Subj:*Blue* Unconditionality
Date: 7/13/2002
From: foreverblue@gmx.net
Richard asked:
I would be interested to know the opinion of Blue on the prophecies, like the following by Edgar Cayce reincarnate, David Wilcock, that claim there is other dimensional help, even oversight and control ,being taken by the light forces. As far as I am aware, Blue has steadfastly denied that we are getting this kind of help versus the dark forces. http://www.ascension2000.com/07.03.02.htm
regards Richard
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Blue never offers any predictions, prophecies or next week's lotto numbers .... they also stay clear of giving advice or telling what is the right thing or wrong thing to do ... for them there is no right or wrong ... they simply just tell it as it is ...to my dislike and disagreement they abide with what they term law of non-interference ......
For those that know me and have seen my past comments on this crappy law of non-interference know how I feel about it
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Where am I going with this, well I'm simply setting up the scene for Blue's response to the above question for I know it will be one I disagree with it .... but just want to add my point of view as opposed to Blue's
Picture a couple of bullies, beating up a school kid on his way home ... this school kid has no way to defend or over power these bullies ... and now a person sees this happening, simply does nothing .... allowing the bullies to beat up the defenseless school kid .... using the excuse ....law of non- interference ...
The above scenario can be applied to many things ....
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[R] Blue - is there any assistance or help been provided by the STO or the likes for us here on Earth against the forces of darkness ...?
[Blue] We will say there is intention from both STO and STS which you term or equate with light and darkness. We have stated before to you that there is no such thing as darkness being equated with bad .... those that go around telling you darkness is bad do not have any idea what they are talking about ...
[R] I don't think they mean it literally, it's just a term of expression, that bad things are dark ...
[Blue] Please understand, there is no bad or good where we reside, it simply is seen all as one .... a polarity perhaps, but neither is validated or invalidated against the other ...
[R] Can you please answer the question ..
[Blue] There is always beings, conciousness gestalts, forces, whatever word you wish to use, who provide assistance in many ways, whether physically or non-physically, in service to self or service to others ..... BUT ... please be aware that causing intentional interference to serve a purpose or provide an outcome that would have eventuated otherwise would it not have been for the interference in the first place goes against the flow ....
[R] But this could apply to anything, good things and bad things
[Blue] Yes, some it seems assume that their intentions are for the good therefore it validates or justifies the interference of the outcome ... this is no different than those who interfere to cause an outcome which is bad .... for both are equally valid ... for what one sees as bad, another may see as good ... so who is more valid ...
[R] I know you've explained multiple times this business of non-interference, but it seems that in order not to interfere, one cannot do nothing .... one might as well lock themselves up in a room and not talk or interact with anyone ...
[Blue] ... Now you are being silly about it .... we will make it simple .... lets say your friend asked you for some assistance to fix their broken mail box ... upon enquiring you find out that some local thugs have been smashing up mailboxes in the street ....now this angers you a little as you can not stand this kind of behaviour
What are your options;
a) you can assist your friend to repair the mailbox because they asked
b) you can say no, you do not wish to assist repair
c) you go further and decide to confront these thugs to put an end to this behaviour ..
a) and b) would be non-interference as your friend asked
c) would be interference!
Your friend did not ask you to stop the thugs but you decided to take the matter on your own hands due to your belief that you are doing a good thing, a service to the neighbourhood and further your actions could have further ramifications for yourself and/or your friend.
[R] So only if one asks for help and assistance, then one can interfere?
[Blue] You can if you wish, but this still does not justify interference
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[R] I think our definitions of interference is some how misconstrued ...
[Blue] we have already given you the meaning of interference in our converse now as we speak ... what is it you do not understand ... interference is when one manufactures an outcome for another in order to serve or fullfill their own requirements/agenda ...
[R] But what if the other person wishes the same outcome ? Then is this not in favour for both ...
[Blue] Mmm ... but don't you see, if the other person wishes the same outcome, then why do they not do it themselves ....
[R] Perhaps they are unable to ... thus why they ask for help ...
[Blue] This is in the flow, if your assistance is unconditional and you do not wish an outcome to fullfill your own needs, desires or belief systems ...
[R] So you are saying, it's ok to help/assist another, so as long as I am not doing it to help myself, for my own gains ..... why do I feel I am been set up for a catch 22 here ;o))
[Blue] You see this is the crux .... this is how those who wish to gain by misappropriation operate, be it on earth, your governments, leaders, corporations or beings from another dimension who may or may not be more technologically advanced or not ... an event is created/manufactured which ensures that the masses ask for an outcome to be resolved .... then they come in and offer a solution knowing full well, there was not a problem to begin with until they manufactured the undesired event ... and so they happily fullfill the resolution ..... everyone for the moment is happy ... the people feel the problem has been solved and those who manufactured the event are also happy for they have gained or fullfilled what they wanted to gain for their own requirements or needs ... it could be for greed, power or simply belief ...but you see the problem has not really been solved .... for in order to have gained, they would have needed to misappropriate another side who now would be seeking some kind of balance for they would feel they have been cheated upon .... and so begins your tit for tat, ping pong ball seeking to balance itself ... to borrow an expression .... it is like borrowing from Paul to pay Peter ... but Paul is still owed ... nothing has really been solved/resolved .... Even if one was to manufacture an outcome in the belief that it is for the good of everyone it still would be regarded as interference on many levels ... for by manufacturing an outcome you have unbalanced the flow, you have tipped the scales and the scales need to be eventually re-balanced ... also you have taken away the power from a person or persons to do it for themselves, to learn for themselves, to experience for themselves, whether as individuals or as a group, a society, a nation etc ..
[R] so this goes for STO/light forces whether in this universe or higher?
[Blue] when someone says they want to help you, or they are fighting the forces of darkness, you have to ask, why are they fighting against the forces of such darkness and what are they gaining and for whom in the process ... in truth if these beings were authentic, they would not be doing such things on your behalf ... it is the case they they are in some kind of battle themselves for their own need or defense, but some how are involving you in the picture or you are been used in order for them to gain for their own belief or needs ... sometimes belief systems are the worst for this kind of behaviour ...for many have a belief and thus go around trying to force their belief unto others ... a group of people were "led" to believe that putting flouride into your drinking water was of benefit to your health .... and so they lobbied and pushed your law makers to enforcing that this be the case ..... and so now you have flouride in your drinking water .... these people in their hearts believed that they were doing a good thing because they simply believed some manufactured data that this was the case and all their intentions were to want everyone to have better health ...
[R] Without getting into the rights and wrongs of this, lets say it was good for your health, then why not do it for the betterment of all ... what better way than to put it in the drinking water ...
[Blue] Why not just present the data to the people and let them decide if they want to put it in their drinking water .... there are many way to do this, via a referendum, or even better make it that flouride is free and people can pick these tablets or powder up from local distributors for free and put it in their own water should they also believe that flouride is of benefit for them .... there would be no cost difference to your government, either they would expend resources putting it in everyones supplies or simply give it to you in a powder for you to mix if you should wish so ...this way you have free choice to choose whether you want it or not ... currently it is put in your drinking supplies whether you want it or not ... and all this was done with out consent of the people ... the same goes for your vaccines ... in many of your countries it is law to have your children vaccinated and if you do not, life is made rather difficult for your children ... when you see this kind of behaviour, you have to ask, whom does it serve, who gains from these laws or actions .... why not simply give people the choice to vaccinate or not ...Those who vaccinate would so called be protected from any infections should they not, so what is the problem if others did not vaccinate, surely those who do not vaccinate are taking a risk only unto themselves and would not affect those who did vaccinate?
[R] Are you saying that flouride and vaccinations are bad?
[Blue] No! ... we are not validating or invalidating neither ... we present these as examples so you can see where the logic is .... we are giving you this so you may think on it and come to your own belief or conclusions more clearly ..
[R] So what has Blue got to gain from these transcriptions ...
[Blue] you simply ask and we provide .... we provide only information for you to mull and digest ... what you do with it and how you use it is entirely your free will and choice ....
[R] What if I asked a question so I could gain advantage .. would this not be seen as interference from your end ....
[Blue] If the answer was simply the truth of it and was not given to show favour and you were left to your own choice and action then nothing has been interfered with ...
[R] So why won't you give me next week's winning lotto numbers?
[Blue] Because it is only for your own gain, and not for all to gain ... and also you do not understand how future time threads operate making it difficult for us to pin point such predictions which for us is all one blur for all the lotteries in all the universes in all past, present and future times threads are all occuring simultaneously .... so which one shall we tell you?
[R] So you are saying to even assist someone who you know is only gaining for themselves is wrong ...
[Blue] No! we are saying it is our free will and choice to choose whether or not to assist someone who wishes only to gain for themselves ...
[R] Aaarghh!! You drive me nuts ..
[Blue] You have to do what you must do ... what your wishes and wants and desires are ... and should that mean that you have to manufacture events againts the flow so you can gain for your own desires then so be it ... BUT!! do understand that by doing this you have upset a balance and this may or may not come back unto you ...
[R] But how can one do anything without cause and effect .... every fart or breath I make is going to upset someone or something so how can this be? ...
[Blue] Simply, unconditionally!! ... your every action and doing must be unconditional ... there must not be an expected outcome from it .... no validation or invalidation ...
[R] Please give an example, my head hurts ..
[Blue] Mmm ... let's use give/receive to simplify ... you decide to give your brother your hi-fi system because he does not have one ... now this would be deemed admirable by some ... but why did you do it .... really do it ...
a) Did you do it thinking that it would make up for that argument you had years ago
b) Did you do it so you could gain a favour
c) Did you do it so you could then justify with your wife why you need to buy yourself a new hi-fi system
d) Or did you do simply because you knew that your brother needed one and he could not afford it and since you had a spare one or you did not require yours anymore ... There are multiple permutations, but d) would be the unconditional one ... the rest had a condition set upon them whether they appeared to be malign or benign ... they were conditional ... this is a simple example ... but applies on a universal level as well ... to answer your initial questions ..... beings who operate unconditionally do not fight against forces of darkness or even malign forces .... for they would understand universal laws and they would not see one cause of action justifiable against another ... either way they would be contributing to create an inbalance which would need to be re-balanced eventually anyway .... if they were to be in such a manner then they must have an intention to gain ... to gain means you do not already have it and if you do not already have it then you are not the all that you say you are but working either side of it ... so how can these beings preach unconditionality when they say they are for one polarity or the other .... has not anyone told them, that all has come and gone and everything now is being reviewed and is an illusion
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[R]That's enough for me ... I told you Blue never sees the way I do ..
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