you?
President al-Assad: It's about every Syrian.
CBS: How will this war end? I referred to
this question earlier. What's the endgame?
President al-Assad: It's very simple; once the
Western countries stop supporting those terrorists and making pressure on
their puppet countries and client states like Saudi Arabia and Turkey and
others, you'll have no problem in Syria. It will be solved easily, because
those fighters, the Syrian part that you're talking about, lost its natural
incubators in the Syrian society - they don't have incubators anymore;
that's why they have incubators abroad. They need money from abroad, they
need moral support and political support from abroad. They don't have any
grassroots, any incubator. So, when you stop the smuggling, we don't have
problems.
CBS: Yeah, but at the same time, as I've said
before, you have support from abroad. There are those who say you will not
be able to survive without the support of Russia and Iran. Your government
would not be able to survive.
President al-Assad: No, it's not me, I don't
have support. Not me; all Syria. Every agreement is between every class
and every sector in Syria; government, people, trade, military, culture,
everything; it's like the cooperation between your country and any other
country in the world. It's the same cooperation. It's not about me; it's
not support for the crisis.
CBS: I mean about your government. You say
that the rebels only survive because they have support from Saudi Arabia and
Turkey and the United States, and Qatar perhaps, and I'm saying you only
survive because you have the support of Russia and Iran and Hezbollah.
External support can never substitute internal
support
President al-Assad: No, the external support
can never substitute internal support, it can never, for sure.
And the example that we have to look at very well is Egypt and Tunisia; they
have all the support from the West and from the Gulf and from most of the
countries of the world. When they don't have support within their country,
they couldn't continue more than - how many weeks? - three weeks. So, the
only reason we stand here for two years and a half is because we have
internal support, public support. So, any external support, if you want to
call it support, let's use this world, isŠ how to sayŠ it's going to be
additional, but it's not the base to depend on more than the Syrian support.
CBS: You and I talked about this before; we
remember Hama and your father, Hafez al-Assad. HeŠ ruthlesslyŠ set out to
eliminate the Muslim Brotherhood. Are you simply being your father's son
here?
President al-Assad: I don't know what you mean
by ruthlessly, I've never heard of soft war. Have you heard about soft
war? There's no soft war. War is war. Any war is ruthless. When you
fight terrorists, you fight them like any other war.
CBS: So, the lessons you have here are the
lessons you learned from your father and what he did in Hama, which, it is
said, influenced you greatly in terms of your understanding of what you have
to do.
President al-Assad: The question: what would
you do as an American if the terrorists are invading your country from
different areas and started killing tens of thousands of Americans?
CBS: You refer to them as terrorists, but in
fact it is a popular revolution, people believe, against you, that was part
of the Arab spring that influenced some of the other countries.
President al-Assad: Revolution should be
Syrian, cannot be revolution imported from abroad.
CBS: It didn't start from abroad; it started
here.
President al-Assad: These people that started
here, they support the government now against those rebels, that's what you
don't know. What you don't know as an American you don't know as a
reporter. That's why talking about what happened at the very beginning is
completely different from what is happening now - it's not the same.
There's very high dynamic, things are changing on daily basis. It's a
completely different image. Those people who wanted revolution, they are
cooperating with us.
CBS: I'm asking you again, is it in fact
you're being your father's son and you believe that the only way to drive
out people is to eliminate them the same way your father did?
President al-Assad: In being independent?
Yes. In fighting terrorists? Yes. In defending the Syrian people and the
country? Yes.
CBS: When I first interviewed you, there was
talk of Bashar al-al-AssadŠ he's the hope, he's the reform. That's not what
they're saying anymore.
President al-Assad: Who?
CBS: People who write about you, people who
talk about you, people who analyze Syria and your regime.
President al-Assad: Exactly, the hope for an
American is different from the hope of a Syrian. For me, I should be the
hope of the Syrian, not any other one, not American, neither French, nor
anyone in the world. I'm President to help the Syrian people. So, this
question should start from the hope of the Syrian people, and if there is
any change regarding that hope, we should ask the Syrian people, not anyone
else in the world.
CBS: But now they say - their words - a
butcher. Comparisons to the worst dictators that ever walked on the face of
the Earth, comparing you to them. Using weapons that go beyond warfare.
Everything they could say bad about a dictator, they're now saying about
you.
President al-Assad: First of all, when you
have a doctor who cut the leg to prevent the patient from the gangrene if
you have to, we don't call butcher; you call him a doctor, and thank you for
saving the lives. When you have terrorism, you have a war. When you have a
war, you always have innocent lives that could be the victim of any war, so,
we don't have to discuss what the image in the west before discussing the
image in Syria. That's the question.
CBS: It's not just the West. I mean it's the
East, and the Middle East, and, I mean, you know, the eyes of the world have
been on Syria. We have seen atrocities on both sides, but on your side as
well. They have seen brutality by a dictator that they say put you in a
category with the worst.
President al-Assad: So we have to allow the
terrorists to come and kill the Syrians and destroy the country much, much
more. This is where you can be a good President? That's what you imply.
CBS: But you can't allow the idea that there's
opposition to your government from within Syria. That is not possible for
you to imagine.
President al-Assad: To have opposition? We
have it, and you can go and meet with them. We have some of them within the
government, we have some of them outside the government. They are
opposition. We have it.
CBS: But those are the people who have been
fighting against you.
President al-Assad: Opposition is different
from terrorism. Opposition is a political
movement. Opposition doesn't mean to take arms and kill people and destroy
everything. Do you call the people in Los Angeles in the nineties - do you
call them rebels or opposition? What did the British call the rebels less
than two years ago in London? Did they call them opposition or rebels? Why
should we call them opposition? They are rebels. They are not rebels even,
they are beheading. This opposition, opposing country or government, by
beheading? By barbecuing heads? By eating the hearts of your victim? Is
that opposition? What do you call the people who attacked the two towers on
the 11th of September? Opposition? Even if they're not Americans, I know
this, but some of them I think have nationality - I think one of them has
American nationality. Do you call him opposition or terrorist? Why should
you use a term in the United States and England and maybe other countries
and use another term in Syria? This is a double standard that we don't
accept.
CBS: I once asked you what you fear the most
and you said the end of Syria as a secular state. Is that end already here?
President al-Assad: According to what we've
been seeing recently in the area where the terrorists control, where they
ban people from going to schools, ban young men from shaving their beards,
and women have to be covered from head to toe, and let's say in brief they
live the Taliban style in Afghanistan, completely the same style.
With the time, yes we can be worried, because the secular state should
reflect secular society, and this secular society, with the time, if you
don't get rid of those terrorists and these extremists and the Wahabi style,
of course it will influence at least the new and the coming generations.
So, we don't say that we don't have it, we're still secular in Syria, but
with the time, this secularism will be eroded.
CBS: Mr. President, thank you for allowing us
to have this conversation about Syria and the war that is within as well as
the future of the country. Thank you.
President al-Assad: Thank you for coming to
Syria.
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Assad Forces Fear Syrian Rebel Rampage After U.S. Strike
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Posted:
06 Sep 2013
03:21 AM PDT
This article
first published
on 2 March 2007
on Democracy
Now! “We’re
going to take
out seven
countries,
starting with
Iraq, and then
Syria, Lebanon,
Libya, Somalia,
Sudan and,
finishing off,
Iran” —
This posting
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Posted:
06 Sep 2013
03:07 AM PDT
One of America's
most respected
political
leaders, former
congressman and
presidential
candidate Dennis
Kucinich, says
the US is about
to become
“al-Qaeda's air
force.” Kucinich
points out that
the US-supported
rebels fighting
the Syrian
government are
led by al-Qaeda.
Even the New
York Times has
admitted that
the leading
anti-Assad group
is an al-Qaeda
affiliate called
the al-Nusra
front: “In
Syria’s largest
city, Aleppo,
rebels aligned
with Al Qaeda
control the
power plant, run
the bakeries and
head a court
that applies
Islamic law.”
|
Posted:
06 Sep 2013
02:46 AM PDT
Putin called
Kerry a liar.
And China has
warships
“observing”
close to Syria.
They smell blood
in the water.
Obama is weak
and they are
exploiting it. A
victor gives no
quarter. And the
pope wrote to
Putin,
reportedly
saying that
military action
would be a
futile pursuit
|
Posted:
06 Sep 2013
01:36 AM PDT
Washington
doesn't merely
lack the legal
authority for a
military
intervention in
Syria. It lacks
the moral
authority. We're
talking about a
government with
a history of
using chemical
weapons against
innocent people
far more
prolific and
deadly than the
mere accusations
Assad faces from
a trigger-happy
Western
military-industrial
complex, bent on
stifling further
investigation
before striking
|
Posted:
06 Sep 2013
01:25 AM PDT
The foremost
mission of
journalism is to
be the de facto
'watchdog' of
government
behavior and
actions.CNN and
other American
networks as well
as al-Jazeera
now have
betrayed and
perhaps
irreparably
destroyed that
raison d'être
around the world
|
Posted:
06 Sep 2013
01:18 AM PDT
A large
anti-submarine
ship named
“Admiral
Panteleyev”
reportedly
arrived in the
east
Mediterranean
Sea to join the
Russian standing
naval force as
flagship. It
comes shortly
before the
scheduled
rotation of two
Russian landing
craft carriers
in the area. The
Russian Navy
destroyer left
the Far-Eastern
port city of
Vladivostok on
March 19 and
arrived in the
designated area
of the eastern
Mediterranean on
Wednesday,
according to
sources cited by
Interfax and RIA
Novosti.
|
Posted:
06 Sep 2013
01:13 AM PDT
In a time in
this great
country when 1
in 6 families
are unsure where
their next meal
is coming from,
the Department
of Homeland
Security goes
whole hog in the
trough of the
public coffers
|
Posted:
06 Sep 2013
01:00 AM PDT
How many bad
policemen does
it take to say
that we are
living in a
police state? Of
all the abuses
of power by the
newly
federalized
police across
America, there
is one law
enforcement
agency that is
moving to the
head of the
class with
regard to
invoking police
state type of
tactics against
innocent
American
citizens, and
that agency
would be the
United States
Park Police.
However, the
United States
Park Police is a
misnomer because
the title of
this agency
should be The
United Nations
Park Police. The
unconstitutional
and brutal
practices of
this Gestapo
organization
provides
Americans with a
glimpse of what
it will be like
to live under
the New World
Order under its
Agenda 21
policies
|
Posted:
06 Sep 2013
12:49 AM PDT
Does the
American public
have the
strength of
character to
face the fact
that the US
government
stands before
the entire world
revealed as a
collection of
war criminals
who lie every
time that they
open their
mouth? Will
Congress and the
American public
buy the White
House lie that
they must
support war
criminals and
liars or
“America will
lose face”
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Posted:
06 Sep 2013
12:40 AM PDT
"The
indiscriminate
slaughter of
civilians, the
killing of women
and children and
innocent
bystanders by
chemical weapons
is a moral
obscenity. By
any standard, it
is inexcusable"
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Posted:
06 Sep 2013
12:28 AM PDT
Russian
President
Vladimir Putin
has criticized
senior US
officials
including
Secretary of
State John Kerry
in particular
for “openly
lying” about the
status of armed
opposition in
Syria
|
Posted:
06 Sep 2013
12:17 AM PDT
Just hours prior
to President
Obama’s arrival
at the G20
Summit, Russian
President Putin
criticized US
officials,
including
Secretary of
State John Kerry
in particular.
After tuning in
to the
Congressional
debates, Putin
heard Kerry tell
a congressman
al-Qaeda forces
no longer make
up the majority
of the
opposition in
Syria. Putin
argues the main
combat unit in
Syria is
al-Nusra, a main
unit of
al-Qaeda, and
the US knows it
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Posted:
06 Sep 2013
12:12 AM PDT
I had a dream
around two weeks
ago. I saw four
horses milling
around together,
rearing,
snorting, and
charging. The
most distinct
one was the
white one, with
the red, black,
and pale ones in
the background.
Then I saw a
tank come
straight at me,
and then I woke
up. When I saw
the horses I
thought
Apocalypse. When
I saw the tank,
I didn’t know
what to think. I
do now. I
believe that
this dream
foretold what is
to come. The
four horses are
here, they are
active right
now, and the war
machine is
rolling that
will take out a
good portion of
the earth. No, I
was not afraid
in my dream, and
I am not afraid
now
|
Posted:
06 Sep 2013
12:03 AM PDT
If a tsunami
were to hit
California it
would have
devastating
effects,
according to a
new report from
the US
Geological
Survey. Were a
major earthquake
to strike off
the coast of the
Golden State,
the ensuing
tsunami would
close major
seaports, flood
at least one
major airport
and lead to mass
evacuations,
according to the
USGS.
|
UPDATE 9-4-13
Senate Committee Votes Yes On Syria Resolution To Bomb
Assad
WASHINGTON -- Overcoming reservations from the left,
the right and the American public, a Senate committee Wednesday passed a
resolution to bomb Syria
in retaliation for President Bashar Assad's alleged use of chemical weapons.
In a delayed markup of a resolution to authorize the
use of military force, the Senate Foreign Relations Committee voted 10 to 7,
with one present, to let President Barack Obama mount a bombing campaign aimed
at the Syrian regime's weapons of mass destruction for up to 90 days, albeit
within a
more limited scope than
Obama had requested. Specifically, the committee included language that would
prohibit the use of U.S. troops on the ground "for the purpose of combat
operations."
Committee Chairman Robert Menendez (D-N.J.), ranking member
Sen. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.) and Sens. Jeanne Shaheen (D-N.H.), Dick Durbin
(D-Ill.), Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.), Ben Cardin (D-Md.), Chris Coons (D-Del.),
John McCain (R-Ariz.), Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) and Tim Kaine (D-Va.) voted for the
resolution.
Sens. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), John Barrasso (R-Wyo.), James Risch
(R-Idaho), Chris Murphy (D-Conn.), Tom Udall (D-N.M.), Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), and
Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) voted against the authorization, while Sen. Ed Markey
(D-Mass.) voted present.
The committee also voted 14-5 to table an amendment
from Paul that would clarify the president's constitutional authority
to use military force in
the event that Congress voted against intervention in Syria. Paul's amendment
would include language in the resolution to specify that if the authorization
failed to pass Congress, the president "would be in violation of the
Constitution" if he ordered a military strike against the Syrian government
anyway.
In arguing for his amendment, Paul said that his fellow
lawmakers should dispense with the Obama administration's claim that such a
action would be short of war. "This will indeed be a war," he said.
Rubio, Flake, McCain and Barrasso all voted to table Paul's
amendment.
McCain, long a proponent of intervention in Syria's two-year
civil war, demanded -- and won -- an amendment that said the U.S. aim was to
change the momentum in the war in favor of the rebels.
The
Senate resolution crafted
by Menendez and Corker specifies that it is directed at weapons of mass
destruction, seeking to deter their further use and to "degrade" Syria's ability
to use them. McCain told reporters before the vote that he believed "in the
strongest terms" that a provision must be included that would help create
conditions for Assad's departure. The senator thus moved closer to calling for
the sort of drive to affect regime change that some libertarians and liberals
oppose.
"When Bashar Assad remains in an advantageous position, he
will never leave Syria. He has to know that he is losing," McCain said. "There
is no policy without that, and there is no strategy without that, except for
significant attacking of facilities that deliver chemical weapons against the
Free Syrian Army."
McCain added that both Obama and Secretary of State John
Kerry have said they favor changing the momentum on the ground in Syria. "So I
don't know why they should be resistant to that being a sense of purpose
embodied in the legislation," he said.
Udall offered an amendment that would only authorize naval
and air base military strikes outside Syrian territory or airspace "as the
president determines to be necessary and appropriate." He said the measure would
ensure that the U.S. role remained limited and not leave room for an open-ended
"bombing campaign."
The amendment failed 17-1, as other members of the committee
argued it would "tie the president's hands" by placing too many restrictions on
his ability to act effectively.
"This is micromanagement that frankly is not only
unnecessary, but we really can't tell the president of the United States what
tactics he has to employ," McCain said.
The Senate resolution that passed the committee calls for the
White House to present a plan within 30 days of the resolution's enactment. It
gives Obama 60 days to act, with the option of extending the action for another
30 days. Congress can disapprove of the extension.
Before senators worked out their compromises, they attended a
classified briefing Wednesday morning with Kerry and Secretary of Defense Chuck
Hagel that ended up running nearly four hours.
Also speaking before the vote, Corker had said there was
"some degree of flexibility" for additions to the draft resolution, though he
declined to offer specifics on which amendments would be considered. The
committee's top Republican conceded that it was tough to bring lawmakers
together in support of military action that was both narrow and broad enough to
address everyone's concerns, but added that it was "not a fair assessment" to
suggest the committee didn't have the votes to continue.
Paul told reporters that he didn't see a "clear-cut or
compelling American interest" to justify taking action in Syria -- though during
the markup hearing, he denied
reports that he was going to filibuster
the resolution on the Senate floor.
"I see a horrible tragedy, but I don't see that our
involvement will lessen the tragedy," Paul, one of the most vocal opponents of
Syria intervention, said after the classified briefing.
He nonetheless acknowledged that the resolution would likely
be approved by the full Senate. "The only chance of stopping what I consider to
be bad policy will be in the House," Paul said.
The House Foreign Affairs Committee held its own
hearing with Kerry and Hagel on Wednesday. The fate of any resolution in the
lower chamber appeared
less certain than in the
Senate.
UPDATE:
The Senate Foreign Relations Committee has released the revised text of the
resolution to authorize military force in Syria:
Syria Resolution Approved By Senate Foreign Relations
Committee
UPDATE: 9-4-13 - RUSSIAN STANCE ON SYRIA ATTACKS:
Putin Talks Syria, 'Doesn't Exclude' Supporting UN
Resolution Despite Warnings
UPDATE 9-3-13 - BEFORE YOU GET ALL HOT AND BOTHERED BY SYRIA INCLUDING SODIUM
FLUORIDE IN THE
CHEMICAL WEAPONS - CHECK OUT WHAT THE UNITED STATES IS DOING TO YOUR CHILDREN :
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Nov 8, 2011 ... As we age, the pineal gland
begins to calcify due to the harmful effects of artificial substances
such as fluoride chemicals found in public water ...
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www.greatdreams.com/soybeans.htm
Soy formulas for infants can contain other
neurotoxins: aluminum, cadmium, and fluoride. Studies found that
aluminum concentrations in soy-based formulas ...
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It was also designed to test mind-control
machinations; to test the use of fluoride which deadens brain
activity and slows resistance to authority; to experiment ...
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Stay away from toothpaste that has fluoride
in it or you will kill your brain over time. 7. Extra eye glasses. 8.
For a camp kitchen you need: camp stove with good ...
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... (Few people realize that municipal water
fluoridation was used by the Nazis to numb people's reasoning.)
On behalf of "globalization/colonialization," Holdren ...
UPDATE: 9-2-13
Syria's Assad: Western Strike Would Trigger Regional War
PARIS — France released an intelligence report on Monday
alleging chemical weapons use by Syria's regime that dovetailed with similar
U.S. claims, as President Bashar Assad warned that any military strike against
his country would spark an uncontrollable regional war and spread "chaos and
extremism."
The verbal crossfire, including a rejection of the Western
allegations by longtime Syrian ally Russia, was part of frenzied efforts on both
sides to court international public opinion after President Barack Obama said he
would seek authorization from Congress before launching any military action
against Assad's regime.
In an interview with French newspaper Le Figaro, Assad was
quoted as saying that Syria has challenged the U.S. and France to provide proof
to support their allegations, but that their leaders "have been incapable of
doing that, including before their own peoples."
"If the Americans, the French or the British had a shred of
proof, they would have shown it beginning on the first day," he said, deriding
Obama as "weak" and having buckled to U.S. domestic political pressure.
"We believe that a strong man is one who prevents war,
not one who inflames it," Assad said.
French President Francois Hollande and Obama have been the
two world leaders most vocally calling for action against Assad's regime,
accusing it of carrying out a deadly chemical attack against rebel-held suburbs
of Damascus on Aug. 21.
The U.S. said it has proof that the Assad regime is behind
attacks that Washington claims killed at least 1,429 people, including more than
400 children. Those numbers are significantly higher than the death toll of 355
provided by the aid group Doctors Without Borders.
It has marked an intolerable escalation in a two-year civil
war in Syria that has left some 100,000 people dead.
The Syrian government denies the allegations, and blames
opposition fighters. In the Figaro interview, Assad questioned whether an attack
took place at all and refused to say whether his forces have chemical weapons,
as is widely believed.
If the U.S. and France strike, "Everyone will lose
control of the situation ... Chaos and extremism will spread. The risk of a
regional war exists," he added.
To back up its case, the French government published a
nine-page intelligence synopsis Monday that concluded Assad's regime had
launched an attack on Aug. 21 involving a "massive use of chemical agents," and
could carry out similar strikes in the future.
In all, though, the French report provided little new
concrete evidence beyond what U.S. officials provided over the weekend in
Washington. Along with it, the French Defense Ministry posted on its Web site
six clips of amateur video showing victims, some of which has already been
widely available online and in the international media.
In the Figaro interview, Assad said "all the accusations are
based on allegations of the terrorists and on arbitrary videos posted on the
Internet."
The French report made no specific reference to the agencies
involved or how the intelligence was collected about the attack, aside from
referring to videos of the injured or killed, doctors' accounts, and
"independent evaluations" such as one from Paris-based humanitarian aid group
Doctors Without Borders three days after the attack.
A French government official, speaking on condition of
anonymity because he wasn't authorized to speak about the matter because of its
sensitivity, said the analysis was written by the spy agency DGSE and the
military intelligence unit, DRM, and was based on satellite imagery, video
images, and on-the-ground sources – plus samples collected from the alleged
chemical attacks in April.
The assessment said it was "very unlikely" that Syria's
opposition had falsified images of suffering children that turned up online. It
also said intelligence indicated the opposition "does not have the means to
conduct such a large attack with chemical agents."
Around the time of the attack, Assad's regime feared a
possible opposition strike on Damascus: "Our evaluation is that the regime was
looking to loosen the vice and secure the strategic sites for the control of the
capital," the report said.
The synopsis also said French intelligence services had
collected urine, blood, soil and munitions samples from two attacks in April –
in Saraqeb and Jobar – that confirmed the use of sarin gas.
France is "determined to take action against the use of
chemical weapons by the regime of Bashar Assad, and to dissuade it from doing so
again," Prime Minister Jean-Marc Ayrault said after hosting lawmakers to discuss
the intelligence on Syria. "This act cannot go without a response."
France won't act alone and Hollande was "continuing his work
of persuasion to bring together a coalition," Ayrault said. French parliament
will debate the Syria issue Wednesday, but no vote is scheduled. The French
constitution doesn't require such a vote for Hollande, though he could decide to
call for one.
Russia, which along with Iran has been a staunch supporter of
Assad through the conflict, brushed aside Western evidence of an alleged Syrian
regime role.
"What our American, British and French partners showed us in
the past and have showed just recently is absolutely unconvincing," Russian
Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said Monday before the French report was
released. "And when you ask for more detailed proof they say all of this is
classified, so we cannot show this to you."
"There was nothing specific there, no geographic coordinates,
no names, no proof that the tests were carried out by the professionals," he
said, without identifying which tests.
Russian President Vladimir Putin proposed to send a
delegation of Russian lawmakers to the U.S. to discuss the situation in Syria
with members of Congress. Two top Russian legislators suggested that to Putin,
pointing to polls that have shown little support among Americans for armed
intervention in Syria.
On Sunday, U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry said Washington
received new physical evidence in the form of blood and hair samples that show
sarin gas was used in the attack. It wasn't immediately clear whether that
evidence had been shared with Russia.
U.N. chemical inspectors toured the stricken areas last week,
collecting biological and soil samples. A U.N. statement said the team "worked
around the clock" to finalize preparations of the samples, which were shipped
Monday afternoon from The Hague and would reach their designated laboratories
"within hours," the statement said.
Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon planned to brief the Security
Council's 10 non-permanent members on the Syria crisis Tuesday morning. Angela
Kane, high representative for disarmament affairs, planned a Tuesday briefing
for member states that requested the investigation of alleged chemical weapons
use in the Ghouta area outside Damascus on Aug. 21.
The Obama administration has failed to bring together a broad
international coalition in support of military action, having so far only
secured the support of France.
Britain's Parliament narrowly voted against the country's
participation in any military strike last week, despite appeals by Prime
Minister David Cameron. The Arab League has stopped short of endorsing a Western
strike against Syria.
In an emergency meeting Sunday, the 22-state League urged the
United Nations and the international community to take "deterrent" measures
under international law to stop the Syrian regime's crimes. Russia or China
would likely veto any U.N. Security Council resolution sanctioning a Western
strike against Syria.
___
Associated Press writers Albert Aji in Damascus, Syria,
Nataliya Vasilyeva in Moscow, Frances D'Emilio in Rome, Ryan Lucas and Karin
Laub in Beirut, and Jamey Keaten and Lori Hinnant in Paris contributed to this
report.
UPDATE 8-31-13 - AFTER PRESIDENT OBAMA TELLS THE WORLD WE ARE GOING TO
ATTACK SYRIA AFTER CONGRESS COMES BACK FROM VACATION ON SEPTEMBER 9TH AND THEY
HAVE A CHANCE TO DEBATE WHAT IS RIGHT TO DO!
AN EXTREMELY STUPID MOVE - ESPECIALLY TO TELL THE WORLD THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE OUR
VACATIONS BEFORE WE CARE ABOUT THEIR PEOPLE BEING KILLED.
Syrian Rebels Planning Attacks To Exploit U.S. Strike
UPDATE 8-27-13 U.S. TO ATTACK SYRIA NEXT
update 8-30-13 GREAT BRITAIN VOTES TO NOT HELP THE U.S.
THE U.S. SENDS IN THE 5TH NAVAL COMMAND INTO THE MEDITERRANIAN
SYRIA CHEMICAL WEAPON INSPECTORS SCHEDULED TO LEAVE DAMASCUS AT 7 A.M.,
RESCHEDULED TO LEAVE AT 4 A.M.
ITS A SUPER DANGEROUS TRIP TO THE LEBANON BORDER.
U.S. willing to act alone on Syria
attack
As British and other allies' support for military action in Syria crumbles,
the White House says 'core interests' are at stake.
With British support now pulled,
President Obama may decide to act alone in a military response to the use of
chemical weapons in Syria.
By Paul Richter, Christi Parsons and
Henry ChuAugust 29, 2013,
6:31 p.m.
WASHINGTON —
The White House
signaled that the United States would act alone in Syria if necessary to
protect its national security interests, as a Western coalition that just
days ago appeared determined to launch a joint military action split wide
open.
President
Obama appeared
increasingly isolated after British
Prime Minister David Cameron
lost a vote Thursday in the House of Commons on endorsing military
action. It was a stunning defeat for a government that days ago called
for punishing Syrian President
Bashar Assad's
forces for alleged use of chemical weapons against rebel-held
neighborhoods last week.
Britain "will not be involved" in any military
strikes on Syria, Defense Secretary Philip Hammond said after the vote.
However, he added, "I don't expect that the lack of British
participation will stop any action."
Obama administration officials made their case for armed
intervention in a conference call with congressional leaders
Thursday night.
"As we've said, President Obama's decision-making will be guided
by what is in the best interests of the United States," said Caitlin
Hayden, spokeswoman for the National Security Council. "He believes
that there are core interests at stake for the United States and
that countries who violate international norms regarding chemical
weapons need to be held accountable."
As the
Pentagon moved a fifth destroyer armed with cruise missiles into
the eastern Mediterranean for possible action against Syria, other
major allies also appeared to pull back.
French President
Francois Hollande,
whose government was the first Western advocate for a military
response, and German Chancellor
Angela Merkel,
who also had offered support, called for delaying any military
operation until the United Nations Security Council can review
evidence collected by chemical weapons experts now in Syria.
The 20-member team is scheduled to leave
Damascus, the Syrian capital, by Saturday, but its final report may
be days or weeks away. The team will try to determine whether sarin
nerve gas or other toxic chemical agents were used, but not who used
them.
In a TV interview Wednesday, Obama said the
American security interest in Syria included deterring further use
of chemical weapons, stopping terrorists from obtaining such
weapons, and protecting nearby allies such as Israel and Turkey as
well as
U.S. military
bases in the region.
Administration officials said Obama had no
interest in getting bogged down at the U.N., especially since Russia
almost certainly would block any resolution condemning Syria, a
close ally. China also would be likely to object.
"We will make our own decisions, with our
own timelines," said Marie Harf, a
State Department
spokeswoman. She said the administration had not decided what course
it would take.
Josh Earnest, a deputy White House spokesman,
said Obama was interested in engaging with the international
community as he considered whether to order punitive missile
strikes. "We want to continue to keep our allies in the loop as the
president considers a decision about a response," he said.
The fracturing of the coalition was driven in
part by growing questions about the intelligence the White House has
cited but has yet to make public. At the heart of the objections are
worries about a repeat of the 2003 invasion of Iraq, when the United
States talked allies into joining a foreign intervention based on
faulty intelligence.
"It didn't take long for the ghosts of Iraq to
reappear," said Joel Rubin, a former State Department official now
with the Ploughshares Fund, an arms control advocacy group in
Washington. "It looks now like they're really bogging everything
down."
Harf denied that the Obama administration was
hyping the intelligence. She would not discuss the evidence, but
rejected the Iraq analogy.
"In Iraq, the U.S. was trying to prove the
existence of weapons of mass destruction," she said. "In Syria, we
know that chemical weapons not only exist but … that they were used
on Aug. 21. So that's not in question. That's undeniable."
Western intelligence agencies appear to have
compiled only a circumstantial case — not proof — that Assad or his
commanders authorized use of poison gas.
In London, the Joint Intelligence Committee
released a letter early Thursday concluding that it was "highly
likely" that Assad's government was responsible, citing "a limited
but growing body of intelligence."
U.S. intelligence is similarly guarded.
There is no proof that Assad — rather than a lower-level or rogue
commander — was directly involved, or that the attack wasn't a
cynical attempt by opposition forces to draw the West into Syria's
civil war,
now in its third year.
The U.S. government does not know whether
Assad personally approved the attacks or what he was told about
them, officials said. After reviewing the intelligence, Sen.
Dianne Feinstein
(D-Calif.), who heads the
Senate Intelligence Committee,
said the evidence "points to" Assad's involvement. She stopped well
short of calling it definitive.
Members of
Congress from
both parties, who are on a monthlong recess that ends Sept. 9, also
stepped up their calls for the White House to consult them more
fully and perhaps bring the issue to a vote.
Obama spoke by phone to Sen.
Mitch McConnell
(R-Ky.), the minority leader, and House Speaker
John A. Boehner
(R-Ohio).
Boehner urged the president to provide
Congress and the public with a "legal justification for any
military strike, the policy and precedent such a response would
set, and the objectives and strategy for any potential action,"
said Brendan Buck, Boehner's spokesman.
Sen.
Robert Menendez
(D-N.J.), chairman of the
Senate Foreign Relations Committee,
offered strong backing for Obama after the intelligence
briefing.
"Tonight's briefing reaffirmed for me that a
decisive and consequential U.S. response is justified and
warranted to protect Syrians, as well as to send a global
message that chemical weapons attacks in violation of
international law will not stand," he said.
"My worry is that cruise missile
strikes and arming the Syrian rebels are going to make the
situation worse, not better," Sen.
Chris Murphy
(D-Conn.) said in a tweet.
The White House would face an uphill battle
winning congressional approval for military action if
conservative Republicans and liberal Democrats joined in
opposition. Already more than 160 House members have signed
letters circulated by Republicans and Democrats seeking a vote.
"My guess is a clear majority of the
House is of that opinion," Rep.
Zoe Lofgren
(D-San Jose) said on CNBC.
paul.richter@latimes.com
christi.parsons@latimes.com
henry.chu@latimes.com
Richter and Parsons reported from Washington
and Chu from London. Times staff writers Ken Dilanian, Shashank
Bengali, David S. Cloud, Michael A. Memoli, Lisa Mascaro and
Kathleen Hennessey in Washington contributed to this report.
White House: Syria Chemical Attack Requires Response
WHITEHOUSE SYMBOLISM?
WASHINGTON -- The White House is making a legal argument for undertaking a
military response to the use of chemical weapons against civilians in Syria, but
says any action taken against the Syrian regime is not intended to depose Syrian
President Bashar Assad.
White House spokesman Jay Carney said the United States and 188 other nations
are signatories to a chemical weapons convention opposing the use of such
weapons. He says those countries have a stake in ensuring that international
norms must be respected. Carney says that there must be a response to a clear
violation of those norms.
But Carney says, quote, "The options we are considering are not about regime
change."
He says a change in Syria's leadership must occur through political
negotiations.
War? Defense Sec. Hagel Says U.S. Forces in Position and Ready to Strike Syria
BANDER SERI BEGAWAN, Brunei (AP) — U.S. forces are now ready to act on any order
by President Barack Obama to strike Syria, U.S. Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel
said Tuesday.
The U.S. Navy has four destroyers in the
eastern Mediterranean Sea positioned within range of targets inside Syria, as
well as U.S. warplanes in the region, Hagel said in an interview with BBC
television during his visit to the southeast Asian nation of Brunei.
Hagel also predicted that U.S. intelligence
agencies would soon conclude that last week’s deadly attack on civilians in a
Damascus suburb was a chemical attack by Bashar Assad’s government.
“I think it’s pretty clear that chemical
weapons were used against people in Syria,” he said. “I think the intelligence
will conclude that it wasn’t the (Syria) rebels who used it, and there’ll
probably be pretty good intelligence to show is that the Syria government was
responsible – but we’ll allow the time to come together to provide that
information.”
Obama asked the Pentagon to give him “all
options for all contingencies,” Hagel said, and “we have done that.”
Joe Biden: No Doubt Assad
Regime Used Chemical Weapons In Syria
HOUSTON -- Vice President Joe Biden says there is no doubt that Syrian
President Bashar Assad's (bah-SHAR' AH'-sahd) government is responsible for the
heinous use of chemical weapons.
Biden's comments Tuesday make him the highest-ranking U.S. official to say
the Syrian regime is the culprit in a large-scale chemical weapons attack on
Aug. 21.
Biden says the Syrian government is the only actor in the 2-year civil war
that possesses and can deliver chemical weapons. He says Assad has blocked U.N.
investigators from the site and has been bombing it for days.
The White House says President Barack Obama hasn't settled on how to respond
to the attack. The Pentagon says U.S. military forces are ready to strike Syria
if Obama gives the order.
Biden spoke at the American Legion's national convention.
“We are prepared. We have moved assets in place
to be able to fulfill and comply with whatever option the president wishes to
take,” Hagel said.
PREVIOUS ISSUE:
5-1-13
Cassie: Your dream about the cruise ship was awful and way too real.
I'm using a MAC computer I'm not used to but I just have to tell you that your
dream with the way people were acting tells me that chemicals were used.
Recently, we've been told that Syria has been using chemicals to kill dissidents
and the U.S said that chemical weapons being used would cause us to go to war
with them.
That said, I just came out of meditation where I saw these words.
MARY HAMILTON WWIII
I never heard of Mary Hamilton, so I looked her up. She married Albert Pike, and
in 1871 Albert Pike had a vision of WWIII.
This was posted on both the lds.com website, and the freemasons.com website, and
many, many others so I'm not making this up.
That tells me that your dream was prophetic. WWIII is coming soon. And chemicals
will be used.
Dee
On Apr 30, 2013, at 9:14 PM, Linda P wrote:
> I came home from work Tuesday night and ate a lite dinner and must have fallen
asleep before 6:15 to 6:30pm because I woke up at 11pm...changed clothes to pj's
and went to bed and slept so long that I didn't wake up until 6:30am. I had so
many dreams but remember so little of them except for this one. I dreamed I was
in a casino-like atmosphere where it started out like a festive environment. It
was like a huge hotel resort...but with shows and casinos. Something happened
that was catastrophic...people started mingling into everyones room. Our rooms
we had reserved were invaded by many people and my ex was with me and our
children and we decided to look for someone so we left the room and walked all
over this place looking. I noticed something was in the air that caused our skin
to burn and it felt sticky and people were crowding into the showers. I noticed
the showers all were large square rooms...with beige tiles and the tiles were
coated in hair...like body hair and people's hair as if it were falling out. I
noticed the people were acting euphoric then panicky....very strange. We finally
found a room that was in poor repair and we stayed there. The euphoric people
looked like they were dressed in Indian clothes. I was looking for a bath... the
baths were very large like stone swimming pools and there were two in this suite
of rooms. I noticed there were not many windows and then it dawned on me we were
on a very large cruise ship. I noticed men were showering together...all of the
people were wanting showers. I went to a female designated shower and waited
forever and when I finally got my turn the shower was disgustingly dirty and
there was no soap or shampoo...but somehow I found some and used it quickly and
got out.
> Those euphoric people were having sex with each other and I went to look for
my ex and my kids and the kids were off socializing and my ex was sitting on the
floor on blankets with two women...they were dressed in Indian clothing like
from India. He was pulling me towards him asking me to join him having sex with
these two women. I didn't want to...and I noticed I was not feeling the euphoria
of the crowd...but I encouraged him to go ahead and I would stay nearbye because
I wanted him to be happy. I started looking around noticing more details and it
was a cruise ship...that something really terrible had hit. There was a huge
fear of the water but yet the air burned our skins so we needed fresh water to
wash off the toxin....and then the people would go from euphoria to panic...
>
> I am also remembering people who were not quite human, with misshapen faces
but they all looked the same. In another dream I saw my old friend who has
passed away. She was telling me in a very serious tone of something coming that
would be a disaster and would take people by shock...like a very bad storm...but
it was planned. She hugged me then left to tell others of this.
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Jul 23, 2010... that Albert Pike
wrote to Giuseppe Mazzini in 1871 regarding a conspiracy
...Albert Pike (historical Masonic figure) is a 33rd degree,
Freemason Occultist ... Later, after marrying Mary Ann
Hamilton, he purchased part of the ...
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The British Library, however had the following to
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Albert Pike (December 29, 1809–April 2, 1891) was an
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purchased part of the newspaper with the .... of Freemasonry in 1871,
of which there were several subsequent editions.
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ThreeWorldWars is a disinfo site and not to be
trusted (IMHO). Before y'all start throwing rocks at me, hear me out,
pleaase: As LDS we are all ...
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Apr 12, 2013 ... THE CONTENTS WILL BE FROM
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Pike), and after reading a book from a ... that Albert
Pike, the Grand Master of Free Masonry, had a vision in 1871
about three ...
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U.S.A. : David and Jeff discuss Albert Pike's
extraordinary letter of 1871 - whether ..... (Jun 16 2009)
- Did Abert Pike Know About WWIII ? ... (LDS
Church) holds no position for or against the compatibility of Masonry
with LDS Church doctrine.
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Dec 10, 2012... before 1871. WWIII
is also planned out in conceptional form, by Albert Pike.
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Volg 's werelds creatiefste Tumblrs.
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then to Troup, ... Died before 1871. ..... During
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In 1871 Albert Pike envisioned three World
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5-8-13 - Again I was working on my computer, using geometry - making rows of
what looked like tents from WWII with sagging tops - like bent horizontal
rectangles.
Apparently, I was attempting to prevent WWIII using sacred geometry.
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5-10-13 - NAP DREAM - I was in a very large house with some other people.
My Mother called me on the telephone to tell me to turn on the TV quick. I
ran across the living room and turned on the TV, then I ran back to where the
other people were to take them to the TV. I was walking arm in arm with a
guy who was on my right. I was hanging onto his left arm and he stood at
least 3 feet taller than I was watched the TV screen and we walked and walked
and never seemed to get any closer to it, and we were watching Syria getting
bombed to smithereens.
The problem was I kept thinking Baghdad over and over - Remember what we did
at Baghdad? Shock and awe!!!
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Just as Syria's government is being accused of mass massacres,
the war-torn country was hit with an airstrike ordered by a neighbor
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu
BEIRUT — With a second airstrike against Syria in four months,
Israel enforced its own red line of not allowing game-changing
weapons to reach Lebanon's Hezbollah, a heavily armed foe of the
Jewish state and an ally of President Bashar Assad's regime, Israeli
officials said Saturday.
But the strike, which one official said targeted a shipment of
advanced surface-to-surface missiles, also raised new concerns that
the region's most powerful military could be dragged into Syria's
civil war and spark a wider conflagration.
Fighting has repeatedly spilled across Syria's borders into
Turkey, Lebanon, Iraq, Jordan and the Israeli-annexed Golan Heights
during more than two years of conflict, while more than 1 million
Syrians have sought refuge in neighboring countries.
The airstrike, which was carried out early Friday and was
confirmed by U.S. officials, comes as Washington considers how to
respond to indications that the Syrian regime may have used chemical
weapons in its civil war. President Barack Obama has described the
use of such weapons as a "red line," and the administration is
weighing its options – including possible military action.
Israel has said it wants to stay out of the brutal Syria war, but
could inadvertently be drawn in as it tries to bolster its
deterrence and prevent sophisticated weapons from flowing from Syria
to Hezbollah or other extremist groups.
Israel and Hezbollah fought a monthlong war in mid-2006 that
ended in a stalemate.
Israel believes Hezbollah has restocked its arsenal with tens of
thousands of rockets and missiles, and Prime Minister Benjamin
Netanyahu has repeatedly stated the Jewish state would be prepared
to take military action to prevent the Islamic militant group from
obtaining new weapons that could upset the balance of power.
It is especially concerned that Hezbollah will take advantage of
the chaos in neighboring Syria and try to smuggle advanced weapons
into Lebanon. These include anti-aircraft missiles, which could
hamper Israel's ability to operate in Lebanese skies, and advanced
Yakhont missiles that are used to attack naval ships from the coast.
While Israeli officials on Saturday portrayed the latest
airstrike as the continuation of Israel's deterrence policy, more
Israeli attacks could quickly lead to an escalation, leaving open
the possibility of retaliation by Hezbollah or even the Assad regime
and Syria ally Iran.
In January, Israeli aircraft struck a shipment of what was
believed to be Russian-made SA-17 anti-aircraft missiles bound for
Hezbollah, according to U.S. officials. Israeli officials have
strongly hinted they carried out the airstrike, though there hasn't
been formal confirmation.
Neither Hezbollah nor Syria responded to that strike.
In a warning to Israel earlier this week, Hezbollah chief Hassan
Nasrallah said his militia "is ready and has its hand on the
trigger" in the event of an Israeli attack on any targets in
Lebanon.
Details about Friday's strike remained sketchy.
The U.S. officials said the airstrike apparently hit a warehouse,
but gave no other details.
Israeli officials did not say where in Syria the Israeli aircraft
struck or whether they fired from Lebanese, Syrian or Israeli
airspace.
Israel possesses bombs that can travel a long distance before
striking their target. The use of such weapons could allow Israel to
carry out the attack without entering Syrian skies, which would risk
coming under fire from the regime's advanced, Russian-made
anti-aircraft defenses.
The Israeli and U.S. officials spoke anonymously because they had
not been given permission to speak publicly about the matter.
Obama said Saturday it was up to Israel to confirm or deny any
strikes, but that the U.S. coordinates very closely with Israel.
"The Israelis, justifiably, have to guard against the transfer of
advanced weaponry to terrorist organizations like Hezbollah," Obama
told the Spanish-language TV station Telemundo.
The Syrian government said it had no information on an Israeli
attack, while Hezbollah and the Israeli military spokesman's office
declined comment.
Amos Gilad, an Israeli defense official, would not confirm or
deny the airstrike, but played down cross-border tensions.
Hezbollah has not obtained any of Syria's large chemical weapons
arsenal and is not interested in such weapons, Gilad said. Instead,
the militia is "enthusiastic about other weapons systems and rockets
that reach here (Israel)," he said Saturday in a speech in southern
Israel.
Assad "is not provoking Israel and the incidents along the border
(between Syria and the Israeli-controlled Golan) are coincidental,"
Gilad said.
After Hezbollah's military infrastructure was badly hit during
the 2006 war, the group was rearmed by Iran and Syria – with Tehran
sending the weapons and Damascus providing the overland supply route
to Lebanon.
"This is a very sophisticated network of Iranian arms, Syrian
collection, storage, distribution and transportation to Hezbollah,"
said Salman Shaikh, director of The Brookings Doha Center and in
2007 involved in U.N. weapons monitoring in Lebanon.
Shaikh said Israel had detailed knowledge of weapons shipments to
Hezbollah at the time and most likely has good intelligence now.
"The Israelis are watching like hawks to see what happens to these
weapons," he said.
With Israel apparently enforcing its red lines, much now depends
on the response from Hezbollah and Syria, analysts said.
Israeli officials have long feared that Assad may try to draw
Israel into the civil war in hopes of diverting attention and
perhaps rallying Arab support behind him.
But retaliation for Israeli airstrikes would come at a high
price, said Moshe Maoz, an Israeli expert on Syria.
"Bashar has his own problems and he knows that conflict with
Israel would cause the collapse of his regime," Maoz said. "He could
have done that long ago, but he knows he will fall if Israel gets
involved."
Hezbollah, which is fighting alongside Assad's troops, appears to
have linked its fate to the survival of the Syrian regime.
Nasrallah, the Hezbollah chief, said this week that Syria's allies
"will not allow Syria to fall into the hands of America or Israel."
On the other hand, Hezbollah could endanger its position as
Lebanon's main political and military force if it confronts Israel,
and it's not clear if the militia is willing to take that risk.
Hezbollah isn't Israel's only concern. Israeli officials believe
it is only a matter of time before Assad's government collapse, and
they fear that some of the Islamic extremist groups battling him
will turn their attention toward Israel once Assad is gone.
Reflecting Israel's anxiety, the Israeli military called up
several thousand reservists earlier this week for what it called a
"surprise" military exercise on its border with Lebanon.
Obama has said the use of chemical weapons would have "enormous
consequences," but has also said he needs more definitive proof
before making a decision about how to respond.
Obama said Friday that he didn't foresee a scenario in which the
U.S. would send troops to Syria. Instead, Defense Secretary Chuck
Hagel has said Washington is reviewing its opposition to arming the
opposition.
The U.S. so far has balked at sending weapons to the rebels,
fearing the arms could end up in the hands of al-Qaida-linked groups
or other extremists in the opposition ranks.
Secretary of State John Kerry, meanwhile, is heading to Moscow
next week to try to persuade Russian President Vladimir Putin to
support, or at least not veto, a fresh effort to impose U.N.
penalties on Syria if Assad doesn't begin political transition talks
with the opposition.
Russia, alongside China, has blocked U.S.-led efforts three times
at the United Nations to pressure Assad into stepping down.
In Syria, about 4,000 Sunni Muslims fled the coastal town of
Banias on Saturday, a day after reports circulated that dozens of
people, including children, had been killed by pro-government gunmen
in the area, activists said.
Also Saturday, Assad made his second public appearance in a week
in the capital Damascus. Syrian state TV said Assad, who rarely
appears in public, visited a Damascus campus, and footage showed him
being thronged by a large crowd. The report said Assad inaugurated a
statue dedicated to "martyrs" from Syrian universities who died in
the country's uprising and civil war.
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Federman reported from Jerusalem. Associated Press writers Ian
Deitch in Jerusalem, Bassem Mroue in Beirut, and Bradley S. Klapper
and Josh Lederman in Washington contributed reporting.
5-5-13
Israel strikes Syrian military research center, US official says
By Robert Windrem, Jim Miklaszewski and Andrea Mitchell, NBC News
Israeli jets bombed a military research facility north of Damascus early
Sunday, a senior official told NBC News -- the second Israeli attack on targets
in Syria in recent days.
Heavy explosions shook the city, and video shot by activists showed a
fireball rising into the sky after Sunday's strikes.
Reuters reported that a Western intelligence source said the operation hit
Iranian-supplied missiles that were en route to the Hezbollah militia in
Lebanon.
A rebel spokesman, who spoke from a “liberated area” held by the opposition
in Damascus, told NBC News there were huge explosions just before 2 a.m. Sunday
local time (7 p.m. Saturday ET) in the Qaysoun mountains on the edge of
Damascus.
“Around 10 locations were hit," the spokesman said. "It was difficult to tell
what was hit in the raid and what exploded afterwards. Some of the targets were
weapons and weapons depots.
"Secondary explosions continued for about four hours. They shook all of
Damascus. There was still smoke in the air as the sun came up.”
From its Damascus media office, the Free Syrian Army listed 9 apparent
targets, including the Syrian Revolutionary Guard, the 104th brigade
headquarters, a weapons depot in Qasyoun and a military research center at
Jamraya.
The FSA said power was cut in parts of Damascus at 1:48 am local time Sunday
(6:48 p.m. Saturday ET). A FSA spokesman
said the fires and explosions "made Damascus look like the day at night."
The White House said there would be no official comment on the latest attack,
but diplomatic sources and U.S. officials told NBC News that the administration
is fully supportive of the airstrikes.
On Friday, Israeli warplanes launched strikes against targets inside Syria,
U.S. officials told NBC News. It’s believed the primary target also was a
shipment of weapons headed for Hezbollah, they said. A senior U.S. official said
the airstrikes were believed to be related to delivery systems for chemical
weapons.
After that attack, an Israeli spokesman in Washington said that Israel would
not comment specifically on the reports but said that “Israel is determined to
prevent the transfer of chemical weapons or other game-changing weaponry by the
Syrian regime to terrorists, especially to Hezbollah in Lebanon.”
It wasn’t clear whether the Israelis alerted the U.S. before the attack.
White House officials referred all questions to the Israelis.
Rebel units were in disagreement about what type of weapons were in the
convoy, Reuters reported. A rebel from an information-gathering unit in Damascus
that calls itself "The Syrian Islamic Masts Intelligence" said the convoy
carried anti-aircraft missiles.
The rebel, who asked not to be named, added: "There were three strikes by
Israeli F-16 jets that damaged a convoy carrying anti-aircraft missiles heading
to the Shi'ite Lebanese party (Hezbollah) along the Damascus-Beirut military
road. One strike hit a site near the (Syrian) Fourth Armoured Division in
al-Saboura but we have been unable to determine what is in that location."
However, Qassim Saadedine, a commander and spokesman for the rebel Free
Syrian Army, told Reuters he did not think the weapons were anti-aircraft. "We
have nothing confirmed yet but we are assuming that it is some type of
long-range missile that would be capable of carrying chemical materials," he
said.
In the January attack,
Israeli fighter jets struck a convoy of sophisticated anti-aircraft missiles
believed on their way to Hezbollah.
Israeli Defense Minister Moshe Ya’alon publicly acknowledged the January
airstrike inside Syria in a joint press conference with Defense Secretary Chuck
Hagel in Tel Aviv on April 22. Ya’alon said any Syrian delivery of sophisticated
weapons to rogue elements like Hezbollah would be a “red line” for Israel and
“when they crossed this red line, we operated. We acted.”
MSNBC - TV
Syria is in the middle of a civil war pitting rebels against the regime of
President Bashir Assad. Tens of thousands have already died, and the possible
use of the nation’s stockpile of chemical weapons has been of grave concern to
the U.S. and other nations.
Last week, the
White House said there was evidence that Syria’s government may have used
chemical weapons against its own people. But President
Barack Obama has cautioned against rushing to action against Assad’s
government, saying that the U.S. required more evidence
before getting involved in the civil war there.
The U.S. has long believed that
Syria was stockpiling chemical weapons. Intelligence reports indicate that
it has sarin and the nerve agent tabun along with traditional chemicals like
mustard gas and hydrogen cyanide. A 2011 CIA report said Syria was also
developing the potent nerve agent VX, which could render a city uninhabitable
for days.
Syria has said that it hasn’t used and will not use chemical weapons.
On Tuesday, Hezbollah’s leader warned the rebels that his militia was ready
to intervene on Assad’s side in Syria’s civil war. There have been concerns that
Syrian SCUD missiles that might be capable of carrying chemical weapons could be
transferred to Hezbollah.
NBC News' Richard Engel, Kristen Welker and Stacey Klein and Reuters
contributed to this report.
Related video: Syrian
government used chemical weapons 4 times, rebels say
This story was originally published on
Sun May 5, 2013 10:33 AM EDT
AP/The Huffington Post | Posted: 09/19/2013 3:17 pm EDT
Secretary of State John Kerry gave a statement on Syria Thursday, pushing a U.N. report that confirmed the use of chemical weapons in the country.
"Despite the efforts of some to suggest otherwise, thanks to this week's long-awaited, U.N. report, the facts in Syria only grew clearer and the case only grew more compelling," Kerry said.
"The U.N. report confirms unequivocally that chemical weapons, including sarin, were used in Syria," Kerry continued.
Kerry's speech pushed back against Russian and Syrian claims that Syrian rebels used chemical weapons. Kerry said there's no evidence the Syrian opposition can carry out a chemical weapons attack.
"We know the Assad regime possesses sarin and there's not a shred of evidence, however, that the opposition does," Kerry said.
"So there you have it. Sarin was used. Sarin killed," Kerry said.
Kerry said the U.N. Security Council "must be prepared" to act.
"Time is short. Let's not spend it debating what we already know," Kerry said.
"The complete removal of Syria's chemical weapons is possible here through peaceful means," he continued.
Kerry's statement came after a meeting with Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi.
WASHINGTON — Secretary of State John Kerry says the U.N. General Assembly should move swiftly to approve a U.S.-Russia deal to eliminate Syria's chemical weapons, saying that there is no time to argue with those who are remain unconvinced that Syrian President Bashar Assad's government carried out a chemical attack last month.
Speaking Thursday at the State Department, Kerry didn't mention Russian President Vladimir Putin, but his remarks were a clear attempt to rebut Putin's statement that Russia has strong ground to believe that Syrian rebels – not Assad – were responsible for the attack.
Putin says the perpetrators relied on "primitive" technology using old Soviet-made ammunition no longer in the Syrian army's inventory.
Kerry says the U.S. believes a report by U.N. inspectors proves Assad conducted the attack.
This post has been updated with more from the AP. Luke Johnson contributed to this report.