NEW OBJECT SEEN IN SKY?

Posted By: InquiringMind <Send E-Mail>
Date: Sunday, 4 July 2004, 2:33 p.m.

I had a dream of seeing a "moon" which wasn't the moon because it wasn't round. With the "moon" came incoming asteroids, comets, whatever they are.

Because of this dream, I find the following post on The Rumor Mill to be a little disturbing. Anyone else see this object in the sky??

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=51649

HUGE FIERY HALF MOON OBJECT APPEARS IN MORNING SKY!

Posted By: CliffMickelson <Send E-Mail>
Date: Sunday, 4 July 2004, 7:08 a.m.

Greetings:

As I write these words, above me to the east there is a large brilliantly white and fiery looking object that has just appeared in the morning sky.

Knowing at once that this was something of importance, I placed a call to the local 911. As it turns out, the 911 staff were watching this object as well.

Through 50 power binoculars the object appears to shimmer as if giving of a great amount of heat. It curiously has a "half moon" look to it as well. This is due to the fact that the upper portion, from 1 oclock to approx 4 oclock is scooped out.

Another mysterious object appears to be tracking the first object. It looks for all intents and purposes to be a very large twinkler. In the half hour that I have been observing this "thing" that has so suddenly appeared before us, the second twinkler like object has kept an unbroken pace with it's aforementioned companion.

I have no idea what this object is, but my friends, As suddenly as it has appeared, I can not help but view it with great trepidation. A few moments ago, I called Pravdaseeker. He lives in the State of Arizona. He kindly shook the sleep from his eyes and obliged me by stepping outside to look for the object. He spotted it at once.

Huston....I think we may have a BIG problem!

Let's all hope Ol' Cliff is wrong on this one, eh?

I will keep you posted as events continue.....

CliffMickelson

SUN IS NOW UP, YET OBJECT STILL VISIBLE IN SKY!

Posted By: CliffMickelson <Send E-Mail>
Date: Sunday, 4 July 2004, 7:35 a.m.

In Response To: HUGE FIERY HALF MOON OBJECT APPEARS IN MORNING SKY! (CliffMickelson)

Greetings:

This will be short.

The sun has now been up for 5 or 6 min.

The object is still visible in the morning sky, a testament to the intensity of the light it is generating.

Though somewhat fainter now due to the overpowering sunlight, the fact that it remains easily seen by the naked eye creates more questions than it answers.

Personally, I would like to know. How could something that is this bright, appear out of no where ?

It must be a comet of some kind, but I doubt that it is any of the recent three that have been playing tag with the sun. This thing is the "industrial Size" celestial object!

More as events unfold...

CliffMickelson

Re: Location?

Posted By: CliffMickelson <Send E-Mail>
Date: Sunday, 4 July 2004, 8:03 a.m.

In Response To: Location? (Debra_Mohon)

: Cliff,

: I am in Texas and the there are morning clouds along the
: eastern horizon, so I haven't seen this thing yet.

: Also, I am not sure where to look. Could you describe the
: object's location in the sky?

: Debra

Greetings, Debra:

Yes, It is still visible here in Washington at this moment but you will have to use binoculars. I don't know for sure about down in Texas.

When it was first seen, it was at about 40 degrees east and at about the 4 oclock position. When it finally faded from sight for an unaided eye, it had moved to approx the 2:30 position. With a pair of binocs you can still find it. Best bet at this late point may be to wait until tomorrow morning around 5 AM!

CliffMickelson

I'M TERRIBLE WITH DIRECTIONS

Posted By: buzzard <Send E-Mail>
Date: Sunday, 4 July 2004, 12:34 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Location? (CliffMickelson)

Hi Cliff,

Without a compass and a protractor I can't figure out what direction to look; also, I don't know what you mean by the four o'clock position because I don't know where 12 or 6 o'clock is...is the clock face straight in front of me with 6 touching the horizon?

If I am standing on the southern Connecticut shore looking out toward Long Island, where can I find it? I get out of work around midnight tonight (EST) and will start looking for it.

IS OBJECT VENUS? CHANCE OF LIFETIME! SEE IT TOMORROW!

Posted By: CliffMickelson <Send E-Mail>
Date: Sunday, 4 July 2004, 6:30 p.m.

In Response To: SUN IS NOW UP, YET OBJECT STILL VISIBLE IN SKY! (CliffMickelson)

Greetings All:

A bit of good news!

Many people are reporting that the object in the AM sky is the planet Venus. It's accompaning object may be the star, Aldebaran!

In all my years of observing Venus, that old gal has NEVER looked this gussied up!

So...I must say that if this is the case then I urge EVERYONE who can do so, to rise early tomorrow, (before sunrise) and, with a good pair of binoculars, take a long look!

The opportunity to see this object and the incredible celestial display it is providing, may not avail itself to any of us again in the near future!

Take the kids out to see it as well! That's the stuff of memories for the tykes, plus it's good family activity!

Let's keep the fingers crossed that it is every bit as bright as it was this morning.

As reported in my earlier posts today, it was so sensational at 5:AM this morning that even the staff of 911 was outside looking at it!

Let's hear from folks tomorrow as to the visuals, eh?

CliffMickelson

THE BEST WAY TO LOCATE THIS SPECTACULAR SIGHT!

Posted By: CliffMickelson <Send E-Mail>
Date: Sunday, 4 July 2004, 2:40 p.m.

In Response To: I'M TERRIBLE WITH DIRECTIONS (buzzard)

: Hi Cliff,

: Without a compass and a protractor I can't figure out what
: direction to look; also, I don't know what you mean by the
: four o'clock position because I don't know where 12 or 6
: o'clock is...is the clock face straight in front of me with
: 6 touching the horizon?

: If I am standing on the southern Connecticut shore looking out
: toward Long Island, where can I find it? I get out of work
: around midnight tonight (EST) and will start looking for
: it.
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Greetings, Buzzard:

Yes, I agree that those directions were pretty vague! I plead insomnia in the first degree, compounded by a bunch of excitement!

Let me try this again for all the folks out there.

Since the object is apparently coming up over the horizon about 30 min. ahead of the sun, One's best opportunity to view it is to go out side before sunrise and simply look up 15 or 20 degrees from the horizon at approx. 75 degrees of compass from magnetic north. I guarantee everyone that if this object, or Venus, or whatever it may be, is there again, and looks even closely similar to the way it appeared this morning, then any further directions will be completely unnecessary!

I strongly urge those interested in seeing this phenomena to try and be outside at least 45 min. before the sun rises. The view is all the more spectacular for the darkness. If you rise early and see nothing, just wait a few min. It will be there unless the entire movie has been canceled! But, with a first run like the one I saw this morning, I can't imagine that tomorrow morning will be anything less than equally as impressive.

This is the sight of a lifetime! If what we are seeing is Venus distorted by atmospherics, A new comet, A Blue Beam mirage, or Venus going nuclear, it is still well worth losing a few hours sleep in order to see.

I had been outside most of the night watching the sky and had thrown in the towel for the duration when this thing caught my eye! I almost fell over in amazement! The people I contacted at the local office of 911 were equally as amazed as I!
So, I am quite certain as a result that valid corroboration of this sighting exists! It's tough to argue the fine points when local Law enforcement dispatch is outside watching the thing too!

What can be debated however is WHAT it was we all saw?

Venus or a comet or what? If it was some sort of totally bizarre atmospheric event then we will all be disappointed tomorrow morning. However, I suspect that early risers will be well rewarded.

CliffMickelson

A CORRECTION ON THE COMPASS HEADING!

Posted By: CliffMickelson <Send E-Mail>
Date: Sunday, 4 July 2004, 2:53 p.m.

In Response To: THE BEST WAY TO LOCATE THIS SPECTACULAR SIGHT! (CliffMickelson)

Greetings, All:

In my post containing the directions on how to locate this object, I stated: "look at 75 degrees of compass. That was a typo. It should have read 45 degrees of compass.

A safe bet is 45 to 55 degrees.

However, I repeat that if the object returns tomorrow morning in it's same manifestation, ......no one who looks up and to the east is going to need a compass!

Take a pair of binoculars however, since they will provide an enargement of the object that is stunning, if not a bit scary!

Also, Check out the twinkler that appeared directly behind the object and a bit to the south. It too remained visible until at least 10 min. after sunrise. The object itself was still able to be located with the unaided eye, more than 30 min. after sunrise! Impressive!

Let us all hope the same combination of events transpire tomorrow morning! I'm keeping my fingers crossed!

CliffMickelson

Re: A CORRECTION ON THE COMPASS HEADING!

Posted By: PRAVDASEEKER <Send E-Mail>
Date: Sunday, 4 July 2004, 3:25 p.m.

In Response To: A CORRECTION ON THE COMPASS HEADING! (CliffMickelson)

Dear RMN Readers and Agents,

BINGO CLIFF! And yes I saw the twinkler at 4 o'clock also thru the binoculars...

My observations are in line with the RMN email reply from the folks in ISRAEL also. And once again, it should be VENUS...

From my point of view it was about 80 degrees compass heading from magnetic north in AZ, which is aprox 7 degrees off from true north.. due to "bending" of the magnetics in this region..

Am now off to the woods again, will use binoculars to see critters, instead of bright objects in eastern dawn sky! Catch up with all of you Agents and treasured RMN readers this evening!

GOD BLESS you all

PRAVDASEEKER

READER:FIERY OBJECT ALSO SEEN AT SAME TIME IN ISRAEL!

Posted By: CliffMickelson <Send E-Mail>
Date: Sunday, 4 July 2004, 3:15 p.m.

In Response To: THE BEST WAY TO LOCATE THIS SPECTACULAR SIGHT! (CliffMickelson)

Re: IS THIS THING VENUS ON STEROIDS?

Cliff, I think this is the one I've been seeing everyday for a few months now.
I've been talking about it once with Gigi here on RMN. It looks about twice as bright as Mars was on its closest aproach.

All my family used to watch it every night as it became visible from our balcony at about 7 or 8 in the evening.

Then after a couple of hours we would lose sight of it as the buildings across the road blocked our view. From other locations you could see it slowly setting in the west.

Even on heavy Chemtrail nights and full Moon nights this one was so extraordinerely bright!

Then a few weeks ago it disapeared. It was so strange.

It was nowere to be seen. Then just a week ago, I got to stay up late untill morning and I found it again.

Now it becomes visible to me as it rise in the south at about 30 minutes before dawn. I do not have a clear view southwards so it probably comes out earlier.

Since then I see it every time I'm up that early in the same place. It is spectecular to see it when the sky is already fairly bright and it still shines so hard.

I saw it yesterday as the sky was starting to brighten up. No other star was visible but one small twinkler very close to this megastar or whatever it is, I'd say at about a 5 oclock angle from it.

Look for it again this morning. I promise you it will be there!

-M.

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Re: IS THIS THING VENUS ON STEROIDS?

How could it be that we are seeing this at the same time and at the same location, east, and you are in the States and I am in Israel ??? But we do!!

I also think you saw it much bigger then I did. you said one eighth the size of the full moon?

Over here in Israel it was about half that or even less, I think but still by far the largest, brightest object I or anyone else that I shown this to in the past month, have ever seen!

OK dude. this the last one :) Can't wait to see if people will see it again every morning like I do.

I did wonder how come only Gigi was talking of this.

Michael

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Re: IS THIS THING VENUS ON STEROIDS?

Cliff, I'm sorry I'm not writing this all at once,

I'm very excited!

Please ask Gigi if he has also notices that this very bright star? (NOT Mars) that he's been seeing has also disapeared very strangely some time ago, after rising in the same place and time for some months!

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Re: IS THIS THING VENUS ON STEROIDS?

Cliff, ask Gigi. His been telling you about this one for some time now.

I think I also maybe said something about this to you ?
I think only now when it strangely changes the times it comes up, did it became visible in your sky.

I don't think you would have missed it. Il take some images of it next morning, Ill send them to you asap.

M.

IS THIS THING VENUS ON STEROIDS?

Posted By: CliffMickelson <Send E-Mail>
Date: Sunday, 4 July 2004, 7:59 a.m.

In Response To: HUGE FIERY HALF MOON OBJECT APPEARS IN MORNING SKY! (CliffMickelson)

Greetings,

I hasten to assure you that I would love to be wrong about this object, but I suspect it is a large comet. Venus is mentioned in several applets, etc, and that would be just fine with me. However, I doubt that the folks at 911 headquarters are in the habit of being amazed by Venus. Neither am I. Though I rarely see Venus due to the fact that we are separated and she filed for divorce!

Anyway, the sun has now been up for more than 30 min. and the object is just now fading from the naked eye. It is still easily dicernable with binoculars however.

Earlier in the morning, this object appeared with such intensity that it drew many early risers outdoors to see it.

If Venus is indeed the culprit here, then the planet is obviously being affected in some way that makes it brighter, much brighter than normal.

Also, She is putting on a show that is worth staying up for and I intend to do so tomorrow morning as well!

At 4:50 this morning, Venus must have just taken her steroids.

She was nearly one eighth the size of the full moon!

Tomorrow morning will be most interesting, eh?

CliffMickelson

Re: IS THIS THING VENUS ON STEROIDS?

Posted By: Nine_Of_Eleven <Send E-Mail>
Date: Sunday, 4 July 2004, 9:23 a.m.

In Response To: IS THIS THING VENUS ON STEROIDS? (CliffMickelson)

Wormwood Comes

Doth Wormwood approach, and approaching cow

the spirit of Nimrod...that mighty hunter

before Almighty God?

Or approaching doth Nimrod now shake his mighty fist

in the face of his god of hunts and prey?

Alas the question shall itself defy,

the spirits of those who have no God above themselves,

And leave them there alone,

upon that final day.

Resistance is Cosmic,

Nine of Eleven

: Greetings,

: I hasten to assure you that I would love to be wrong about
: this object, but I suspect it is a large comet. Venus is
: mentioned in several applets, etc, and that would be just
: fine with me. However, I doubt that the folks at 911
: headquarters are in the habit of being amazed by Venus.
: Neither am I. Though I rarely see Venus due to the fact
: that we are separated and she filed for divorce!

: Anyway, the sun has now been up for more than 30 min. and the
: object is just now fading from the naked eye. It is still
: easily dicernable with binoculars however.

: Earlier in the morning, this object appeared with such
: intensity that it drew many early risers outdoors to see
: it.

: If Venus is indeed the culprit here, then the planet is
: obviously being affected in some way that makes it
: brighter, much brighter than normal.

: Also, She is putting on a show that is worth staying up for
: and I intend to do so tomorrow morning as well!

: At 4:50 this morning, Venus must have just taken her steroids.

: She was nearly one eighth the size of the full moon!

: Tomorrow morning will be most interesting, eh?

: CliffMickelson

ANOTHER READER LINKS OBJECT TO FORMER EVENING ANOMALY!

Posted By: CliffMickelson <Send E-Mail>
Date: Sunday, 4 July 2004, 3:42 p.m.

In Response To: Re: IS THIS THING VENUS ON STEROIDS? (Nine_Of_Eleven)

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Re: READER:FIREY OBJECT ALSO SEEN AT SAME TIME....

I'll have to get up early for this, but it seems from the reports to be the same object that WAS Visible during the early evening for several months.

When I first spoted it one early socal evening, it so startled me I called friends and family to see it.

I filmed it, checked it against known planets etc...no dice. As another agent pointed out, it disapeared from the evening sky some weeks ago. Now its back in the morning along with its twinkler friends...stranger and stranger.

And keep up the good work Cliff...theres so much disinfo and blatant bashing around here lately its good to see you still keeping your eye on the important things going on above us whilst the fools stay distracted =)

-A

BRIGHT OBJECT ON EASTERN HORIZON

Posted By: PRAVDASEEKER <Send E-Mail>
Date: Sunday, 4 July 2004, 3:18 p.m.

In Response To: What about when the air is clean and free? (Freedom4ever)

Dear RMN Readers and Agents,

I am a shiftworker, and was on nights and days this last week.

This object was noted by myself and co-workers all during that time; although granted this morning it was EXTRA bright to me here in ol AZ... perhaps due in part to IZAKOVIC's post above also.

I went to my favorite planetary applet:

http://www.jgiesen.de/planets/index.html

I typed in all the needed perameters... and it showed that Venus was the culprit, per the applet anyhow. BUT... once again, I beat the dead horse on planetary ecliptic concerns of mine here....

According to the applet, at the time of CLiffs call, it should have been at 24 degrees inclination... this bright object was 35 degrees, EASY from the horizon, once again TOO high per the applets.

I myself, am quite confident it twas Venus, as it was the only BRIGHT object in the sky, and this jives with its position, as it is NOW the morning star following its transit on June 6th.. no longer in the west at sunset, but is NOW the bright morning star.

As for it appearing suddenly this, in my opinion, was caused by the extreme amount of chemtrail material in the skys these days.. as it first rises, we on Earth are looking through a very long distance of atmosphere, FULL of barium salts, and aluminum powders. This dust screen greatly diminishes the brightness of objects in the heavens. As the object further rises, it RAPIDLY decreases the amount of atmosphere we must observe through. This "effect" has what appears to be a "regular" star (much DIMMER), THEN 5 minutes later, the brightness, or magnitude of the object increases greatly, and giving the appearance of APPEARING suddenly.

As for the ovoid shape, or "scooped out look to the object, I propose this guesstimate..

Is it possible that Venus, recently doing it's transit thing... is ONLY showing us a partially FULL LIT up face. As it may not have proceeded along in it's orbit around the sun FAR ENOUGH, to show us from our perspective a fully lit up face?

As just prior to the transit, Venus was "advertised" per spacewatch websites, to be part of a DOUBLE CRESCENT? Remember the double crescent news a week or more prior to transit with the moon being a crescent, and BESIDE it was Venus in crescent ALSO?

It is my guesstimate that Venus has NOT travelled far enough in it's orbit to show us its fully lit up face. Similar to the full moon, a few days PRIOR to being actually officially a full moon, follow me here folks?

IF my thoughts, and theory holds water, we should see this object get a bit brighter in the next several days.. as it begins to show us its fully lit up face.

Although this does NOT discount the observed fact, from my perspective, that it is STILL TOO HIGH in the sky per the planetary applets I have access to. And, we are still relatively CLOSE to Venus distance-wise, as during the transit we were dang close to each other, so close that the particle coma of Venus, driven by the solar "winds", was almost, if not actually, reaching Earth! This, I believe, contributes to the increased brightness. ALSO Hoaglands site tells us increased brightness of Venus, in the post series, " Planetary Day After Tomorrow".. a worthy read for those who have not done so yet!!! www.enterprisemission.com

This post does NOT detract from BOB H.'s post, or others, as there is a definate tilt going on, in my opinion.. and the NASA announcement soon, posted by CLiff; supports RMN Agents observations and posts! LOL

And to my dear friend CLiff, call ANYTIME you think you need to, no worries dude!! We are here for each other and RMN..

ENJOY THE RIDE FOLKS!! IT ONLY GETS BETTER! BE NOT AFRAID< BUT BE OBSERVANT!

PRAVDASEEKER

SWITZERLAND REPORTS IN: OBJECT LIKE A GREAT FIERY BALL!

Posted By: CliffMickelson <Send E-Mail>
Date: Sunday, 4 July 2004, 4:06 p.m.

In Response To: BRIGHT OBJECT ON EASTERN HORIZON (PRAVDASEEKER)

Re: HUGE FIERY HALF MOON OBJECT APPEARS IN MOR....

Cliff, -C here from Lugano in Switzerland.

What you have just seen may explain what I saw yesterday morning here. Was it clear and were you awake yesterday at sunrise your time? Here today it is overcast so I can see nothing.

What I saw---no binoculars and bad, sleepy eyes was a very bright ball to the right of the rising sun---the sun has been rising further northeast for this past week.

I watched it from about 4:30 a.m. my time when it was larger, nearer obviously, and then over a period of about an hour, it moved southeast. From my vantage point, then, it moved higher and further away to the southeast, I suppose.

I was so wide awake, couldn't see the moon because it has been in the wrong place, as we know, so I did something my friends would probably say is shocking. At 5:00 A.M., I dressed, went to my car, and drove five minutes up to the top of the mountain that I live on to have a 360 degree view.

Sunlight was streaming from the northeast, this bright ball which had seemed to me as well like Venus in the wrong place and about as Nine of Eleven said in size. While looking at it, I saw the full moon very distinctly hanging in the south southwest.

The wind was gently blowing but coming from different directions.
The previous night had been spectacular with a small meteor shower, full moon, and crystal air for the first time this summer. I felt physically like I often do after a good thunder shower.

Within a couple of hours, heavy air and dense cover moved in and is still here in Lugano, the southern most tip of Switzerland at the Italian border.

Cliff, no need to respond, post, or whatever. There is a lot going on you need to run point on, I think. Whatever you find helpful above, please take it and use without reference to my name.

Writing posts, observing the sky in detail, and being significantly aware of the different earth and sky around me is very new to me and not usual for the pattern of my life. I feel as strongly as I have ever felt anything that we are living in a radically altered environment. Reading Pravadaseeker, Esclarmonde, Izakovic, Nine of Eleven, and you causes me to nod my head and say, yes, that's it.

Sincerely,

-C

READER: CHARTS SAY OBJECT VENUS! WARNS OF CATASTROPHE!

Posted By: CliffMickelson <Send E-Mail>
Date: Sunday, 4 July 2004, 6:15 p.m.

In Response To: HUGE FIERY HALF MOON OBJECT APPEARS IN MORNING SKY! (CliffMickelson)

Hi Cliff,

I have confirmed by my charts that the object you saw is Venus.

Right now Venus will rise at a -4.4 Mag, which will make it look like a blazing golf ball in the morning sky.

This is the brightest that Venus appears as it will dim a little bit over the next several months

The (twinkler) is the star Aldebaran which is the brightest star in the constellation of Taurus. It has a mag. of 1.2 (very bright for a star)

It should appear directly under and right next to Venus to the South in the morning..

Andy

P.S.

There is something else to worry about however.........

I have had several people contact me with dreams for me to interpret for them.

None of these people know each other and they do not live in the same state.

The dreams all have a time period which I have interpreted that seem to point to a
"colossal catastrophe" in the Western part of North America around the week of July 19-23

I think it deals with volcanic as well as earthquakes on a major scale.

This is a "heads up" for anyone that lives in that area that may be feeling something.

I think that it will involve an area from Alaska all the way to Mexico.

-Regards:

COMMENTS

AUSTRALIA REPORTS IN ON VENUS & ALDEBARAN, OR WHATEVER!

Posted By: CliffMickelson <Send E-Mail>
Date: Sunday, 4 July 2004, 9:41 p.m.

In Response To: HUGE FIERY HALF MOON OBJECT APPEARS IN MORNING SKY! (CliffMickelson)

Re: HUGE FIERY HALF MOON OBJECT APPEARS IN MOR....

Dear Cliff, I live in Melbourne, Australia, right down South.

My friend Denise rang me last Wed, 30th June at 6.30 am telling me to go outside and look at the huge star in the eastern sky, to the north part of East. It was indeed huge, as you describe, with a smaller star also.

This is 4 days before you have it there, but in the southern hemisphere. It is mid winter here & we have had mostly cloudy mornings & so haven't checked since.Hope this is helpful. M

-M.

I would in no way call this nice image of Venus - FIERY!  Looked pretty normal to me!

Pic took approx. 5:15 a.m. PST.  Compare to pic of Venus taken by me at 9 p.m. on 5-12-04

Dee

VENUS  - TAKEN 5:15 A.M. 7-4-04

VENUS - TAKEN 5-12-04 -  9 P.M.

VENUS - TAKEN 7-5-04 - 5 A.M.
AT 4,000 FT ELEVATION

Hi Dee,
Well we all (Lucas Bry and I) got up at 4:00am and walked over to the school so that we could have a more treeless and full circle view of the sky.  We stayed out there til 5:30.  The only fireball we saw in the sky was Awesome
Beautiful Venus --huge and twinkling so brilliantly!  She was absolutely awesome--But no other fireballs moving  anywhere in sight...
Here are some jpgs (below) frozen from my video camera.  Doesn't do Venus justice at all--Looks much more spectacular with our own eyes-- but it is all i could get with this camera.  But it truly was a once in a lifetime day
to have all three of us up at 4:00am and OUTSIDE lying on lawn chairs at an elementary school baseball field :-)  Lucas had a ball and said to tell you "thanks"....
Love you,
Kimber

VENUS