TOM HORN

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FROM THE JIM BAKKER SHOW

JULY, 2015

MODERN DAY BABYLON

REVELATION 13:11    Then I saw a second beast, coming out of the earth.  It had two horns like a lamb, but it spoke like a dragon.

J.B. (Jim Bakker)  You believe that these things are going to happen and perhaps have been happening.

T.H. (Tom Horn)  And are part of End Times prophecy and if you are talking America mocking God, you know we just painted the White House with rainbow colored lights - in the news after the Supreme Court approved same sex marriage - right in God's face.

 You wouldn't think that has anything to do with CERN, but does it?

CERN - SWITZERLAND

Do all things that are happening right now make attempts to  open doorways to a parallel reality - well - that happens in the book of Revelation.

Rev: 9:1-21

Revelation 9King James Version (KJV)

9 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.

2 And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.

3 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.

4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.

5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.

6 And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.

7 And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men.

8 And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions.

9 And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle.

10 And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months.

11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.

12 One woe is past; and, behold, there come two woes more hereafter.

13 And the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God,

14 Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates.

15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.

16 And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them.

17 And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone.

18 By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.

19 For their power is in their mouth, and in their tails: for their tails were like unto serpents, and had heads, and with them they do hurt.

20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:

21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.

It's almost like saying, "You asked for it. you got it!  You've been trying to make contact - here it is!

It's like the concatamation of events around the world right now - between the Pope's an encyclical about a World Government set of laws about whether you can even sell that kind of food (freeze dried) that keeps 20 years.

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T.H.  In Paris this year, there will be a meeting of the United Nations and that's why the Pope put out his encyclical when he did which is going to call for the Agenda 21 type comtrol over what we can do.

Agenda 21 is a 300 page action plan of the United Nations regarding social and environmental issues, whether you can own a farm, whether you can eat meat.  That is coming this year.

http://www.greatdreams.com/Agenda21-UN.pdf

J.B.  What?  That's insane!

T.H.  A few days later in Rome, he signed a treaty with the State of Palestine - which angered Israel.  It says that they now reject "The Promised Land" idea of scripture.  Again!  Right in God's face.
 
T.H.  They are saying - "You may have a covenant, but we don't care about it.  We don't accept your covenant no more, we don't accept your rules.

So, what I'm seeing is a surface of things - it's like that vision of Nebuchadnezzer in Daniel 2:  1-45

Nebuchadnezzar’s Dream

2 In the second year of his reign, Nebuchadnezzar had dreams; his mind was troubled and he could not sleep. 2 So the king summoned the magicians,enchanters, sorcerers and astrologers[a] to tell him what he had dreamed.When they came in and stood before the king, 3 he said to them, “I have had a dream that troubles me and I want to know what it means.[b]”

4 Then the astrologers answered the king,[c] “May the king live forever! Tell your servants the dream, and we will interpret it.”

5 The king replied to the astrologers, “This is what I have firmly decided: If you do not tell me what my dream was and interpret it, I will have you cut into pieces and your houses turned into piles of rubble. 6 But if you tell me the dream and explain it, you will receive from me gifts and rewards and great honor. So tell me the dream and interpret it for me.”

7 Once more they replied, “Let the king tell his servants the dream, and we will interpret it.”

8 Then the king answered, “I am certain that you are trying to gain time, because you realize that this is what I have firmly decided: 9 If you do not tell me the dream, there is only one penalty for you. You have conspired to tell me misleading and wicked things, hoping the situation will change. So then, tell me the dream, and I will know that you can interpret it for me.”

10 The astrologers answered the king, “There is no one on earth who can do what the king asks! No king, however great and mighty, has ever asked such a thing of any magician or enchanter or astrologer. 11 What the king asks is too difficult. No one can reveal it to the king except the gods, and they do not live among humans.”

12 This made the king so angry and furious that he ordered the execution of all the wise men of Babylon. 13 So the decree was issued to put the wise men to death, and men were sent to look for Daniel and his friends to put them to death.

14 When Arioch, the commander of the king’s guard, had gone out to put to death the wise men of Babylon, Daniel spoke to him with wisdom and tact.15 He asked the king’s officer, “Why did the king issue such a harsh decree?” Arioch then explained the matter to Daniel. 16 At this, Daniel went in to the king and asked for time, so that he might interpret the dream for him.

17 Then Daniel returned to his house and explained the matter to his friends Hananiah, Mishael and Azariah. 18 He urged them to plead for mercy from the God of heaven concerning this mystery, so that he and his friends might not be executed with the rest of the wise men of Babylon. 19 During the night the mystery was revealed to Daniel in a vision. Then Daniel praised the God of heaven 20 and said:

“Praise be to the name of God for ever and ever;
     wisdom and power are his.
 21 He changes times and seasons;
     he deposes kings and raises up others.
He gives wisdom to the wise
     and knowledge to the discerning.
 22 He reveals deep and hidden things;
     he knows what lies in darkness,
     and light dwells with him.
 23 I thank and praise you, God of my ancestors:
     You have given me wisdom and power,
you have made known to me what we asked of you,
     you have made known to us the dream of the king.”

Daniel Interprets the Dream

24 Then Daniel went to Arioch, whom the king had appointed to execute the wise men of Babylon, and said to him, “Do not execute the wise men of Babylon. Take me to the king, and I will interpret his dream for him.”

25 Arioch took Daniel to the king at once and said, “I have found a man among the exiles from Judah who can tell the king what his dream means.”

26 The king asked Daniel (also called Belteshazzar), “Are you able to tell me what I saw in my dream and interpret it?”

27 Daniel replied, “No wise man, enchanter, magician or diviner can explain to the king the mystery he has asked about, 28 but there is a God in heaven who reveals mysteries. He has shown King Nebuchadnezzar what will happen in days to come. Your dream and the visions that passed through your mind as you were lying in bed are these:

29 “As Your Majesty was lying there, your mind turned to things to come, and the revealer of mysteries showed you what is going to happen. 30 As for me, this mystery has been revealed to me, not because I have greater wisdom than anyone else alive, but so that Your Majesty may know the interpretation and that you may understand what went through your mind.

31 “Your Majesty looked, and there before you stood a large statue—an enormous, dazzling statue, awesome in appearance. 32 The head of the statue was made of pure gold, its chest and arms of silver, its belly and thighs of bronze, 33 its legs of iron, its feet partly of iron and partly of baked clay.34 While you were watching, a rock was cut out, but not by human hands. It struck the statue on its feet of iron and clay and smashed them. 35 Then the iron, the clay, the bronze, the silver and the gold were all broken to pieces and became like chaff on a threshing floor in the summer. The wind swept them away without leaving a trace. But the rock that struck the statue became a huge mountain and filled the whole earth.

36 “This was the dream, and now we will interpret it to the king. 37 Your Majesty, you are the king of kings. The God of heaven has given you dominion and power and might and glory; 38 in your hands he has placed all mankind and the beasts of the field and the birds in the sky. Wherever they live, he has made you ruler over them all. You are that head of gold.

39 “After you, another kingdom will arise, inferior to yours. Next, a third kingdom, one of bronze, will rule over the whole earth. 40 Finally, there will be a fourth kingdom, strong as iron—for iron breaks and smashes everything—and as iron breaks things to pieces, so it will crush and break all the others. 41 Just as you saw that the feet and toes were partly of baked clay and partly of iron, so this will be a divided kingdom; yet it will have some of the strength of iron in it, even as you saw iron mixed with clay. 42 As the toes were partly iron and partly clay, so this kingdom will be partly strong and partly brittle. 43 And just as you saw the iron mixed with baked clay, so the people will be a mixture and will not remain united, any more than iron mixes with clay.

44 “In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever. 45 This is the meaning of the vision of the rock cut out of a mountain, but not by human hands—a rock that broke the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver and the gold to pieces.

“The great God has shown the king what will take place in the future. The dream is true and its interpretation is trustworthy.”

46 Then King Nebuchadnezzar fell prostrate before Daniel and paid him honor and ordered that an offering and incense be presented to him. 47 The king said to Daniel, “Surely your God is the God of gods and the Lord of kings and a revealer of mysteries, for you were able to reveal this mystery.”

48 Then the king placed Daniel in a high position and lavished many gifts on him. He made him ruler over the entire province of Babylon and placed him in charge of all its wise men. 49 Moreover, at Daniel’s request the king appointed Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego administrators over the province of Babylon,while Daniel himself remained at the royal court.

Footnotes:

  1. Daniel 2:2 Or Chaldeans; also in verses 4, 5 and 10
  2. Daniel 2:3 Or was
  3. Daniel 2:4 At this point the Hebrew text has in Aramaic, indicating that the text from here through the end of chapter 7 is in Aramaic.

T.H.   That thing has started mocking.  Those feet are coming down now,  One after the other.

And we are seeing things worldwide that I think in it's own way... the average person wouldn't put 2 and 3 together and think that CERN don't have nothing to do with this.

CERN is a Hadron Particle Collider located on the France - Switzerland border -

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They just started it back up.  They took it down for a few years so they could reboot and rework - then coming back on line.

Now in the last two or three weeks they are revving it back up - each time going to higher and higher levels of power.

They are already colliding underground in this 17 mile diameter tube that is buried there.   They race their protons just beneath the speed of light and then they crunch them down into the size of a hair width - the protons are going in both directions and they are colliding them together.  It's one of the most powerful experiments ever done in the history of mankind.

There are even particle physicists who are concerned - they are kind of hushed up - but they are very concerned with the fact that what we are trying to do is open black holes.  Miniature black holes - BUT!  But why are we trying do do it?

Scientists at the European Organization for Nuclear Research (CERN) are again ready to use their Large Hadron Collider (LHC) to see what they can do or find. When used before, the so-called “God Particle” was identified. However, with world-renowned physicist Stephen Hawking, among others, warning CERN not to follow through, one wonders if CERN is playing with fire. This becomes a question of not if a scientific team can move forward with their experiments, but if they should. Recently, Dr. Stephen Hawking stated that, “The ‘God Particle’ found by CERN could destroy the universe leaving time and space collapsed.”

This seems like a pretty direct warning to the scientists at CERN pleading that they do not take their experiments further. After finding the “God Particle” by crashing proton beams together at near the speed of light, the system was deactivated to do a major overhaul-reboot. After almost three years of re-calculating their machinery, and beefing up their LHC to hold almost twice the amount of energy it could before, CERN has finally begun preliminary tests to make certain their containment fields are up to par.

In 2012, the LHC was able to hold eight teraelectron volts (TEV). In 2013, CERN was able to identify what is now known as the “Higgs boson” particle, an elementary particle that has shed light on some of the world’s long-standing secrets. With the upgrades in magnets, stronger energy beams, and tighter vacuums, the LHC will now be able to hold 13 TEV.

CERN believes that their equipment is more than capable of holding the energy that is going to be released by crashing protons together, but when entering into a field of unknowns there is no way for the people of CERN to be 100 percent certain. This is why CERN opted to take on the challenge of holding back 13 TEV, instead of taking the LHC to its current maximum of 14 TEV. This is being done so as to have more control over the possible malfunctions that could manifest themselves. By taking this delicate process step by step, CERN is taking every precautionary step possible.

While scientists now believe that “dark matter” is what comprises over 85 percent of the known Universe, dark matter is still just a hypothesis. This is because dark matter is not something that can be seen, but is detectable based on the effects seen gravitationally on visible matter and radiation, not to mention the basic structure of our Universe. “Regular” matter is what stars, planets, and other tangible matter consist of. This regular matter only comprises four percent of what makes the Universe. To put it in other words, almost all of what constitutes “reality” is still unknown to even the brightest of minds. Considering this, virtually any take on “what is reality” is a possibility. This Universe may just be a program as depicted in The Matrix Trilogy, or just one plane of existence with thousands more just beyond the veil of this physical life.

CERN’s primary goal in once again firing up their LHC is to hopefully identify what they consider to be dark matter. Dr. Mike Lamont says, “The physicists here at CERN hope that with the step up from eight TEV to 13 TEV, we will be able to explore a bit more of parameter space and that something all together brand new will show up.” Dr Lamont goes on to admit that they are dealing with a vast amount of raw power when using the LHC, and that, “Because of this we have to be very careful with it.” While scientists are anxious to see what will come of this latest LHC experiment, some are more fearful than others, such as Dr. Hawking.

Whether Dr. Hawking’s warning proves to be accurate is yet to be seen, but if there is one thing for sure it is that the possible results of the CERN research could be groundbreaking. While scientists at CERN are trying not to get their hopes up, they feel that winning a Nobel prize is not out of the question. CERN has plans to continue to upgrade their LHC for decades, testing new capabilities every few years.

By Benjamin Johnson

http://guardianlv.com/2015/03/cern-playing-with-fire/



T.H.  That's the metaphysical side if that is interesting of why we are trying to do it! Because they believe that we are surrounded by other realities that we can see is having an effect on matter as we see it is having a gravitational effect.  We can see it's there - but it's invisible and we can't actually see it.

NOTE FROM DEE:  HAVING STUDIED METAPHYSICS SINCE 1981 FORMALLY, AND 1969 ON MY OWN, I CAN TELL YOU THAT IT DOESN'T MATTER IF CEERN BURTS A PROTON IN THE PHYSICAL, THE SPIRIT WORLDS ARE THERE ALWAYS, BOTH NASTY AND GOOD SIDES AND IN THE SPIRIT WORLD, THE BAD SIDE WILL DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO WHETHER WE BURST A PROTON OR NOT!  IT'S ONLY THE GOOD SIDE WHICH WAITS TO BE ASKED TO RESPOND.  THE FACT THAT WE ARE MESSING WITH PROTONS AND BURSTING THEM DOES NOT OPEN A DOORWAY - THAT DOORWAY IS ALWAYS OPEN TO THOSE WHO WANT TO LOOK INTO IT.  IT'S NOT ME, BUT I CAN ASSURE YOU, THE BAD PEOPLE THAT ARE INTO THE METAPHYSICAL DON'T NEED CERN TO OPEN A DOORWAY.  THAT DOORWAY HAS ALWAYS BEEN OPENABLE TO THOSE WITH THE METAPHYSICAL KEYS.

T.H.  (HE IS HOLDING UP A BIBLE)  But now, take this book and try to explain this to them. There is a lot there.  There is a dark world out there in an invisible world - but there are doorways that God closed.

At the fall of man - for our protection - he closed our perception off to an awful lot of what is going on -  well - Adam and Eve walked with God - but we don't do that now - we basically rely on the angels and our common sense, the WORD of God and prayer and whatever to:

Psalm 37:23  The steps of a good man are ordered by the Lord and he delighted in his way.

He could be ordered by the Lord on a daily basis.  If our eyes were open, we'd see what is hiding down there beneath the earth.

We'd see what is hiding in Rev. 9:  1-11 
The 5th Trumpet:  The Locusts from the bottomless pit.

9 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.

2 And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.

3 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.

4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.

5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.

6 And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.

7 And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men.

8 And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions.

9 And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle.

10 And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months.

11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.


T.H.  The Euphrates river where the Islamic Nation believes their Messiah is hiding where the gatewway is in the earth and they are trying to get him out of there. And those angels are going to come up out.

A messiah (literally, "anointed one") has come to be seen as a saviour or liberator of a group of people, most commonly in theAbrahamic religions. In the Hebrew Bible, a Hebrew: מָשִׁיחַ, Modern mashiaẖ, Tiberian māšîăḥ ("messiah") is a king or High Priesttraditionally anointed with holy anointing oil. However, anointed ones ("messiahs") were not exclusively Jewish, as the Hebrew Bible refers to Cyrus the Great, king of Persia, as a messiah for his decree to rebuild the Jerusalem Temple.

The concept of messianism originated in Judaism. According to Jewish tradition, the Jewish Messiah, HaMashiach ( המשיח , "the Messiah", "the anointed one"), often referred to as "King Messiah" (מלך המשיח, melekh mashiach), is plainly distinct from the concept of a divine Christian Messiah or any other concept of a messiah in other Abrahamic religions, especially the Islamic.The future Jewish Messiah to come is thought to be a human leader, physically descended from the paternal Davidic line throughKing David and King Solomon. He is thought to accomplish predetermined things in only one future arrival, including the unification of the tribes of Israel, the gathering in of all Jews to Eretz Israel, the rebuilding of the Temple in Jerusalem, the ushering in of a Messianic Age of global universal peace, and the annunciation of the World to Come.

The translation of the Hebrew word מָשִׁיחַ mašíaḥ as Χριστός (Khristós, from whence the term Christ comes) in the Greek Septuagint became the accepted Christian designation and title of Jesus of Nazareth. Christians believe that messianic prophecies in the Christian Old Testament (especially Isaiah) refer to a spiritual savior and believe that Jesus was the Christian Messiah (Khristós, "Christ").

Islamic tradition holds that Jesus, the son of Mary, was a Prophet and the Masîḥ (مسيح) (messiah) sent to the Israelites, and that he will return to Earth at the end of times, along with the Mahdi, and defeat al-Masih ad-Dajjal, the "false Messiah" or Antichrist.

FROM: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messiah


T.H. The doors that God closed - it came to me the other day!  I've never heard anybody ever say this before.  Never heard it before!  I'm prayingand reading the Book of Revelation.  I'm wanting to know what is going on here.  I don't know how many times I've read Revelation 9.

The gates start opening.  The angels come up from the Euphrates.  A star comes down from Heaven with a key to open up the bottomless pit.  And this horrific transgender monstrosity comes up out of the earth.  (They are in the earth right now)  They are behind that gateway right now.

The moment that is part of our future ... and here is what got me.  I read this again the other day.  It's torturing rebellious mankind ....

Rev  9:21  Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their pornification, nor of their thefts.

Get the word Sorceries!

Sorcery in Greek in PHARMAKERA - which is magic, sorcery, enchantment - the mix of science for sorcerous reasons.

Pharmakera is a methodoly to circumvent God to open the doorways of the supernatural - (uses potions or drugs to open the mind to put yourself in contact with what is beyond the gate)

THE WITCH OF ENDOR

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1 Samuel 1New International Version (NIV)

The Birth of Samuel

1 There was a certain man from Ramathaim, a Zuphite[a] from the hill countryof Ephraim, whose name was Elkanah son of Jeroham, the son of Elihu, the son of Tohu, the son of Zuph, an Ephraimite. 2 He had two wives; one was called Hannah and the other Peninnah. Peninnah had children, but Hannah had none.

3 Year after year this man went up from his town to worship and sacrifice to theLord Almighty at Shiloh, where Hophni and Phinehas, the two sons of Eli, were priests of the Lord. 4 Whenever the day came for Elkanah to sacrifice, he would give portions of the meat to his wife Peninnah and to all her sons and daughters. 5 But to Hannah he gave a double portion because he loved her, and the Lord had closed her womb. 6 Because the Lord had closed Hannah’s womb, her rival kept provoking her in order to irritate her. 7 This went on year after year. Whenever Hannah went up to the house of the Lord, her rival provoked her till she wept and would not eat. 8 Her husband Elkanah would say to her, “Hannah, why are you weeping? Why don’t you eat? Why are you downhearted? Don’t I mean more to you than ten sons?”

9 Once when they had finished eating and drinking in Shiloh, Hannah stood up. Now Eli the priest was sitting on his chair by the doorpost of the Lord’s house.10 In her deep anguish Hannah prayed to the Lord, weeping bitterly. 11 And she made a vow, saying, “Lord Almighty, if you will only look on your servant’s misery and remember me, and not forget your servant but give her a son, then I will give him to the Lord for all the days of his life, and no razor will ever be used on his head.”

12 As she kept on praying to the Lord, Eli observed her mouth. 13 Hannah was praying in her heart, and her lips were moving but her voice was not heard. Eli thought she was drunk 14 and said to her, “How long are you going to stay drunk? Put away your wine.”

15 “Not so, my lord,” Hannah replied, “I am a woman who is deeply troubled. I have not been drinking wine or beer; I was pouring out my soul to the Lord.16 Do not take your servant for a wicked woman; I have been praying here out of my great anguish and grief.”

17 Eli answered, “Go in peace, and may the God of Israel grant you what you have asked of him.”

18 She said, “May your servant find favor in your eyes.” Then she went her way and ate something, and her face was no longer downcast.

19 Early the next morning they arose and worshiped before the Lord and then went back to their home at Ramah. Elkanah made love to his wife Hannah, and the Lord remembered her. 20 So in the course of time Hannah became pregnant and gave birth to a son. She named him Samuel,[b] saying, “Because I asked the Lord for him.”

Hannah Dedicates Samuel

21 When her husband Elkanah went up with all his family to offer the annualsacrifice to the Lord and to fulfill his vow, 22 Hannah did not go. She said to her husband, “After the boy is weaned, I will take him and present him before theLord, and he will live there always.”[c]

23 “Do what seems best to you,” her husband Elkanah told her. “Stay here until you have weaned him; only may the Lord make good his[d] word.” So the woman stayed at home and nursed her son until she had weaned him.

24 After he was weaned, she took the boy with her, young as he was, along with a three-year-old bull,[e] an ephah[f] of flour and a skin of wine, and brought him to the house of the Lord at Shiloh. 25 When the bull had been sacrificed, they brought the boy to Eli, 26 and she said to him, “Pardon me, my lord. As surely as you live, I am the woman who stood here beside you praying to the Lord.27 I prayed for this child, and the Lord has granted me what I asked of him.28 So now I give him to the Lord. For his whole life he will be given over to theLord.” And he worshiped the Lord there.

Footnotes:

  1. 1 Samuel 1:1 See Septuagint and 1 Chron. 6:26-27,33-35; or from Ramathaim Zuphim.
  2. 1 Samuel 1:20 Samuel sounds like the Hebrew for heard by God.
  3. 1 Samuel 1:22 Masoretic Text; Dead Sea Scrolls always. I have dedicated him as a Nazirite—all the days of his life.”
  4. 1 Samuel 1:23 Masoretic Text; Dead Sea Scrolls, Septuagint and Syriac your
  5. 1 Samuel 1:24 Dead Sea Scrolls, Septuagint and Syriac; Masoretic Text with three bulls
  6. 1 Samuel 1:24 That is, probably about 36 pounds or about 16 kilograms
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1 Samuel 28

Without doubt, this is one of the most mysterious and difficult chapters in the Bible to deal with. Samuel was dead and buried (1 Samuel 28:3), yet he reappeared to seal Saul’s doom. Here is a startling record unparalleled in the creations of the greatest masters of fiction. Lord Byron said of the narrative of the Witch of Endor—

I have always thought this the finest and most finished witch scene that ever was written or conceived, and you will be of my opinion if you consider all the circumstances of the actors of the case, together with the gravity, simplicity and density of the language. It beats all the ghost scenes I have ever read.

The actors of the cast are Saul the king, the witch, and Samuel the prophet—surely a most unusual trio! Saul about to join the dead; the Witch and her traffic with the dead; Samuel, brought back from the dead.

Saul—About to Join the Dead

In God’s portrait gallery there is no more tragic figure than Saul, the son of Kish who, in his early days was “the glory of Israel.” What physique and personality were his! Physically and morally he was head and shoulders above his fellowmen, and when anointed by Samuel as the first king of Israel, the people had high hopes of his prosperous reign. But corrupted by power, sin and murder and jealousy reduced this wonderful specimen of a man to a physical and spiritual wreck. At last, facing the hosts of Philistines, Israel’s ancient foes, Saul was scared and felt that his hour of retribution was near and that unless help came from God he must perish. But he cried to heaven in vain for God would not answer the doomed ruler “by Urim, by prophets, or by dreams.” Driven by despair, Saul sought the ghost of the prophet who by his prudence and piety had prevented the ruin of Israel during Saul’s reign.

Like a drowning man trying to clutch a straw, Saul came to countenance what he had so strongly condemned. He had issued orders that all who seek to traffic with the dead should be destroyed. “Saul had put away those that had familiar spirits, and the wizards, out of the land.” But what fearful pathos there is about Saul driven by despair, hastening to consult “the crooked crone who peeped and muttered in the caves on the height of Endor.” As he looked at the huge camp of the Philistines “he was afraid, and his heart trembled greatly,” and his fear was a premonition of his approaching doom. Although full of dread, there was no sign of repentance in Saul and thus when he cried to the Lord, “the Lord answered him not.” By his dark sins he had severed himself from all divine influences, and as a last desperate resort disguised himself in the garb of a common soldier. He then leaves God to consult a witch for any ray of hope she may be able to bring about by producing the departed spirit of Samuel whose past counsel Saul had spurned.

The Witch—Traffic With the Dead

Jewish tradition affirms that the nameless spiritualist medium was the mother of the great Abner. Whether this is true or not, certainly this witch of Endor has a distinction all her own in that she had a king of Israel for a consulter, and a prophet of God for an apparition. This well-known female at Endor, introduced to Saul by his servants, had a “familiar spirit,” that is, the supposed possession of a gift to induce or compel a departed spirit to revisit the world and submit to questioning. This aspect of the “black arts” was one of the things the Israelites copied from the original inhabitants of Canaan but the Mosaic command respecting those who practiced these arts is clear and decisive: “Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live” (Exodus 22:18; Leviticus 20:27).

The manifold shapes of witchcraft had prevailed among the people and is given under a variety of names as “enchantments,” “sorceries,” “familiar spirit,” “wizard,” “observer of times,” “dreamer of dreams,” “diviners,” “charmers,” “necromancers,” or “consulters of the dead.” The New Testament speaks of “seducers,” “seducing spirits,” “unclean spirits, working miracles,” all of which are associated with arts of the devil. Those having intercourse with the unseen world were put to death, and all who sought the offices of such people were defiled (Leviticus 19:31). Idle curiosity and concern in the unseen world leading to a sinful interest in trifling with matters so awful was strictly forbidden (Deuteronomy 12:30-32). The Witch of Endor knew that the practice of dark arts was a capital offense still punishable by death. Thus she told Saul—although her professed power to contact the other world did not include the ability to recognize Saul in his disguise—that a snare was being laid to expose and kill her as the law demanded. But assured by Saul’s oath that nothing would happen to her, she asked him whom he wanted to have reappear from the dead.

Although this woman was a witch—the equivalent to a female medium in present day Spiritism or Spiritualism—yet the Bible does not depict her as a despicable character. Hers was not the gamut of illusions and tricks often practiced in séances. She actually indulged in forbidden communication with the unseen world of spirits. No obvious deceit was hers, and natural, feminine virtues were still prominent, for when she discovered Saul’s identity and heard Samuel pronounce his doom, she tried to assist and comfort the distracted king prostrate on the ground before her after hearing of his fate. She demonstrated her sympathy for Saul by having his servants lay him on her own bed, and insisting that he eat, prepared an abundant meal for him and his servants. Yet in spite of her good points, she had sold herself to Satan. One wonders what level of spiritual achievement she might have attained had she wholly followed the Lord instead of her black art.

Samuel—Back From the Dead

How those with spiritualistic tendencies take shelter in this episode of the apparent recall of Samuel from the dead! It is advanced as Biblical proof for the clairvoyance. But modern Spiritualism, which is merely a rehash of the Israelitish abomination, is spiritually and morally wrong, and still under divine condemnation seeing the Mosaic law against it has never been abrogated—even though witches are no longer burned. The question we now face is, Did God work through a spiritualistic medium, and through a witch satisfy Saul’s request? Was it actually Samuel who appeared? Having sternly forbidden any traffic with witches, did God deign to use what He had condemned?

On the genuine appearance of the departed Samuel there has always been a great diversity of opinion. Some commentators believe that his supposed appearance was a deception practiced by the witch and was most effective with Saul because of his distraught, nervous and excited condition. Others say that it was an evil spirit who impersonated Samuel, or that it was a phantasm or semblance of the prophet that appeared, even as the figure of a man we have known may appear to us in a dream or vision, and not the man himself. Satan and his ministers are able to transform themselves into the appearance of angels of light, and they may also have represented the saintly prophet. But what are the actual facts of the case?

Saul said to the witch, “Bring me up Samuel,” and the issue is plainly stated, “The woman saw Samuel.” “Then said Samuel,” and “Saul was sore afraid, because of the words of Samuel.” The woman described the God-like, majestic and mantled form she saw, and Saul perceived that it was Samuel. Thus by some “hidden dispensation of the divine will, the prophet allowed himself to be thus made use of,” says St. Augustine, “even as our Lord Himself in the days of His humiliation submitted to be taken by Satan, and set by him on the pinnacle of the Temple.” It has been suggested that Samuel was sent by God to the consternation of the witch herself as she was about to have recourse to her usual arts; thus God Himself intervened to answer Saul by the prophet Samuel.

Further, the overpowering effect the apparition had upon Saul, the rebuke he received, and the prophecy of his death and of his sons the next day, all imply the reality and genuineness of Samuel’s appearance. Evil spirits are not permitted to forestall God’s decrees, thus no witch was able to make the prediction Samuel did. We therefore believe that as God allowed Moses and Elias to return to comfort Christ in view of His cross (Matthew 17), so He allowed Samuel to return to warn Saul of his doom. Bishop Wordsworth explains what happened in that cave at Endor in this way—

God designed that the spirit of Samuel should be recognized by human eyes and how could this have been done but by means of such objects as are visible to human sense? Our Lord speaks of the tongue of the disembodied spirit of Dives in order to give us an idea of his suffering; and at the Transfiguration He presented the form of Moses in such a garb to the three disciples as might enable them to recognize him as Moses.

As Samuel appeared, Saul told his woeful tale, but was reminded that God could do nothing for him because of his blatant sins. The prophet reminded the king of his past wickedness and its effects upon the nation, and then heard the solemn announcement: “Tomorrow shalt thou and thy sons be with me,” and this sentence of death was executed on Mount Gilboa. Yet it would seem as if mercy rejoiced over divine judgment for note well what Samuel said, “Tomorrow shalt thou ... be with me.” Where was Samuel in the unseen world? Not in the realms of eternal woe that is sure. As the Saviour said to the dying thief, “To day shalt thou be with me in paradise,” so to the stricken, and it may be, now fully repentant Saul there came the message, “Thou and thy sons shall be with me.” Tomorrow with Samuel in the abode of bliss! What a comforting thought that must have been for Saul’s troubled heart! Charles Wesley asked—

What do these solemn words portend?

A ray of hope when life shall end.

Thou and thy sons, though slain, shall be

Tomorrow in repose with me.

Not in a state of hellish pain,

If Saul with Samuel do remain.

Not in a state of damned despair,

If loving Jonathan be there.

Our God is One who delights in mercy, and the gospel hymn states it—

Whilst the lamp holds out to burn

The vilest sinner may return.

Hardened, reprobate, and self-condemned as Saul was, if on that dark night in the witch’s cave he heard God’s voice as Samuel spoke, and on that last day of his life flung himself upon divine mercy, then his end was not one of unrelieved gloom. We would like to believe that ere Saul went out to be slain in battle, he set the house of his heart in order. Augustine wrote that Samuel’s word “Shalt thou be with me” does not refer to an equality in bliss, but to a like condition of death. Samuel himself was very much alive, although his body was in the graveyard at Ramah. If Samuel had said to Saul, “Tomorrow thou shalt be among the damned,” that would have crushed him completely, and likely hardened him to his impenitence. By using the gentler expression, with me, Samuel mildly exhorted Saul to repentance even at the end of a somewhat tragic life.

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T.H  In the New Testament, Paul is walking through Macedonia and he meets a priestess of Apollo who had a spirit of divination.  She practiced Pharmakea - a drug enhanced state in order to go through and activate gateways.

NOTE:  They had been told by the Holy spirit not to preach there.

Acts 16-24 

Paul and Silas Imprisoned

16 Now it happened, as we went to prayer, that a certain slave girl possessed with a spirit of divination met us, who brought her masters much profit by fortune-telling. 17 This girl followed Paul and us, and cried out, saying, “These men are the servants of the Most High God, who proclaim to us the way of salvation.” 18 And this she did for many days.

But Paul, greatly annoyed, turned and said to the spirit, “I command you in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her.” And he came out that very hour.19 But when her masters saw that their hope of profit was gone, they seized Paul and Silas and dragged them into the marketplace to the authorities.

20 And they brought them to the magistrates, and said, “These men, being Jews, exceedingly trouble our city; 21 and they teach customs which are not lawful for us, being Romans, to receive or observe.” 22 Then the multitude rose up together against them; and the magistrates tore off their clothes and commanded them to be beaten with rods. 23 And when they had laid many stripes on them, they threw them into prison, commanding the jailer to keep them securely. 24 Having received such a charge, he put them into the inner prison and fastened their feet in the stocks.

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