It just seems to be the topology upon which everything works.

Question: Is there a way I could use that to eliminate the need for the membrane metaphor?

The membrane, in string theory, is simply "a surface" such as our earth surface or a folded surface.

Question: Or does the toroidal model only concern itself with "this" side?

The toroidal model is simply hypothesizing that, after extensive observation, the universe seems to be constructed in such a manner as to be toroidal, from the sub-atomic level to the cosmic and even universal levels.

Question: Could the mayan calendar's end actually mark the mid-point, the point of crossing, the moment our region crosses the equator of the toroid universe, and consequently the moment space begins to contract? (rather than "the end".)

This is possible because of the cycle known, the known ages, the facts of Mayan Cosmology and the alignment itself. All these suggest something reversing or turning inside out or some such notion. We call it cause = effect or Now = no time, no space or Inside becomes Outside. That may add up to a reversal of the direction of time, meaning space begins to slow, eventually stop, reverse then begin to contract, which, according to the toroidal theory, is the "time" our universal "surface (membrane) crosses the equator surface.

Question: And, what exactly does it mean (for us) to cross the equator? can we see the effects in nearby galaxies?

If a hypothetical equator is crossed, first, "time" will be seen to stop, for a while (a thousand years on the equator?). The galaxies will begin to give reverse measurements as to their direction and velocities.

Question: "On the membrane: It is useful right now for me to keep the inside and outside universe in my head. I might have to wait to see your new paper before I can discard it."

You don't really have to discard your "inside and outside universe theories" because, if you will realize it, the toroidal universe already has the correct inside and outside surfaces (membranes), from the beginning, as noted by many authors and studies. The inside and outside toroidal universe seems to be the correct one, upon which the contracting inside and expanding outside works. Remember, atomically, both this contraction and expansion is going on at the same "time" and cosmically, it is going on at the same "time", the contraction is called gravity and the expansion called Einstein's Cosmological Constant. We detect a contracting gravity around earth because earth is also toroidal and space is contracting (falling/spiraling) into its center. This is the nature of space and earth is not causing space to curve. The curved surface of the toroidal universe is causing space to curve on the curved toroidal surface of universe. Matter only looks like it causes space to curve around it but matter is not the dynamic that makes space curve. Matter is only the solid trash that collects in the center of the spiral drain of space emptying into a center drain. The ancients had a choice word for it. Neco-shet or nico-deamon (Nichodemous of the bible). Neco means "Dragon" and use your imagination for the other half.

Question: "If we can't, is it because of the intrinsic qualities of light and space? For instance, could science be seeking lots of 'dark matter' simply because we can't see past the equator?"

Yeah. Scientists are looking "out" into universe and see the horizon curve in every direction and ask, "is the universe open, closed or flat". Well is the curved surface of a humongous toroid, flat? Is it curved in every direction and seems infinitely open, yet after it curves back into the blackhole eventually, and cycles thru the center and comes back out the whitehole again as a bang (actually a lightspeed-spin with a 180 degree twist in dimension), will it be seen as a closed system and cyclically finite?

Question: "Well, if the toroid model makes everything a torus, including the largest unit, universe, and the smallest unit, anu, and the tori are constantly 'rolling' from whitehole to blackhole, does this imply (or rather, explicitly state) that there is a clear entrance and exit? or rather, a clear center? A real, tangible center, to all things, including the universe itself?"

Yes, the entrance and exit is over our universes horizon and cant be seen at this time but we should understand it is there because space curves, and if you extend that curving you will wind up with a sphere and taking one more simple step by realizing all things cycle, turn the sphere into the torus because only the torus can cycle infinitely.

Question: The kabbala mentions the torus of creation. That a line of light/spirit enters from outside into the empty space down to its center (the center of the universe). perhaps it's actually the center which is reaching up onto its own surface? (which then loops back, across its entire surface, into the bottom, straight up to the center and out)

Torah = torus. The line of light exists on the membrane of the torus. The inside center spirals up out of the whitehole-1/2 twist-bang and moves over the outside, then loops around the outside (anu or universe torus) and spirals back into the blackhole to its inside center again to repeat (iterate) aka Tenen.

Question: Where does the holon-universe (ken wilber) fit in? Does this model allow infinite nesting in both directions? Or, could it be said that there are infinite 'theoretical' and 'mathematical' nestings in both directions, but in order to exist in this particular slice of creation, in this particular universe, the 'size' or 'nesting factor' of the tori must be within a certain range? For instance, the anu being the smallest manifestable 'thing' and being the least nested and the universe being the largest 'thing' and being the most inclusive. Beyond those two extremes cannot manifest here.

Ken Wilber is taking care of his world, you take care of your world, after you extract all you need. Infinite nesting, to me, means, that an almost infinite number if microscopic anu tori can aggregate to form larger units of matter in effect, photons, electrons, protons, atoms, molecules....extrapolate to the whole universe. The basic unit, the anu torus is the same everywhere as far as I understand. The bottom line is tori within other larger tori. In other words, spirals within spirals, not circles within circles or spheres within spheres.

Question: Does your model suggest that there are innumerous tori universe's? One for each black hole galactic center?

We understand one universal torus. Within the center of our universal torus should be a place where two octahedron vertexes meet. An octahedrons vertex is the point of the octahedron.

This point is called the big bang point. This point coincides with the center of the universal torus. From one octahedron, universal information left and passed thru the vertex of the next octahedron, where it blasted (spiraled) out into virgin space for trillions of years. The shape of the sides if these octahedron is precisely the same side angle of the Kuhfu pyramid of Giza. This tells us that space expands in the exact same manner as the sides of the Kuhfu pyramid. It is no mistake that these two are the same. Since there are two octahedral vertexes touching one universal torus center we have to wonder what is connected to the other vertexes of both octaherda. This implies that the other end of each octahedron also has another octahedron connected to it thus more universal toroids, meaning more universes.

Everything we detect is, generally, a toroidal shape or field. All atomic spheric shapes are cycling tori. All atoms are toroidal. The human brain is a torus. The alimentary tract is a torus, The earth has a toroidal field. Some say the earth is hollow as if there are two holes in it like a torus. Every star and planet are toroidal cyclers of energy. All galaxies have a toroidal field about them that cycles energy perpendicular to the disc axis. If you could see the whole galaxy, you will see a round torus around the disc. Searls machine is a section thru a torus sphere.

Question: Does each galaxy contribute an universe?

A galaxy is a galaxy isn't it? It is also the shape of a torus if you study it well.

Question: Also, when galaxies collide, what does this suggest in your model?

To me it suggests that galaxies don't collide because stars are positive to other stars and two star repulse. Galaxies pass thru each other. Believe me, there is plenty of room.

(Note: This non.collision statement set off a firestorm of conjecture from the mindlessly conditioned but the non.collision argument held).

Question: Also, are you familiar with any work which suggests that the layers of the human physiological frame also is toroidal in nature?

Uh huh.

Question: This would fit the micro/macro model...

Question: Are you familiar with the work of stan tennen?

Uh huh.

Question: This is a different picture than what I've been building in my head. I've been seeing a 'rolling' torus, where all the twisting happens in the 'core', but once a 'whatever' emerges from the whitehole at the top let's say, it spreads down along the surface, rolls down along the surface evenly. Spreading outward as it goes, to conform to the spherical shape, and then into the blackhole for twist and another go. The skin would appear to roll downwards from whitehole to blackhole, in 'bands' you could say if you marked the 'whatever' coming out of the top.

There are always 3 or 4 forces acting at 90 degrees upon all straight line force and it makes that force twist in 3 dimensions so the result is a spiraling over the surface of the torus rather than straight line (bands) spreading out over the surface...but...the compacted spiral, exiting the whitehole does spread out as it spirals and returns to a narrow force as it re-enters the blackhole again.

Question: However, your picture traces curves on the outside as well, a la meru project.

Uh huh.

Question: If you slow the process down, would you see a single 'point' tracing a single 'line' twisting up through the core, out through the whitehole, down across the surface, and back up into the blackhole? Then the next iteration happening at some interval across the surface? Then speed it up and you get a 'solid fill' of the surface?

Yes, the torus, like all other platonic shapes don't really exist in space so we could see them. These shapes just give us hints as to how energy moves invisibly. The shapes are simply learning aids for humans.