VISIONS:

I saw a road with a farm field next to it and two teenager boys walking in the field.

I saw these words:  ZETA RETICULI STAR SYSTEM with a big orb on the upper right.

I then saw a computer web page url that ended STOP_SATAN.htm

http://www.nicap.dabsol.co.uk/hillmap.htm

http://www.gravitywarpdrive.com/Zeta_Reticuli_Incident.htm

The Betty Hill Star Map Controversy:  http://www.hillwilsonstarmap.com/

The two stars, Zeta 1 and Zeta 2, are located in the southern constellation of Reticulum (the net) and are thus never visible to most of the northern hemisphere. Both are classed as old disk population II stars whose age is between six to eight billion years. There is every indication that both had a common origin and are part of a relatively near-by old moving group (or loose cluster) of stars which was first defined in 1958 and is known as the Zeta Hercules group. Zeta 1 Reticuli is separated from Zeta 2 Reticuli by at least 350 billion miles or about 100 times the Sun-Pluto distance. They may be even farther apart but, as just mentioned above, the available observations suggest they are moving through space together and are therefore physically associated. They probably require at least a 100,000 years to orbit around their common center of gravity.

Star      M[.sini]            Semi-maj.      Period       Ecc.       Inclin.       Radius 
            Jup. mass:(J)    Axis (AU)       years(y)                   (deg)       (Earth 
            Earth mass:(E)                        days(d)                                     rad.) 
(note 1) 

zeta2      Ret 0.27(J)     0.14               18.9 (d)       0.            -               - 
11 pc 
G1V 
V = 5.24

Now this big quarter of a Jupiter mass planet is in an orbit about Zeta 2 Reticuli which lasts 18.9 days and has a semi-major axis of 0.14 Astronomical Units. For comparison Mercury has a semi-major axis of 0.39 Astronomical Units (AU) [1.00 Astronomical Units = the distance of between the earth and the sun, about 93 million miles). Now assuming that this newly discovered planet is the closest one to Zeta 2 Ret (it's hard to imagine a closer one) then following Bode's Law (the law which states each planet is about twice the distance from it's sun as its inner neighbour) Reticulum 2 should be at 0.28 AU, Reticulum 3 should be at 0.56 AU and INTERESTINGLY Reticulum 4 would be at 1.12 AU in between the Earth's 1.00 AU and Mars's 1.52 AU, well within the lifezone of a G class star! Source : Joe LeSesne, E-mail : raver187@m-net.arbornet.org

Alleged ‘Project’ sent U.S. military team to another planet?

Hi Bill,

Good points, I would see propositions 2 or 3 for Anon as the most likely.
As for Strawberry ice cream? See, http://www.ufoconspiracy.com/reports/strawberries_boost_performance.htm

And, yes, you're right, they can manipulate space-time but not for time travel as you mentioned. It's been a hypothesis by some I've talk to that the Aliens are able speed time up or down using a Space-time bubble which is why they can go through walls and windows as reported. This is not NEW Physics. It is the ability to manipulate the laws of Physics. Many people see this manipulation as some new law which it isn't....Have a nice one.....Robert C

Bill Ryan wrote:

Nearly 50 years ago, Eric Frank Russell wrote “Allamagoosa”, the funniest science fiction short story it’s ever been my delight to read. In this exquisite little tale, the captain of a space cruiser is notified that there is to be a mandatory routine inventory inspection. It’s a hassle, but he must comply. After days of work, everything is accounted for except for one item, which reads simply: “offog, one”.

No-one can explain the offog and no-one has a clue what it is. Fearful of admitting to his superiors that the item has been lost, he fabricates a little white lie that he’s awfully sorry, but the offog had disintegrated in a hyperspace jump. The story ends with the captain staring at an urgent telex recalling every ship in the galactic fleet – at a cost of trillions of dollars – pending an investigation into the disintegration of the ship’s official dog.

So what’s a “DIN”? Here is another “gross consistency”. It rings true that Anon reports this faithfully but does not know what it is. Neither do I: I’ve been staring at my keyboard looking at every combination of typos (like the offog), to no avail. It may well be an acronym – but what for? Maybe the ex-military list members might guess what it is. Furthermore, we need to know if it’s a D.I.N., DIN, a Din, or a din. Can Anon clarify?

Here’s one more.

In Dan Sherman’s book, “Above Black”, in which he reveals how he was groomed and trained as a telepathic communicator with a race of ETs whom he received information from and about but never actually met, Sherman states that he learned that 'time' – as we humans know it – does not have the same meaning for "them". They still age as we do but are not bound by the physics of time as we currently are. Their means of travel across vast distances is heavily dependent on the manipulation of time but not as we perceive it.

Sherman asked if they can travel through time: e.g., can they go backward-or-forward in time? He was told that it was not possible to witness a reality that occurred in some other time but the present. In order to go back in time, one must assume that there exists a reference point from which to measure backward or forward. This is an impossibility. Essentially, they weren't able to travel through time but around time and from time. Sherman says he never really understood what this meant. Their mode of propulsion was somehow that they used “time" and electromagnetic energy. Also they said that our sun was very unique; and that someday we would understand how it really worked and how we could utilize the same methods that they themselves use but on a smaller scale.

(references: http://www.stealthskater.com/Documents/Sherman_1.doc, http://www.aboveblack.com%29/

There are other candidates for “gross consistencies”, but I’ll keep my powder dry for the moment. I’m noting them carefully. The problem, of course, with these is that they might also be reasons to dismiss everything. It’s like strawberry ice cream. I lean to thinking that (like the anomalous orbital data) that’s so absurd it has to be true, because no-one would dare invent it. The false information component of disinformation has to be credible for the purpose of the disinformation to be achieved.

Logically there are four possibilities:
1)  Anon is a pathological prankster and the reported data is either all invented or clumsily culled from other sources and added to a wild novelistic story.
2)  Anon is operating to an agenda and the information is deliberately distorted, but contains a core of extraordinary truth.
3)  Anon is doing his best to report data from an indirect source (personal notes, his own short or long term memory, or another person), but accidental errors, omissions and additions have occurred.
4)  Anon is reporting everything faithfully and accurately as best he can present it.

Only possibility (1) means everything should be rejected. The other three necessarily mean that the story deserves close attention. Victor/Anon, keep it all coming.

Best wishes to all – Bill


~~~~~~~

Enilil and Enki (Stargate)  is only the story of Gilgamesh, the Sumerian epic rehashed. 'According to Sumerian texts' is to
misrepresent the situation.
Kelly

  I beg to dream and differ from the hollow lies 
  This is the dawning of the rest of our lives
-Holiday, Green Day
('This song isn't anti-American, it's anti-WAR')

On Nov 21, 2005, at 11:14 AM, Dee777@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 11/21/2005 5:03:29 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> bill.ryan@virgin.net writes:
>> So what’s a “DIN”? Here is another “gross consistency”. It rings true that Anon reports this faithfully but does not know what it is.
>> Neither do I: I’ve been staring at my keyboard looking at every combination of typos (like the offog), to no avail. It may well be an
>> acronym – but what for? Maybe the ex-military list members might guess what it is. Furthermore, we need to know if it’s a D.I.N., >>DIN, a Din, or a din. Can Anon clarify? E.din, Land of Righteousness In ancient E.din we find our creation, our Creator. Through >>the calendar of Appointed Time at Giza the ancients gave us the addressees of a message, ...
>> www.edinnet.com/
>  
> The Real Story Behind The Movie Stargate. 2
> Sitchin's book called "The Twelfth Planet" tells about this. ... E.DIN was Enlil's domain and contained a spaceport that shipped the gold to a permanent ...
> www.think-aboutit.com/Spiritual/ real_story_behind_the_movie_star2.htm
>  
> The Cosmic Code - Hidden Mysteries
> ... recorded the even in the tale of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden (the Sumerian E.DIN), ... author: Zecharia Sitchin. paperback
> Price: $7.99+shipping ...
> www.hiddenmysteries.com/item200/item244.html
>  
> Adam and Eve
> After a long period of time (Sitchin reckons the date as 300000 BCE),  According to the Sumerian texts, Enlil created an E.DIN, a special place where new ...
> www.halexandria.org/dward191.htm
>  
> Dee

~~~~~~~~

For what's it worth. Origin of the word SERPO.

 

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Sarpa (Sanskrit) [from the verbal root srip to wriggle, creep, crawl] Serpent; the serpent has ever symbolized in occultism wisdom, immortality -- therefore renewed birth -- and secret knowledge; hence sarpa is applied to an initiate, as is naga (Sanskrit serpent). "There is a notable difference esoterically between the words Sarpa and Naga, though they are both used indiscriminately. Sarpa (serpent) is from the root Srip, serpo serpo to creep; and they are called 'Ahi,' from Ha, to abandon. 'The sarpa was produced from Brahma's hair, which, owing to his fright at beholding the Yakshas, whom he had created horrible to behold, fell off from the head, each hair becoming a serpent. They are called Sarpa from their creeping and Ahi because they had deserted the head' (Wilson). But the Nagas, their serpent's tail notwithstanding, do not creep, but manage to walk, run and fight in the allegories" (SD 2:181-2n).

 

Sarpa was the original Sanskrit term for a snake or serpent, whereas naga, although likewise signifying a snake or serpent -- which it does consistently throughout the range of Sanskrit literature -- nevertheless early became identified in mystical thought with initiates because of their power of casting off physical body after physical body almost at will. Both terms therefore signify serpent or snake, and both later were used almost indiscriminately to signify initiates; nevertheless, because of habit or use, naga is the more common term for a full initiate, sarpa in this sense being of less frequent usage.

 

Just as the forces of nature are in themselves neutral, and become "good" or "bad" as they are used by individuals, similarly so is a symbol usable in a good or a bad sense. In the use of nagas and sarpas, the Brothers of Light are properly called nagas, and the Brothers of Darkness are more properly called sarpas, as the root srip which means to wriggle, hence to insinuate, to creep in by stealth and deceive. Both the Brothers of Light and of Darkness are focuses of power, subtlety, wisdom, and knowledge; in the one case rightly and nobly applied, and in the other wrongly applied. The former are the nagas or serpents of light: subtle, wise, and with power to cast off the garment or vehicle when the body has grown old and to assume another at will. The latter are more strictly the sarpas or serpents of darkness, insinuating, worldly wise, selfishly shrewd, deceitful, venomous, and dangerous, and yet possessing the same powers, but in less degree, and using them wrongly, thus deceiving human hearts and succeeding in their work often by lies and misrepresentations. Nevertheless, precisely because nagas and sarpas are used almost indiscriminately, either word may apply both to the servants of light or of darkness.

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Subject: Re: Allamagoosa (and Dan Sherman)

In a message dated 11/21/2005 5:03:29 AM Pacific Standard Time, bill.ryan@virgin.net writes:

So what’s a “DIN”? Here is another “gross consistency”. It rings true that Anon reports this faithfully but does not know what it is. Neither do I: I’ve been staring at my keyboard looking at every combination of typos (like the offog), to no avail. It may well be an acronym – but what for? Maybe the ex-military list members might guess what it is. Furthermore, we need to know if it’s a D.I.N., DIN, a Din, or a din. Can Anon clarify?

E.din, Land of Righteousness

In ancient E.din we find our creation, our Creator. Through the calendar of Appointed Time at Giza the ancients gave us the addressees of a message, ... www.edinnet.com/

 

The Real Story Behind The Movie Stargate. 2

Sitchin's book called "The Twelfth Planet" tells about this. ... E.DIN was Enlil's domain and contained a spaceport that shipped the gold to a permanent ... www.think-aboutit.com/Spiritual/ real_story_behind_the_movie_star2.htm

 

The Cosmic Code - Hidden Mysteries

... recorded the even in the tale of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden (the Sumerian E.DIN), ... author: Zecharia Sitchin. paperback Price: $7.99+shipping ... www.hiddenmysteries.com/item200/item244.html

 

Adam and Eve

After a long period of time (Sitchin reckons the date as 300000 BCE), ... According to the Sumerian texts, Enlil created an E.DIN, a special place where new ... www.halexandria.org/dward191.htm   Dee

12-16-05

Best wishes, Bill Ryan

Section 3.4 of EO 12958
http://uploads.abovetopsecret.com/ats27876_EO_S34.jpg

President Clinton signed EO 12958 on April 17, 1995.  The effective date of the Order was set to be 180 days from the date which 
he issued the order.  That means that certain documents were declassified, by Presidential proclamation, early in October, 2000.  
Thereafter, many documents because declassified by proclamation on the 25th anniversary of their classification.

Of course, during that 180 days between the signing of the order and its effective date, each agency head was supposed to inform 
the president's office of any exempted file "series".  This is done through the Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs.  
Interestingly, it was Eisenhower (who was President at the time much of Project Serpo is alleged to have occurred) that created 
this position. http://www.whitehouse.gov/nsc/hadleybio.html Stephen J. Hadley now serves in that capacity for President Bush, 
taking over for Condoleeza Rice earlier this year.

The staff of the National Security Council is de jure an element of the Executive Office of the President, but de facto is a central
element of the White House staff itself. President Eisenhower created a new position to head that staff: the assistant to the 
President for national security affairs; every President since has continued that office and strengthened the staff. The twenty 
senior-most NSC officers have presidential titles and rank;  the total staff now numbers nearly two hundred, many of them 
detailees from State, Defense, and CIA. http://www.americanpresident.org/action/national_security

Ok, so what you ask?  I'm glad you asked!

"Project SERPO's" final report was written in 1980 http://www.serpo.org/information.html#5

So... just this year, the Project Serpo documents, if true as alleged, turned 25 years old and became the subject of automatic 
declassification.  In other words, unless the Head of the DIA (the presumed holder of these documents) has identified the Project 
Serpo files (assuming they exist) as being exempt from declassification, then they have already been automatically declassified.

In other words, http://www.navy.mil/navydata/bios/bio.asp?bioID=154 Lowell E. Jacoby, the Director of the DIA, had to identify 
the files that were exempted from automatic declassification and then make a statement to the National Security Council explaining 
that the exempted material fell under an exemption to EO 12958 pursuant to section. 3.4.  Information that meets the following 
conditions may be exempted from declassification, unless the President orders otherwise (the president can order that the material
 be declassified):

(1) reveal the identity of a confidential human source, or reveal information about the application of an intelligence source or 
method, or reveal the identity of a human intelligence source when the unauthorized disclosure of that source would clearly 
and demonstrably damage the national security interests of the United States;

(2) reveal information that would assist in the development or use of weapons of mass destruction;

(3) reveal information that would impair U.S. cryptologic systems or activities;

(4) reveal information that would impair the application of state of the art technology within a U.S. weapon system;

(5) reveal actual U.S. military war plans that remain in effect;

(6) reveal information that would seriously and demonstrably impair relations between the United States and a foreign 
government, or seriously and demonstrably undermine ongoing diplomatic activities of the United States;

(7) reveal information that would clearly and demonstrably impair the current ability of United States Government officials 
to protect the President, Vice President, and other officials for whom protection services, in the interest of national security, 
are authorized;

(8) reveal information that would seriously and demonstrably impair current national security emergency preparedness plans; 
or

(9) violate a statute, treaty, or international agreement.

Sec. 3.1. Definitions. For purposes of this order: (a) "Declassification" means the authorized change in the status of information
from classified information to unclassified information.

(b) "Automatic declassification" means the declassification of information based solely upon:

(1) the occurrence of a specific date or event as determined by the original classification authority; or
(2) the expiration of a maximum time frame for duration of classification established under this order.

(c) "Declassification authority" means:

(1) the official who authorized the original classification, if that official is still serving in the same position;
(2) the originator's current successor in function;

(3) a supervisory official of either; or

(4) officials delegated declassification authority in writing by the agency head or the senior agency official.+

Sec. 1.5. Classification Categories.

Information may not be considered for classification unless it concerns:

(a) military plans, weapons systems, or operations;
(b) foreign government information;
(c) intelligence activities (including special activities), intelligence sources or methods, or cryptology;
(d) foreign relations or foreign activities of the United States, including confidential sources;
(e) scientific, technological, or economic matters relating to the national security;
(f) United States Government programs for safeguarding nuclear materials or facilities; or
(g) vulnerabilities or capabilities of systems, installations, projects or plans relating to the national security.

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Bill,

I appreciate your comments, but they will still have to explain this:

The SERPO story is falsified from the beginning. Let us look at just a few of the statements in the light of our observational scientific knowledge as well as our theoretical knowledge that gives this story a ring of falsity. Why would they do this?

Quote:
There was a period of darkness, but not total darkness. The Eben planet is located within a solar system of the Zeta Recticular Star System [two 5th-magnitude yellow double stars, similar to our Sun located near the Large Magellanic Cloud]. The planet had two suns but their angles were small and allowed some darkness on the planet depending on one's location.

We have the system identified now, but the statement that it is located near the Large Magellanic Cloud must be by direction as it is no where in the vicinity of the LMC which is outside of our galaxy and a satellite thereof, but then...

Quote:
Statistics on the Eben planet was collected by our team. Here is the pertinent data for your UFO thread list:

Diameter: 7,218 miles
Mass: 5.06 x 1024
Distance from
Sun #1: 96.5 million miles
Sun #2: 91.4 million miles

Moons: 2
Surface gravity: 9.60m/s2
Rotation Periods: 43 hours
Orbit: 865 days
Tilt: 43 degrees
Temperature: Min: 43° / Max: 126°
Distance from Earth: 38.43 light years
Planet named by Team: SERPO
Nearest planet to SERPO: Named: OTTO
Distance: 88 million miles (colonized by Ebens with research base, but no natural inhabitants on planet)
Number of planets in Eben Solar System: Six
Nearest inhabited planet to SERPO:

Named: SILUS (SILUS is made up of creatures of various types, but no intelligent life forms. Ebens use the planet to mine minerals.)
Distance: 434 million miles

Zeta 2 Reticuli is a member of a wide double star system. Zeta 2 Reticuli and its companion star Zeta 1 Reticuli are at least 350 billion miles apart or about 100 times more distant than Pluto is to the Sun. They appear to be moving together through space and probably rotate around a common center every 100,000 years.

As you can see if you add the distance between the 2 suns of SERPO that it adds up to a little more that 180 million miles apart. The actual separation between Zeta 1 and Zeta 2 is a factor of about 1944.44X more than the SERPO figure. The real problem is how can a planet orbit between two suns that are so close to the planet, approximately in the same range as earth's sun is from earth?

Exact data that doesn't make scientific sense seems to undermine this story.
  As you say, we need proof and sensible data.

Bill Hamilton
AstroScience Research Network
http://www.astrosciences.info/
"I don't see the logic of rejecting data just because they seem incredible."
   Fred Hoyle
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Bill & Bill,

I brought that Zeta Reticuli issue up eons ago over the SERPO Story but 116 people complained. Anon is getting his info from an ex-government source so Anon doesn't really know if it's totally true other than the Core Story. That binary system fits perfectly but not with Zeta Reticuli. It also fits perfectly with those numerous pages of calculations that Carl Sagan supposedly did for an "N-Body" problem by hand mind you, no super computers in those days. Or, it may really have been Zeta Reticuli and they just threw in spurious information about a close binary, I really don't know what the intent was. As I mentioned before, I think the Anon SERPO information has spurious information in it but it makes perfect sense at other times. Why that "....." of a government official would do that I don't know if a credible release was really planned .....Robert C

By Dexxxa

http://www.newscientist.com/channel/fundamentals/mg18825305.800.html

IS STRING THEORY POSSIBLE? KEPLER's LAWS ARE NOT ALWAYS RIGHT!  WHY ARE PHYSICISTS TAKING THE IDEA OF MULTIPLE UNIVERSES SERIOUSLY NOW? STANFORD UNIVERSITY PROFESSOR LEONARD SUSSKIND WITH THE LATEST THINKING ON THIS CONTROVERSIAL AREA OF PHYSICS! –
NewScientist.com news service, 
Amanda Gefter, 
Sunday, 18 December 2005

First, there was the discovery in the past few years that inflation seems right. This theory that the universe expanded spectacularly in the first fraction of a second fits a lot of data. Inflation tells us that the universe is probably extremely big and necessarily diverse. On sufficiently big scales, and if inflation lasts long enough, this diversity will produce every possible universe. 

The same process that forged our universe in a big bang will happen over and over. The mathematics are rickety, but that's what inflation implies: a huge universe with patches that are very different from one another. The bottom line is that we no longer have any good reason to believe that our tiny patch of universe is representative of the whole thing.

Second was the discovery that the value of the cosmological constant -- the energy of empty space which contributes to the expansion rate of the universe -- seems absurdly improbable, and nothing in fundamental physics is able to explain why. I remember when Steven Weinberg first suggested that the cosmological constant might be anthropically determined -- that it has to be this way otherwise we would not be here to observe it. I was very impressed with the argument, but troubled by it.

Like everybody else, I thought the cosmological constant was probably zero -- meaning that all the quantum fluctuations that make up the vacuum energy cancel out, and gravity alone affects the expansion of the universe. It would be much easier to explain if they cancelled out to zero, rather than to nearly zero. The discovery that there is a non-zero cosmological constant changed everything. Still, those two things were not enough to tip the balance for me.

What finally convinced you?

The discovery in string theory of this large landscape of solutions, of different vacuums, which describe very different physical environments, tipped the scales for me. At first, string theorists thought there were about a million solutions. Thinking about Weinberg's argument and about the non-zero cosmological constant, I used to go around asking my mathematician friends: are you sure it's only a million? They all assured me it was the best bet.

But a million is not enough for anthropic explanations - the chances of one of the universes being suitable for life are still too small. When Joe Polchinski and Raphael Bousso wrote their paper in 2000 that revealed there are more like 10500 vacuums in string theory, that to me was the tipping point. The three things seemed to be coming together. I felt I couldn't ignore this possibility, so I wrote a paper saying so. The initial reaction was very hostile, but over the past couple of years people are taking it more seriously. They are worried that it might be true.

Steven Weinberg recently said that this is one of the great sea changes in fundamental science since Einstein, that it changes the nature of science itself. Is it such a radical change?

In a way it is very radical but in another way it isn't. The great ambition of physicists like myself was to explain why the laws of nature are just what they are. Why is the proton just about 1800 times heavier than the electron? Why do neutrinos exist? The great hope was that some deep mathematical principle would determine all the constants of nature, like Newton's constant.

But it seems increasingly likely that the constants of nature are more like the temperature of the Earth -- properties of our local environment that vary from place to place. Like the temperature, many of the constants have to be just so if intelligent life is to exist. So we live where life is possible.

For some physicists this idea is an incredible disappointment. Personally, I don't see it that way. I find it exciting to think that the universe may be much bigger, richer and full of variety than we ever expected. And it doesn't seem so incredibly philosophically radical to think that some things may be environmental.

In order to accept the idea that we live in a hospitable patch of a multiverse, must a physicist trade in that dream of a final theory?

Absolutely not. No more than when physicists discovered that the radii of planetary orbits were NOT determined by some elegant mathematical equation, or by KEPLER's idea of nested Platonic solids. We simply have to reassess which things will be universal consequences of the theory and which will be consequences of cosmic history and local conditions.

So even if you accept the multiverse and the idea that certain local physical laws are anthropically determined, you still need a unique
mega-theory to describe the whole multiverse? Surely it just pushes the question back?

Yes, absolutely. The bottom line is that we need to describe the whole thing, the whole universe or multiverse. It's a scientific question: is the universe on the largest scales big and diverse or is it homogeneous? We can hope to get an answer from string theory and we can hope to get some information from cosmology.

There is a philosophical objection called Popperism that people raise against the landscape idea. Popperism [after the philosopher Karl Popper] is the assertion that a scientific hypothesis has to be falsifiable, otherwise it's just metaphysics. Other worlds, alternative universes, things we can't see because they are beyond horizons, are in principle unfalsifiable and therefore metaphysical -- that's the objection. But the belief that the universe beyond our causal horizon is homogeneous is just as speculative and just as susceptible to the Popperazzi.

Could there be some kind of selection principle that will emerge and pick out one unique string theory and one unique universe?

Anything is possible. My friend David Gross hopes that no selection principle will be necessary because only one universe will prove to make sense mathematically, or something like that. But so far there is no evidence for this view. Even most of the hard-core adherents to the uniqueness view admit that it looks bad.

Is it premature to invoke anthropic arguments -- which assume that the conditions for life are extremely improbable -- when we don't know how to define life?

The logic of the anthropic principle requires the strong assumption that our kind of life is the only kind possible. Why should we presume that all life is like us -- carbon-based, needs water, and so forth? How do we know that life cannot exist in radically different environments?

If life could exist without galaxies, the argument that the cosmological constant seems improbably fine-tuned for life would lose all of its force. And we don't know that life of all kinds can't exist in a wide variety of circumstances, maybe in all circumstances. It a valid
objection. But in my heart of hearts, I just don't believe that life could exist in the interior of a star, for instance, or in a black hole.

Is it possible to test the landscape idea through observation?

One idea is to look for signs that space is negatively curved, meaning the geometry of space-time is saddle-shaped as opposed to flat or like the surface of a sphere. It's a long shot but not as unlikely as I previously thought. Inflation tells us that our observable universe likely began in a different vacuum state, that decayed into our current vacuum state. It's hard to believe that's the whole story.

It seems more probable that our universe began in some other vacuum state with a much higher cosmological constant, and that the history of the multiverse is a series of quantum tunnelling events from one vacuum to another. If our universe came out of another, it must be negatively curved, and we might see evidence of that today on the largest scales of the cosmic microwave background. So the landscape, at least in principle, is testable.

If we do not accept the landscape idea are we stuck with intelligent design?

I doubt that physicists will see it that way. If, for some unforeseen reason, the landscape turns out to be inconsistent -- maybe for mathematical reasons, or because it disagrees with observation -- I am pretty sure that physicists will go on searching for natural explanations of the world.

But I have to say that if that happens, as things stand now we will be in a very awkward position. Without any explanation of nature's fine-tunings we will be hard pressed to answer the ID critics. One might argue that the hope that a mathematically unique solution will emerge is as faith-based as ID.
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LEONARD SUSSKIND

Leonard Susskind is the Felix Bloch Professor of Theoretical Physics at
Stanford University in California. His book, "Cosmic Landscape: String
Theory and The Illusion of Intelligent Design," is published this week
by Little, Brown ($24.95, £14.33, ISBN# 0316155799)

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=mg18825305.800&print=true

From Figaro

Victor All, you're mis-reading what the article is saying. In the closing remarks he says, "Without any explanation of nature's fine-tunings we will be hard pressed to answer the ID critics." Fine tuning is the key word which means the physical constants are fined tuned so Kepler's Law is fined tuned for what it does. Please don't act like the Burisch folks and jump the gun...Thanks...Robert C

From Bill Hamilton

----- Original Message -----

From: Ed Komarek

Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 9:02 AM

Subject: Re: [exopolitics_institute] Fwd: A lawyer's suggestion documenting why the Project Serpo disclosure may be genuine

 

Hi Bill, I don't remember.  You might want to post something.  I just wanted to forward something to the advisory board in case some have not been following the postings that we are following.  You might just want to forward your views. 

 

Regardless of whether this is true or not it is getting the spooks to come out more of what they know.  :-)  Things are looking better for us all the time.  This thing might just break one of these days.

 

Ed

MOVIE: "CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD KIND"

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http://www.ac.wwu.edu/~vawter/StudentSites2002/interstellar_travel/negativemass.html

From:  A U.S. MILITARY SCIENTIST ON THE UFO THREAD LIST POINTING US IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION?

From: POSTING #11 ["Journal Entries"] and the www.Serpo.org Web site:

Team Commander: "In the center of these containers is a copper colored coil or something looking like a coil. There is a bright light being shined from a point above into the center of the coil. We hear a very dull hum, but no major loud sounds. 661 thinks it is a NEGATIVE MATTER versus positive matter system."

AND NOW NASA SAYS,...  

INTERSTELLAR SPACE TRAVEL: THE IDEA OF NEGATIVE MASS PROPULSION

The idea of negative mass propulsion was created to eliminate the need for fuel, since fuel limits the feasibility of interstellar travel so much. Theoretically, it would allow faster than light travel without violating Einstein's theory of relativity.

The way this works is it uses gravity to bend space around the spaceship. A large amount of "negative mass" would be in front of the ship and a large amount of positive mass would be behind it, and the masses would curve space in such a way that it'd accelerate the ship. Apparently, such a process would not violate the conservation of energy, as the space it is travelling through would be warped.

If this theory were to work, it could be the best form of transportation available. It has been suggested that it would allow a ship to bypass the limitations of relativity, and a ship could actually travel to and from it's destination at speeds far faster than the speed of light without running into the problem of taking several years to do so.

Unfortunately, we don't even know if negative matter exists, and even if we did discover it, we'd have to develop a way to turn the effect of the matter on and off, so the speed of the ship could be controlled.

http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/PAO/html/warp/ideachev.htm

http://www.dark-planet.com/ortemus/eweasel.htm

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INTERSTELLAR SPACE FLIGHT EXPLAINED BY S4 SCIENTIST BOB LAZAR 

http://www.gravitywarpdrive.com/Government_Scientist.htm

UFO THREAD LIST MEMBER WRITES:

VICTOR: Regarding yesterday's POSTING #11 and the Team Members getting ill enroute to SERPO, it seems like they were in some kind of black whole or worm whole?  Or some gravity distortion produced by the power source.  Twilight zone stuff.
 
From Bob Lazar:

"In the Delta Configuration, discs operate on all three amplifiers.  This configuration is used in space for long-distance travel. 

"In space, a disc tilts over on its back so that the gravitational amplifiers focus on where the disc is going, and the propulsion system is powered up, amplifying gravitational waves that are out of phase with Earth's gravity.  The amplified gravitational waves distort space and time or "Space-Time" as it is referred to in the documents.  That gravity distorts or warps space is currently known in mainstream physics. 

"That is why astronomers, at certain positions during an eclipse, can see stars that are directly behind the sun (the sun's gravity causes the star's light to bend around the sun). That gravity distorts time is also known. 

"For example, if you and a friend have atomic clocks synchronized to each other and your friend climbs a mountain or goes up in an airplane, the clocks will be out of sync when your friend returns (your clock is in a stronger gravitational field). In short, the disc warps space-time, attaches itself to the warp and snaps back. 

"Imagine a thin sheet of rubber stretched out (this represents space).  Now, put a ball bearing on the sheet (this represents the disc).  Now, with your fingers under the sheet, pinch the rubber at a point some distance from the ball bearing. 

"Keeping the rubber pinched, move the pinch to the ball bearing.  As you bring the pinch back to its original position, the ball bearing will follow.  This is an analogy of what happens.

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When talking with Gene Loscowski he agreed with the LANL source that it's a "Negative Force Generating System" since he heard that term used while at Area 51 not Anti-gravity but really, it's the same thing.  The way they create this "Negative Force" according to the LANL source is through a series of specially configured super-conducting "capacitors" and "field coils." They tell us they still haven't figured it out yet. All the technical details from the LANL source are in the EfD book which even Hal Puthoff says he doesn't understand which is understandable, since the LANL sources don't really understand it....Robert C
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Guys, this message was posted on the Above Top Secret Forum.

They have 41 pages there so far specifically on Serpo: intelligent, considered, good-natured, creative, amusing, informed debate. Highly recommended if you’ve not checked it out.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread185069/pg38

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Ok... I just went through today's posting and have compiled every reference to a team member or specific Eben that comes up. I believe that we can infer their duties from what has been given so far:

The following list of quotes is from the entry of 21 December on Serpo.org:

899 and 203 will have overall charge of weapons.

700 and 754 will give each member final check before boarding.

475 really nervous. 700 will watch him.

102 sitting next to me and he is faint.

OK, I guess 203 and myself will sit in different location above these seats.

420 will try to use his language skills.

899 will taste it. Well, 899 said it tastes like paper.

OK, MVC finally showed up. Told us we will begin trip soon.

Well, 899 figured out how to get out because he is standing up.

899 said a EBE came in and looked at us and left. Other team members sleeping. 899 and myself walking around this room.

700 and 754 gave us medicine to settle our stomachs.

700 and 754 tells us to eat and drink the water we brought along we are doing that and feel a little better...

Our date recorder isn't working very well, according to 633. He thinks we have been going for 10 days but not really sure.

700 and 754, who ate the EBE food didn't seem to be as sick as us.

We drink that and seem to be better, except 518, who seem to be sick.

633 and 661 were really interested in this [command room]. 633 seemed better.

OK, MVC finally arrived. He explains in broken English, that we are halfway to home planet.

633 wants to see the engines. MVC takes four of us to the engine room or whatever they wish to call the room.

From these passages we can begin to figure out the role of each member of the team:

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Team Commander                    102
Assistant Team Commander    203 Weapons duties
Team Pilot #1                          225
Team Pilot #2                          308
Linguist #1                              420 - Male
Linguist #2                              475 - Male
Biologist                                  518
Scientist #1                             633 - Male
Scientist #2                             661
Doctor #1                                700
Doctor #2                                754
Security                                   899 Weapons duties (Male)
MVC Alien guide/translator

One of the crew members hasn't been mentioned yet.

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[And then another forum member responded:]

The team member not mentioned in the 1st journal entry seems to be the female linguist mentioned in Anon's 2nd posting, since the only linguist mentioned in the journal entry appears to be male.

"There were two females, one being a doctor and the other being a linguist."
"420 will try to use his language skills."

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There’s more interesting analysis there too, of a number of other aspects of Anon’s postings.

Best, Bill

Project Serpo
The Zeta Reticuli Exchange Program

‘Project SERPO’ mission to visitors’ home planet described in detail

By Steve Hammons

December 16, 2005

Reports and rumors have been floating around for decades that contact between the U.S. Government and beings from another planet, or other planets, has been established.

These stories include information about government acquisition of advanced technologies, greater scientific knowledge and other important assets. Some people claim that top secret organizations and agencies were created to coordinate these sensitive operations.

Now, reports have surfaced about an alleged U.S. Government military effort called “Project SERPO.” This program allegedly selected and trained a joint-service military team to accompany friendly “visitors” from another planet back to their home for a planned ten-year stay, conducting a wide range of scientific research.

On the newly-developed Web site serpo.org, this alleged project is explained and the Web site itself is described as “the gradual release of confidential documents pertaining to a top secret exchange program of twelve U.S. military personnel to Serpo, a planet of Zeta Reticuli, between the years 1965-78.”

Movies, books, TV programs and other media platforms have been used to comment on UFOs and these kinds of ideas over the years. Some of us may think these concepts are based on actual facts. Some may feel that think these ideas might possibly be based on realities. Some of us seem to think they are probably not at all accurate and are simply creative storytelling and wishful thinking.

According to Bill Ryan, a UFO researcher and coordinator of the serpo.org Web site, early last month, an interesting source came to his attention and to the attention of his associates. Ryan says “a retired senior official” within the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), who requested to not be named at this time, stated that he represented a group of six current and former DIA officials. These sources began providing information to Ryan and his colleagues on November 2 and have continued through December.

Ryan states on the Web site that he considers the possibilities that the information presented is not true, is partially true, is completely true or some combination of these. He explains that other “insiders” have previously reported on a project such as this and seem to believe that the information is possibly accurate.

In fact, he mentions a discussion he learned about between an active duty Air Force lieutenant colonel and a retired Air Force intelligence colonel. The younger man had been following the alleged Project SERPO information being released and wanted to bounce it off the senior officer. In person, he provided the retired colonel with the written material.

”After he was finished, he stated, ‘Oh my God, who on this Earth would release such classified material?’ I then asked him if all this information was real. His simple answer was, ‘yes, all real.’ I then asked the colonel if he had been involved with this project. He said, yes, he was involved in the communications aspect of this operation from about 1961 until 1965. He was also on the debriefing team. He wouldn't provide too much information, saying that unless he saw that all information was declassified, he could not comment on details. I thanked him and left.”

FIRST REPORT FROM 'ANONYMOUS'

“First let me introduce myself. My name is Request Anonymous. I am a retired employee of the U.S. Government. I won't go into any great details about my past, but I was involved in a special program.”

Thus apparently began the recounting of a very interesting series of reports on alleged events involving visitors from another planet and their contact with the United States Government.

“Anonymous” stated that there were two crash sites in New Mexico near Roswell . One crash was near Corona and the other near Datil. The first was discovered in 1947 and the second not until 1949. A crash survivor was found near the Corona crash. Other occupants apparently did not survive. However, their bodies were recovered, he says. The craft were eventually taken to Wright Field in Dayton , Ohio (now Wright-Patterson Air Force Base).

The surviving “visitor” was housed on U.S. Government facilities and lived until 1952, Anonymous states. Using communication equipment from the craft, the visitor was able to, and allowed to, make contact with his home planet.

Anonymous claims that by 1962, an “exchange program” was developed between the U.S. and the visitors. A twelve-person, joint-service military team of ten men and two women were selected from a large pool of candidates. Special training programs were developed for them. (Of interest, U.S. Army Special Forces teams typically consist of twelve men. This has been found to be an optimal team size in some ways for certain operations.)

Then, in July 1965, at the Nevada Test Site, the visitors landed, the twelve Americans boarded the spacecraft and departed for a planned ten-year stay with the visitors.

The Americans returned in 1978. That is, eight returned alive along with the bodies of two who died on the visitors’ planet, according to Anonymous. Two others chose to remain there. All of those who returned alive have since passed on, he says.

TEAM SELECTION AND TRAINING

Anonymous states that there was a rigorous selection and training process for the team members. Their military backgrounds, psychological profiles and other aspects of fitness for the mission were taken into consideration. He states that over 56,000 people were initially considered, and this was whittled down to the final twelve, with some back-ups if needed.

He says they went through many months of training that included various scientific disciplines, military skills and other needed preparedness. The training took place at several military installations and sites inside and outside of the U.S.

The team was “sheep-dipped,” intelligence community lingo for bringing them into a clandestine, covert, “black” operating modality. And, in this case, attempting to coordinate explanations for a ten-year absence from family, friends and associates.

Anonymous claims 90,500 pounds of equipment, food and supplies were taken with them when they departed with the visitors onboard one of their larger spacecraft. The trip took nine months to reach the planet Serpo.

AMERICANS ON SERPO

Anonymous says detailed reports from our team reveal a huge amount of information about the visitors and their home planet. He states the planet lies within a solar system of the Zeta Recticular Star System, two yellow double stars, similar to our Sun. The atmosphere was similar to Earth’s, he says.

The team took several months to adjust. There was strong radiation on the planet and the temperature was hot – between 94 and 115 degrees. However, in the planet’s northern hemisphere, the temperature ranged from about 55 to 80 degrees. The climate was generally quite dry.

The U.S. team studied the “Eben” society and lived among them. They learned that the Eben civilization was approximately 10,000 years old and had evolved on another planet.

In many ways, the Eben culture was similar to our own, with leaders, communities, family life of male and female couples with children, occupations, music, games and worship of a Supreme Being. Anonymous states they had advanced and effective technologies, though the American team did not understand all of it.

The Ebens were friendly and caring toward the Americans. Communication between the human team members and Ebens was often difficult, though both groups learned some of the others’ language. Some individuals of both groups were better at it than others, Anonymous states. Hand signs were also used as well as translation devices that had limited capabilities.

When the two Americans died on Serpo, the Ebens offered medical services and demonstrated sadness. Ebens attended the burial ceremonies that the humans held.

The U.S. team explored the planet as much as possible, examined the animal and plant life as well as the climate, geology, geography, physics and other areas of interest.

HOW MUCH TRUTH?

If the information revealed by Anonymous and his associates has truth to it, this would seem to be signal that responsible people now feel that further disclosure about such matters is appropriate at this time.

Some UFO researchers have indicated that a plan of gradual release of information about these issues, within the U.S. and internationally, has been ongoing for decades using various public media platforms of open source intelligence (OSINT).

The purpose of a gradual disclosure of some information about this area has allegedly been to carefully analyze various risk factors and maintain proper security of sensitive intelligence.

At the same time, some investigators have said that there is a range of opinion among experts and insiders on these kinds of projects about what kind and how much information, if any at all, should be disclosed to the general public. However, the gradual preparation of human society about these alleged discoveries seems to have proceeded, according to some researchers.

In light of the Project SERPO story, some people are taking a second look at Steven Spielberg’s movie “Close Encounters of the Third Kind.” In that film, a coordinated meeting took place with extraterrestrial visitors. Then, a twelve-person team, ten men and two women, went with the visitors. Spielberg reportedly had advisors and consultants on the film who provided him with insight on these subjects.

Anonymous says he and his team are planning to release more information about Project SERPO. Many in the U.S. and around the world will surely continue to analyze these reports carefully and try to determine if they are accurate, a psychological operation (PSYOP) for some purpose, some kind of deceptive disinformation or a creative work of fiction.

Maybe we’ll find out if Anonymous and his friends are right – that Americans and humankind are ready for this kind of knowledge.

12-22-05

– UFO PUBLIC ACCLIMATION PROGRAM GOES INTO HIGH GEAR! – 

EDITOR's NOTE:  "Anonymous" has just come out with yet another brand NEW posting which addresses the MANY REASONABLE questions that many on this list had on the alien homeworld of SERPO that 12 Americans were sent to which consisted of 10 (ten) men and two (2) women.

I ask you to keep an OPEN MIND on his startling, new revelations where -- the main thrust of his message is that -- the "laws" of physics on Earth do NOT universally apply throughout the cosmos.

Think OUTside of the box people! 

NEW READERS: Only the most recent and second to the most recent postings will be displayed here + the ORIGINAL posting by "Anonymous" which lays the groundwork for all his future transmissions.  To view postings #2 #3 #4 #5 #6,  #7 and #8, go to: 

http://www.serpo.org/

or contact Web site Administrator Bill Ryan at: Bill.Ryan@virgin.net

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Posting #11: 2005 CHRISTMAS SPECIAL! THE WORD-FOR-WORD JOURNAL ENTRIES OF THE TEAM COMMANDER + THE CODE NAMES AND 3-DIGIT NOS. THE TEAM MEMBERS REFERRED TO EACH OTHER AS FOR THE NEXT 13 YEARS! THEY NEVER USED THEIR REAL NAMES! PLUS: THE ALIEN ED DEVICE EXPLAINED IN DETAIL! SPECIAL BONUS: YOUR VARIOUS QUESTIONS ABOUT THE EBENS ADDRESSED IN THIS HOLIDAY SPECIAL EDITION!

Posting #10:  THE SPECIFIC TRAINING/EDUCATIONAL REQUIREMENTS OUR TEAM MEMBERS HAD TO SUCCESSFULLY PASS / INTRODUCING "NOAH," THE EBEN ENGLISH LANGUAGE "EXPERT" WHO ASSISTED OUR TEAM MEMBERS GREATLY WITH TRANSLATIONS! / "FALCON's" PAST STATEMENTS ARE ADDRESSED AS WELL AS "THE YELLOW BOOK," THE FAMOUS 'ALIEN AUTOPSY FILM' AND SO MUCH MORE!

Posting #9: ADDENDUM: ADDITIONAL DETAILS ON THE GRUELING TRAINING FOR SERPO AND THE 'SECRET WEAPON' OUR TEAM MEMBERS TOOK WITH THEM! 

Posting #1 – THE ORIGINAL POSTING BY "ANONYMOUS" WHICH PUT THE DISCLOSURE PROCESS INTO OVERDRIVE,... A TRUE CLASSIC!
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POSTING #11 

[ ] = Moderator's comments/insertions 

EBE = Extraterrestrial Biological Entity: NO! 
ETE: Extraterrestrial Entity: YES!

[ Official terminology used by the U. S. Government ]

SERPO spelled backwards =  OPRES:  "Office-Of-Primary Responsibility for Extraterrestrial Security" = Defense Intelligence Agency


MERRY CHRISTMAS FROM SERPO! THE JOURNAL ENTRIES FROM THE TEAM COMMANDER, THE CODE NAMES FOR OUR BRAVE TEAM MEMBERS, THE ZPE-LIKE, ALIEN ENERGY DEVICE SPECS ARE DETAILED, THE VARIOUS EBEN CATEGORIES AND WHEN THE EXCHANGE PROGRAM CAME TO AN ABRUPT END / YOUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED FROM ANONYMOUS IN THIS YEAR-END HOLIDAY SPECIAL EDITION!  

REGARDING OUR TEAM MEMBERS

QUESTION: If our Team Members had their identities "sheep dipped," how did they refer to one another as?

ANONYMOUS: Each Team Member was NOT identified by name.  Once the final 16 were selected, (remember, we had four {4} alternates), each Team Member got a number (three digit). 

From that point on, they were identified by number ONLY.  Even each Team Member identified the others by their three-digit number. They were NEVER to use their real names. Once they left planet Earth and traveled on to SERPO, they gave each other nicknames. 

For example, the Team Commander was identified as, "Skipper," the medical officers were identified as "Doc-1" and "Doc-2," the pilots were identified as, "Sky-King" and "Flash-Gordon."  Even though it wouldn't make any difference if they used their real names on SERPO, they were disciplined enough to continue either using the nicknames or the three-digit numbers. 
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THE TEAM COMMANDER's JOURNAL ENTRIES,... A MUST READ!

VICTOR: I hope you didn't lose hope and faith in me; I needed to take a break during the holidays as I'm sure you did!  I have been coordinating this very complex subject matter with various people in the USG intell community. 

Additionally, I and the rest of the DIA-6 are feverishly working on the photographs. Let's keep our fingers crossed! 

Attached for your UFO Thread List are just four (4) pages of the Team Commander's diary. The diary contains a large number of pages, all hand written. It took me several days to prepare the attached four (4) pages from the diary.

This is the actual, VERBATIM DIARY of the Team Commander.  It was started the morning of the departure. There were code names for control personnel and three-digit numbers for each Team Member [addressed above].  There are other codes and abbreviations for certain things, which is not explained. 

I've typed the EXACT words, phrases and abbreviations. Nothing has been changed. And likewise, I will ask YOU to NOT alter, change, correct any of the text here as you often do with mine to make it grammatically correct (you make me feel like I was an English major like you!)  This includes your use of CAPS to emphasize things I've written; I ask you to NOT do this with these journal entries, Victor. 
 
DAY 1

We are ready. Hard to think we finally made it. Team is motivated and calm. Final briefing by MTC and MTB.  Cargo packed in EBE craft. Might have some problems with guns. Will be talking to the MVC. 899 and 203 will have overall charge of weapons. No sync system or we don't know about them. Everything moving smoothly. 700 and 754 will give each member final check before boarding. 

OK, we loaded everything and it fits. But we have to transfer all of it to the bigger ship once we get to rendevous point. Really excited about this. No reservations by anyone. MTC asked all members to make final decision.  The team all said go.  We go. Interior of Ebe craft is big.  There are three levels, this is different than the one we trained on.  I think that was a scout craft, this one is a shuttle craft. 

We stored the cargo in lower level.  We will sit in the center level and the crew will sit in the upper level.  Strange looking walls. 
They seem to be dimensional.  There are three stations, four of us will sit in each station.  No seats just benches.  We wouldn't fit
in those small crew seats. 

The MVC says we don't need anything special, no O2 or helmets.  Don't know what to do with them.  OK, final checks.  MTC gave us final words.  One pray said.  We board the Ebe craft.  475 really nervous.  700 will watch him.  The hatch is closed. No windows. 
We can't see out.  Everyone is seated in their respective seats on the bench.  No retention harnesses.  OK, well, bar across us. 

The craft is starting engine, or what they call energy thrusters.  Seems like we are moving but nothing happening inside.  Still able to
write this. Really dizzy now. 102 sitting next to me and he is faint.  Something feels really funny. Have to rewrite this because I can't think straight.
 
DAY 1 – Entry 2

We made it to the rendevous craft.  We don't know where we are, but it seemed like we all fainted or was really confused during this trip.  According to my wrist watch, it took about six hours.  Or maybe more.  We left at 1325 and it is 1939.  But not sure of the day. 
We flew into the big ship. We are standing in a bay or something.

There are many EBES helping us.  They seem to understand we are confused. The cargo was off loaded in one big move.  The platform containing the cargo was moved without unloading the individual cargo.  This ship looks like the inside of a real big building.  The ceiling is about 100 feet high in this area of the ship. 

OK, we are being moved into another part of the ship.  OK, we moved to another room or area.  What a big ship. I just can't describe how big this is.  It took us about 15 minutes to walk to our area.  Seems like it is something special for us.  The chairs are bigger.  But
there are only 10 of them. OK, I guess 203 and myself will sit in different location above these seats. 

We are moved by some sort of elevator, but I can't understand how it worked.  Everyone his hungry.  We have our backpacks containing some C-rats and I guess we eat now.  But must ask the MVC.  I can't find him and we can't communicate with the two EBEs here. 

They seem to be real nice.  420 will try to use his language skills.  Almost funny.  Sounds like a screaming match.  We just used sign language indicating we want to eat.  One of the EBE brought us a container with something it.  Doesn't look good but I think it is
their food.  Looks like mush or oatmeal.  899 will taste it.  Well, 899 said it tastes like paper.  Think we will all stick to C-rats. 

OK, MVC finally showed up.  Told us we will begin trip soon.  Two mils I think he means minutes but don't really know.  Maybe it wasn't such a good idea to eat before leaving.  We don't feel any weightlessness and we don't feel dizzy.  But we don't know what to
expect from this point on.  They are indicating we must sit in the chairs. 
 
DAY 2
 
I'm not sure just how long we were in the containers.  We sat in the chairs and a clear container was placed over us and the chair.  We
were isolated in this bubble or sphere.  We could breath OK and could see out, but we really felt dizzy and confused.  I think I fell asleep or fainted.  I think this is another day, but my watch says one hour since we sat, but I think it is the next day. 

Our time instruments are located in our backpacks which are stored in another area of this room. We are still in these spheres but it seems OK.  Well, 899 figured out how to get out because he is standing up.  He opened my sphere.  Not sure if we should be out of this
thing.  899 said a EBE came in and looked at us and left.  Other team members sleeping. 899 and myself walking around this room. 

I retrieved the time instruments.  Seems like we have been traveling about 24 hours or so.  No windows to see.  Originally we were told it would take about 270 of our days.  OK, EBE came in and pointed to the chairs, I guess we need to go back and get into them. 
 
ENTRY 

Since I am not sure of which day it is I won't state a day as to my entry, [so] I'll just say entry.  We are all sick.  Dizzy, upset stomachs.  700 and 754 gave us medicine to settle our stomachs.  But we really feel bad.  We seem to be unable to focus our eyes and seem to not know which way way to turn up or down and don't know the way to sit down. Really bad feeling.

Medicine helps a little we are able to eat a little. 700 and 754 tells us to eat and drink the water we brought along we are doing that and feel a little better can't concentrate on anything so I can't rite [sic] anymore right now.
 
ENTRY
 
Feel a lot better. EBES came in and did something to the room.  It all seems clearer and we are not so confused and dizzy. We ate again and drink more water.  Feeling a lot better. We are out of sphere, but must stay in them at certain times. 

EBE showed us a series of lights above the entry panel.  Green, Red and White lights.  If the light is red, we must sit in sphere.  If
light is white, we are OK.  EBE never explained the Green light.  Maybe that isn't good. 

We have no idea what day it is, only that it is 2319.  Our date recorder isn't working very well, according to 633. He thinks we have
been going for 10 days but not really sure.  We have been confined to this room for the entire time.  I think this room was made for us and we are safe in this room. 

Maybe it wouldn't be wise to leave it.  No weightlessness.  Don't know how they do it. But we do feel a little lightheaded when we
walk. Seems room is pressurized.  Ears are popping a lot. If we have to sit in this room for 270 days we will really be bored.  We
can't really do much, all our equipment is packed away. 

We have our backpacks but they only contain a few items.  We want to clean up, but can't find a bathroom except the containers we are using to relieve ourselves.  They are small metal containers that are emptied by the EBE every now and then. EBE brings us food, their food. We tried it and it tastes like paper really no taste but maybe it is something special for space travel.  700 is eating it.  He seems OK but it is upsetting his bowels.  Their water is milky looking but tastes like apples. Strange.

[Editor's note: "EBE brings us food, their food. We tried it and it tastes like paper really no taste but maybe it is something special for space travel.:"    EBE food looks like mushed paper, but they use telepathic 'taste' to flavor it according to whatever the eater likes. The same 'papery mush' can taste like any food.  Water is H2o - a milky looking water, is another substance with flavor in it.
EBE's really like J-ello. In fact they sometimes telepath to abductees to make 'orange J-ello' and then they abduct the orange J-ello' as well as the people. ]
 
ENTRY
 
It has been a long time since I have made an entry.  We are guessing we have been on the ship for 25 days.  But we might be off about five days.  We were locked into our sphere for a long period of time.  We had to leave in order to relieve ourselves and finally were able to open the sphere. 

But when we did, we all got sick, really sick. Dizzy, confused and some couldn't walk. We had trouble urinating and moving our bowels.  700 and 754, who ate the EBE food didn't seem to be as sick as us. They treated us with medicine.  EBE came in and pointed a blueish light on our heads.  We felt better, much better after this. 

But pointed to the chairs and we figure we must get back into them. We showed him our waste containers and pointed to the chairs in a confused manner. He understood and then left the room.  EBE came back with small containers we could place inside the sphere. 

He also brought in small jugs of the milky liquid and made a motion for us to drink it.  So we went back into the sphere and just sat there with the waste containers and the jug of the milky stuff.  We drink that and seem to be better, except 518, who seem to be sick. But we were cautioned to stay inside the sphere. 
 
ENTRY
 
I don't have any idea how long we stayed in that sphere this time.  But EBE came in and made a motion for us to come out.  We were able to move around without being dizzy or sick.  EBE even allowed us to leave the room.  We walked along a very narrow hallway for a long period of time, maybe 20 minutes.  We then got into some sort of elevator, which moved fast because we could feel the motion. 

We came out into a very large room that contained many EBENS sitting in seats.  Maybe this is the control center.  Our escort made a motion to go into the room.  We could see control panels which contained many lights.  There were four different stations containing six EBENs each.  They were in levels.

The top level inside this room contained just one seat.  One EBEN was seated in that chair.  We figure he must be the pilot or commander.  He seemed busy with an instrument panel.  There were many television screens, but they all showed EBEN language and series of lines, both vertical and horizontal.  Maybe some sort of graph. 

We were able to wander around without any EBEN bothering us.  633 and 661 were really interested in this.  633 seemed better.  There was one window.  But we could see anything. It was dark but we could make out wavy lines.  Maybe some sort of distortion in time.  We must be moving faster that light speed, but we can't see anything out the window. 

OK,  MVC finally arrived.  He explains in broken english, that we are halfway to home planet. Everything is functioning properly and we all will feel better once the craft gets out of this time wave, as he calls it.  MVC says we can walk around any part of the ship, but we must stay together. 

[Editor's note:  EBE's think and speak perfect English.  I don't know about every one of them.  But I know the ones I know don't have any problems with it.   That said, they seldom verbally speak English.  They speak in their own tongue which contains a lot of slurs and clicking sounds... but when they talk English, a lot of the time they use telepathy instead.  It the reptilian guys who have a hard time with talking English.]

We must be shown how to operate the movement centers.  We are thinking he is referring to the elevators.  It seems simple, just placing your hand over one of the operating lights.  White and red.  White moves it and red stops it.  We hear some type of ringing sound, but MVC says it is only space sounds.  Whatever he means by that. We were able to walk around the ship, but it is so large it is difficult to understand how such a large ship can move so fast. 

633 wants to see the engines.  MVC takes four of us to the engine room or whatever they wish to call the room.  It contains large, very large metal containers.  They are in a circle, with the ends of each pointing into the center.  Many pipes or some type of large tubes
connects them. 

In the center of these containers is a copper colored coil or something looking like a coil.  There is a bright light being shined from a
point above into the center of the coil.  We hear a very dull hum, but no major loud sounds.  661 thinks it is a negative matter versus
positive matter system. 

[ END JOURNAL ENTRIES FROM TEAM COMMANDER ]
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QUESTION: Please explain, for the enlightenment of all, the Eben Energy Device (ED) found at the crash site.

ANONYMOUS: OK, I will answer this question. Dimensions: 9" x 11" x 1½", weight 26.7 oz.  The ED [Energy Device] is clear and made of something similar to hard plastic. 

On the bottom left, there is a small square metal plate, possibly a chip. It is one of the connector points. 

On the bottom right, there is another small square metal point, which is the second connector point. 

Viewed from an electron microscope, the ED contains small circular-shaped bubbles. Within these bubbles are extremely minute
small particles. When a demand for electric power is applied to the ED, the particles always move clockwise at a great speed, not
measurable. There is also some type of unidentified fluid located around the bubbles. When a demand is placed on the ED, this fluid
turns from a clear color to a hazy pink color. The fluid becomes warm between 102° - 115° F. 

However, the little bubbles would not heat up, ONLY the fluid.  The bubbles maintained a constant temperature of 72°  F.  The boundary of the ED contains small (micron sized) wires.  When a demand is placed on the ED, the wires expand in size.  This expanding process depended on the amount of demand placed on the ED.  We did extensive, exhaustive  experimentation with the ED.  We could power everything from a .5 watt bulb to AN ENTIRE HOUSE! 

The ED automatically detects the required demand and then outputs that exact amount.  It worked on everything electrical EXCEPT equipment that contained a magnetic field.  Somehow, our magnetic field interferes with the output demand of the ED.  However, we have developed a shielding process to correct this. 

I won't go into all the scientific nomenclature at this time [due to national security implications]. This is just the basic information on
the ED, which is what a reader wanted to know. 

Interestingly, when our recovery team first found the ED, they thought it was a window because of its clear plastic-like qualities.  Ebe #1 had to show us how it worked.  It still took us MANY YEARS to FULLY UNDERSTAND the ED's  operational qualities.  I'm SURE we fully understand everything about it today, BUT that isn't written in the final [SERPO] report. 
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REGARDING EBENS #1 - #5:  

Ebe #1 was the crash survivor from the craft found in Corona, NM in July, 1947.  

Ebe #2 was the first exchange of an Eben scientist and was the second visitor left on Earth. I don't know the exact time period of his stay. 

Ebe #3 was a female scientist. 

J-ROD was a cloned Eben, created by the Ebens, who came as another type of visitor.  J-ROD is a very complicated matter and the entire story will NEVER be made public.  The exact type of entity J-ROD was shall remain classified as "Above Top Secret."  

Let your exclusive UFO Thread List membership know that THIS SUBJECT MATTER IS CLOSED and no future questions regarding this topic will be addressed.

Why s/he or it was named J-ROD is classified. People have speculated about that, and officially it means something, but that information shall remain shielded from the public domain.  
 
President Bill Clinton wanted to continue the exchange program, but others in his administration thought it would be a mistake and overruled him. It was terminated in 1994 with Ebe #5.

It's also important to note that the Eben communication device failed to work altogether in 1996 and we've not had any contact with them [the Ebens] nor can we initiate any with them from our end.
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QUESTION: UFO author Whitley Strieber claims to have been contacted by a man claiming that he was part of a human-alien exchange program in the '60s. Was Whitley "played" or did he actually meet one of the Team Members?

ANONYMOUS: The guy who approached Whtiley Strieber in 1989-'90, WAS a Team Member. We know him and knew the contact he made with Strieber, not once, not twice, but THREE (3) times. 

All surviving Team Members were carefully monitored and watched by a special branch of the DIA. The last surviving Team Member died in 2002 in the State of Florida.
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QUESTION FROM ROBERT STANLEY:

VICTOR: 

Can you give me more details re. this statement?:

"However, when he [Ebe #1] was taken to Washington, D.C., (VERY closely controlled), the climate there (in late fall) was too cold for him."

When did this occur?

How long was EBE #1 there?

Where did he stay?

Thank you.

ROBERT STANLEY
Unicus magazine

ANONYMOUS: I will NOT supply that information. 

For your information only (not for public view), Ebe #1 visited Washington D.C. in 19XX and stayed at XXXX XXXX, XX in a special
XXXXX. He did NOT meet with President XXXXX!

[Withheld for reasons of national security.]
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FACTOID: The final segment of CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD KIND which I viewed does have 12 (twelve) people, 10 men and two women. Twelve people are also the number given in Spielberg's book version.

However, I got around to reading the end of Spielberg's paperback version of CE3. It reads the same as the movie EXCEPT  for two (2) interesting things. The 12 (twelve) Team Members are introduced as ALL MEN.

An additional dialogue not in the movie also takes place. They have a sit down with Roy Neary and have him sign a number of documents. While he signs the last one he is told the following:

"We have a possible problem in the area of canon and common jurisprudence outside of the parameters of our astronomy. The case could be made that you are, in effect, technically speaking... dead."

Is this a fancy way of saying that if anybody comes snooping around about what happened to Roy, they now have the legal right to tell them he is dead? Does that sound familiar?

"Spielberg tells me about the film. It's about UFOs, he says, but it is not science fiction. He calls it 'science fact.'"

COMMENT: Makes you wonder how Spielberg got the numbers and gender count right.

It is reported that after President Ronald Reagan watched a special screening of "Close Encounters of the Third Kind," he privately spoke to Steven Spielberg and said, "You don't know how true this really is!"

[ The actual quote by President Reagan ]
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FLASH:  

I received a very interesting e-mail (which I promised not to disclose) from a senior USG official, who works within the Bush administration.  This official stated: 

"Everyone within the NSC [National Security Council] is extremely interested in Mr. Anonymous' information. Naturally, we cannot make any official statements or comments on the subject matter.

"However, we are hopeful the public is accepting the information with an OPEN MIND."   

So, as you can see, everyone is getting this information.  If the NSC is aware of it, then I would say -- without a doubt -- it is officially
sanctioned! 

Hope the wind picks up!

[ NAME WITHHELD PER REQUEST ]
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REGARDING THE TEAM MEMBER PHOTOGRAPHS

We are working on obtaining four (4) photographs taken by our Team Members of SERPO. I will scan them into my computer and then e-mail them to you. You can send them to Bill Ryan for inclusion into the SERPO Web site.

DON'T distribute the photographs through your huge UFO thread list. Just leave it on the Serpo.org Web site for Web site Administrator Bill Ryan to post.

We are in the process of scanning photographs from SERPO. I'm not sure how well they will turn out, but once I get them finalized, I will e-mail them to you and you can provide them to Bill for the SERPO Web site.  I just hope they turn out alright. 

Once the public sees these photographs, even our skeptics, die-hard debunkers and those who claim that this is all a "non-event disclosure," will scratch their heads in total amazement! [They're NOT from a Hollywood movie set!]

– One photograph shows the entire Team standing next to an Eben home, with several Ebens standing in the background;

– another photograph shows the Team's new home in the north;  

– another photograph shows an Eben village in the north;  

– another photograph shows a group of Eben's playing their "soccer" game.    

You'll love them!

One group member has a fool-proof way of sending them. I'm not sure of the exact method, but I'll let you know just prior to his sending them. Either they'll be sent to you (or Bill directly) in encrypted form or a special military courier will bring them to you from a special unit within the DIA.

We'll let you know.
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One final thing:  Someone mentioned the planet "Sieu." That was the pronunciation of SERPO by the Ebens. They're both  one and the SAME.

– ANONYMOUS
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POSTING #10

THE SPECIFIC CURRICULUM VITAE OF THE 12 TEAM MEMBERS / THE CONTINUING LANGUAGE PROBLEMS WITH THE EBEN LANGUAGE / INTRODUCING "NOAH," THE EBEN ENGLISH LANGUAGE EXPERT AND SPACE TRAVELLER! / THE "CONTRADICTION" PROVIDED BY "FALCON" ON THE EBEN CLIMATE IS ADDRESSED! / THE EBEN's HAND
IN EARTH's PAST HISTORY AND RELIGION, AND THE INFAMOUS "ALIEN AUTOPSY FILM" ARE ANSWERED AS WELL IN THIS BOMBSHELL, MUST-READ POSTING!

After the extensive selection process,  each Team Member had to demonstrate their abilities to endure hardship, which included a battery of psychological tests, medical screenings and a PAT (Positive Attitude Tests which is a military test given to pilots and special forces personnel).

The training consisted of the following:

1) Introduction to Space Exploration (taught by NASA personnel); 

2) Astronomy, identification of stars, use of telescopes and general astrophysics; 

3) Eben anthropology (information received from Ebe #1); 

4. Eben History (basic information received from Ebe #1); 

5. U.S. Army Field Medical Training (trauma care). This was given to the non-medical personnel on the Team; 

6. High Altitude training-parachute and weightless/zero oxygen environment training; 

7. Survival, escape and evasion training; 

8. Basic weapons and explosive training (six [6] pounds of C-4 [Composition-4] was taken);

http://science.howstuffworks.com/c-42.htm  (How C-4 works)

9. Psychological Operations Training and anti-interrogation preparation; 

10. Small Unit Tactical Training (Mini 4-week U.S. Army Ranger Course); 

11. Intelligence Gathering Course; 

12. Space Geology-collection methods and use of specialized geological equipment;  

13. Physical Stress Training; 

14. Methods to cope with confinement/isolation;  

15. Nurtrition course;  

16. Equipment use training;  

17. Individual speciality training;  

18. Basic Biology;  

19. Other training which is still considered EXTREMELY HIGHLY CLASSIFIED EVEN AFTER 40 YEARS [1965 - 2005]. 

Humans could make the Eben tonal sounds, but one had to practice and practice and practice. It took a long time for anyone studying the Eben language to make the sounds.  Some of the sounds were similar to high pitch singing sounds. The bottom line is that it COULD be done.

Now consider this:  Even though each Team Member was taught the Eben tonal sounds/language, it was difficult for the Team Members to remember each tone and the use of other sounds with the tones.  The two (2) linguists on the Team practiced and learned enough to basically communicate, according to the documents I read.

The Ebens learned English, but had difficulty pronouncing words exactly correct.  For example, according to the document, Ebens could not say the letter "L."  So, if the Eben's were trying to say the word "look," it came out "ook."

Between the first message sent by our Earth-based team in the summer of 1952 to the first message received from the Ebens was about four (4) months.  We have no way of knowing when the Ebens received our message, how long it took them to study it and how long it took them to send it back.  The signals were in Eben language, with a readout and sounds, tonal, etc. 
 
One interesting note:  There was one Eben, who was a space traveller and who could speak English better than the other Ebens who had learned it.  This Eben was codenamed "Noah" by the Team.  Every time the team had to communicate important information, they turned to Noah. But during the latter part of our Team's stay, Noah left for an away mission. By then, our two linguists were able to communicate better than any other Team Member. 

QUESTION: Why didn't our Team use the Eben communication device? 

ANONYMOUS: They had it, but it contained only about 500 English words.  Not enough to fully communicate.  The Team discarded the device early in their stay.

Who is "Falcon?!"  I AM READING FROM THE ACTUAL DEBRIEFING DOCUMENTS.
There is no mention of a "Falcon."  There is no mention of a "Falcon" on the Briefing Control Access Roster. If you're referring to the 1989 TV special, "UFOs Coverup,... LIVE!" in which a "Falcon" and a "Condor" appeared in shadowed form, THEY NEVER HAD ACCESS to the actual "Project SERPO" Report.

I would guess that whomever Falcon is was spreading DISinformation.  Ebens lived on a warm planet, except the northern hemisphere, which was cooler.  Some Ebens lived in the cooler climate,  but the Ebens could NOT stand extreme cold. 

I think one is confusing what Ebe #1 said about "OUR" planet. It liked the cooler places on "OUR" planet.  He was NOT referring to
SERPO. Ebe #1 was a visitor on our planet and was taken to several different locations, mostly warm.  When he arrived at Los Alamos, he remarked that he liked the "cooler" climate, meaning Los Alamos in the LATE summer. 

However, when he [Ebe #1] was taken to Washington, D.C., (VERY closely controlled), the climate there (in late fall) was too cold for him.  I don't know about a "Falcon" or his/her information, but I DO KNOW THE FACTS surrounding Ebe #1.

QUESTION: What do you make of what Ebe #1 ALLEGEDLY said about Mankind being genetically altered throughout time AND that they established religions and Christ in particular on our planet?

[An idea that was popularized in the 1989 bestseller, "The Gods of Eden" by William Bramley, ISBN# 0380718073]

ANONYMOUS: If one reads the "Yellow Book" [the true and correct history of Mankind as relayed by the ETEs] and reads between the lines, one would come away with the thought and clear impression that the Ebens had something to do with Jesus Christ or, possibly, Jesus was one of THEM.

Also, if you look at some events that are shown in the "Yellow Book," (remember, there are NO dates shown in the "Yellow Book"), you can connect some incidents, such as Fatima, etc., with an Eben landing.

http://archive.alienzoo.com/filmandtv/mikefarrellcoverup.html

http://www.ufoseek.org/fatimajv.htm

QUESTION: Is the much ballyhooed and hyped "Alien Autopsy Film" released by Ray Santilli REAL or FAKE?

ANONYMOUS: That film is a fake. We did perform four (4) autopsies of the five (5) dead Ebens found in the Corona crash site and did photograph them, however the bodies from the western New Mexico crash site were too decomposed to be autopsied. But the Ray Santilli film is an absolute 100% FAKE.

http://www.soc.org/opcam/a_autopsy/alienautopsy.html

The "DIM" was the Duty Information Manual.  It was their "bible," for all of the information they would need.  The operations plans, how to execute the plans, emergency action procedures, etc.
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POSTING #9

ADDENDUM to Posting #8:  ADDITIONAL DETAILS ON THE GRUELING TRAINING REGIMEN FOR THEIR 13-YEAR JOURNEY TO PLANET SERPO INCLUDING PLANS FOR MASS SUICIDE, THE SECRET WEAPON OUR TEAM MEMBERS TOOK WITH THEM TO NEUTRALIZE THE EBENS AND HOW THEY PLANNED TO ESCAPE PLANET SERPO WITH A
"SAUCER-JACKED" EBEN CRAFT BACK TO EARTH!      

Each Team Member had to endure extreme psychological and physical training.  In one training test, each Team Member was locked inside a 5' x 7' box buried seven (7) feet underground for five (5) days, with just food and water, no  contact with anyone else and in total darkness. This tested several factors. 

Each Team Member also took a "pill" with them. The pill was standard issue for intelligence agents operating behind enemy lines.  The pill could end their life if, for some reason, the Ebens turned out to be hostile [they never did]. 

Several selected Team Members (pilots) were trained on flying an Eben craft, one of which was the one captured near western New Mexico in 1949.  The plan called for these selected few to fly the craft back to Earth in case of an emergency. 

There were four (4) pilots on the team.  These four (4) spent many weeks at the Nevada complex [Area 51/S4/Groom Lake / Dreamland] learning to fly the recovered Eben alien craft. It wasn't hard to fly, once one could understand the operation of the controls. I'm SURE many of the UFO sightings back in 1964/'65 around the West could be attributed to these test flights by our Team Members. 

Selected Team Members carried small containers of liquid nitrogen. Ebens were vulnerable to extreme cold. In case the Eben's
turned hostile, the liquid nitrogen could be used to neutralize Ebens during an escape attempt. The Team Members were instructed to spray the substance directly into the face of an Eben. Ebe #1 was found to be vulnerable to this. 

As for the liquid nitrogen matter.  The liquid nitrogen was placed in special containers, just like we do today.  The debriefing document
doesn't state the type of containers, just that each member had a small container.

[NEVER materialized; ONLY the Earth human is a violently predisposed and hostile sentient creature.]

However, during the return debriefing,  the Team found the Ebens to be so docile, each Team Member quickly DISCARDED THESE BOTTLES of liquid nitrogen when they arrived on SERPO. The Ebens realized the Team had this substance, but never questioned the reason for bringing it. 

As with weapons, each Team Member had a handgun and rifle. The Ebens realized these were weapons, but again never questioned why the Team Members were bringing them along. 

But each Team Member never carried the weapons EXCEPT during their exploration of SERPO and then ONLY CERTAIN  Team Members carried them. 
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POSTING #1

INITIAL E-MAIL BY "ANONYMOUS"

VICTOR:

First let me introduce myself. My name is Request Anonymous. I am a retired employee of the U.S. Government. I won't go into any great details about my past, but I was involved in a special program.

As for Roswell, it occurred, but NOT like the story books tell. There were two (2) crash sites. One southwest of Corona, New Mexico and the second site at Pelona Peak, south of Datil, New Mexico.

The crash involved two (2) extraterrestrial aircraft. The Corona site was found a day later by an archaeology team. This team reported the crash site to the Lincoln County Sheriff's department. A deputy arrived the next day and summoned a state police officer. One live entity [EBE] was found hiding behind a rock. The entity was given water but declined food. The entity was later transferred to Los Alamos.

The information eventually went to Roswell Army Air Field. The site was examined and all evidence was removed. The bodies were taken to Los Alamos National Laboratory because they had a freezing system that allowed the bodies to remain frozen for research. The craft was taken to Roswell and then onto Wright Field, Ohio.

The second site was not discovered until August 1949 by two ranchers. They reported their findings several days later to the sheriff of Catron County, New Mexico. Because of the remote location, it took the sheriff several days to make his way to the crash site. Once at the site, the sheriff took photographs and then drove back to Datil.

Sandia Army Base, Albuquerque, New Mexico was then notified. A recovery team from Sandia took custody of all evidence, including six (6) bodies. The bodies were taken to Sandia Base, but later transferred to Los Alamos.

The live entity established communications with us and provided us with a location of his home planet. The entity remained alive until 1952, when he died. But before his death, he provided us with a full explanation of the items found inside the two crafts. One item was a communication device. The entity was allowed to make contact with his planet.

Somehow, I never knew this information, but a meeting date was set for April 1964 near Alamogordo New Mexico. The Aliens landed and retrieved the bodies of their dead comrades. Information was exchanged. Communication was in English. The aliens had a translation device.

In 1965, we had AN EXCHANGE PROGRAM WITH THE ALIENS. We carefully selected 12 military personnel; ten (10) men and two (2) women. They were trained, vetted and carefully removed from the military system. The 12 were skilled in various specialities.

Near the northern part of the Nevada Test Site, the aliens landed and the 12 Americans left. One entity was left on Earth. The original plan was for our 12 people to stay 10 years and then return to Earth.

But something went wrong. The 12 remained until 1978, when they were returned to the same location in Nevada. Seven (7) men and one (1) woman returned. Two (2) died on the alien's home planet. Four (4) others DECIDED TO REMAIN, according to the returnees. Of the eight (8) that returned, all have died. The last survivor died in 2002.

The returnees were isolated from 1978 until 1984 at various military installations. The Air Force Office of Special Investigation (AFOSI) was responsible for their security and safety. AFOSI also CONDUCTED DEBRIEFING SESSIONS WITH THE RETURNEES.

I have never seen or read anything about the exchange program. I once heard a little bit of information from Linda Howe, but she didn't have much information.

I've monitored your e-mails for about six (6) months. I've read e-mails from you and others. But I've never seen nor heard the truth about the real Roswell incident or the exchange program.

I'd like to hear what others say about this.

– ANONYMOUS
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The complete debriefing is contained in: "PROJECT SERPO," Final
Report-80HQD893-020, classified TS, Codeword. 

As for the laws of physics, your Anonymous is twisting the facts. The orbits of those two stars Zeta1 & 2 is an observational fact, not some law of physics although all galaxies, stars & planets operate under those laws from what's been observed. The two stars are spread wide apart by 350 billion miles called a wide binary. And Kepler's law was applied to the planets of Zeta 2 and it works pretty good even for elliptical orbits. Puts EBE-1's home planet #4 right where it should be, see table below. The game I think is to convince everyone that yes Anonymous does have some good information. But beware, good information from what I see is being sprinkled with bad information or disinfo. For Zeta 1 & 2 see link. For Zeta 2 Planets see table.
www.solstation.com/stars2/zeta-ret.htm
EBE-1 came from the 4th planet around Zeta 2. See the AU place planet 4 is sitting around Zeta 2 or 1.12 AU. Very nice place to live.... Notice that Zeta-4 orbital period is 432 days but yet it's further out than SERPO was in that Anonymous report which gave a ridiculous 865....

Planets of the Zeta 2 Reticulum System
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Planet        Semi-Major axis        Period(days)      Period(years)
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Reticulum 1    0.14 (AU)            18.9 (days)      0.052 (years)
Reticulum 2    0.28                     54.0                0.1481
Reticulum 3    0.56                     152.9              0.4196
Reticulum 4    1.12                     432.6              1.12
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So one Reticulum 4 year is equal to roughly 1.12 earth years or 432 days. And it is in roughly the same position in Zeta 2 Ret's "life-zone" as the Earth is in the Sun's. Zeta 2 Ret is a G1V spectral class star, the sun is a G2V

10 November
Kepler's laws apply to normal star systems. Zeta 1 & 2 are a wide binary which is observed not calculated, repeat, observed not calculated. Their masses are roughly
that of our own sun so that constant in Kepler's law can get set to 1. Then you just do the rest. I'm not talking about the physical conditions on SERPO. I'm talking about the orbits of the planets and stars. See link below, Zeta 1 & 2 are separated by one tenth of a light year or 350 billion miles. Said those things a million times also. It's not me, all those numbers can be referenced... www.solstation.com/stars2/zeta-ret.htm

10 November
I'm a military scientist. Here are my observations regarding the SERPO information:

The question of whether the "laws of physics" apply differently from galaxy to galaxy dependent upon their spin is irrelevant to any discussion of Reticuli twins in that they are both part of the same Milky Way galaxy as is our Sun. Moreover, any distortion in our observations of OTHER galaxies which MIGHT result from the spin of our own, would apply across the board, and thus in essence negate itself since there would be no way to logically compare it to similar distortional effects which would effect observers in other galaxies in their efforts to observe us, presuming that both observations were initiated at the exact same moment of Universal time. In other words, if a third observer in some other dimension were able to compare 1 unit of time (say a single oscillation of one atom of cesium) as observed on planet earth, with 1 unit of time equally measured on the planet X in the far-away galaxy of XXXXX, that observer might conclude(after removing all other variables) that the two units were different from his perspective even though both observers in both galaxies might observe and report what they though were the same results.

A cesium clock ticks off one second on planet earth. A twin cesium clock placed in orbit and traveling at orbital velocity also ticks off one second. Observers at each location agree that one second has passed as confirmed by the read-out on their instrumentation. It is only when the two clocks are compared that it becomes obvious that there has been some distortion; yet in attempting to compare them it becomes equally obvious that the same observer cannot ever observe both at EXACTLY the same time (with a bow to Heisenberg). Thus, differences arise NOT from the observation, but from the perspective used to interpret it.

The basic Theorem: Only from an observation platform set in ANOTHER universe would an observer be able to detect and have some basis of accurately comparing distortions being produced locally in THIS universe by differences in the spin rates of the various galaxies of which it is composed. All this aside, unless the inhabitants of SERPO routinely walk on ceilings and through walls, the laws of physics apply the same there as they do here.
Lieutenant Colonel ____ ____
USAF Scientific Advisory Group

11 November
If the "Away Team" couldn't make their measuring devices work properly, then why even quote numbers like these?

Is a mile on earth a mile on SERPO? Recall that lengths are now referred to the wavelength of light. Is the light wavelength to be trusted? Does red light generated by excited neon atoms, which has a wavelength of 6328 Angstroms on earth, have some other value in SERPIAN length measurement units? Is there neon on SERPO? (Are their elements the same? Some have speculated that there could be different values for Planck's Constant, c, etc., in different universes.

If SERPO is in another universe all bets are off as to whether or not we could make sense of what is "normal" to them. Talk about "out of the box" thinking.)

Some of you may recognize this as the wavelength of red HeNe laser light.

If a HeNe laser were built on SERPO and the the laser light directed toward earth would the wavelength when received on earth be 6328 Å ? If so, then there should be a simple ratio between SERPIAN length units and ours. If not, then it would be much more difficult or perhaps impossible to derive SERPO physics from our own.

Moons: SERPO has two.
Complicated tides? Distances from planet? relative sizes? Periods?

Day: 43 hours
Whose hours? Makes no sense to quote this as hours unless it is intended to mean our hours, which are related to our seconds (3600 per hour) and each second is a number of oscillations of the atomic clock. If atoms "run differently" on SERPO then not only will wavelengths be different (see above) but also frequencies (time durations of oscillation). Which type of day? Does this refer to rotation of the planet relative to one of the nearby stars or relative to the distant stars? (we measure "sun days" and "distant star" days... they differ slightly because the earth rotates around the sun) ASSUME this "day" is 43 of our hours so there are 154800 of OUR sec in THEIR day as compared to 86400 of OUR sec in our day (approximations used liberally!)

Year: 865 days.
Does this mean our years? Probably not! For someone on SERPO it would be natural to measure a complete rotation around a sun (relative to distant stars) in terms of the rotations of the planet.If we assume this means THEIR days of 43 hours, then their year is (all numbers approximate) 1.3x 10⁸ of OUR seconds, whereas our year is 3.1x10⁷ of OUR seconds. Previously the Kepler law was applied under the assumption that the mass of the sun about which the planet rotates was the same as our sun. However, I, probably incorrectly, used 865 days as 865 of "our" days, which would be 2.37 of our years. I should have accounted for the 43 hour day. A day this long means that the rotation period is actually 865/365 x 43/24 = 4.2 of our years. For the earth, Kepler's rule can be written as follows, using years and AU
as the units of measurement (with 1 AU = radius of earth from sun)
(1)³/(1)² = 1 (AU)³/(year)². For a planet rotating about a sun with the mass of or sun in 4.2 years
Kepler's rule is written as r³/(4.2)² = 1 which leads to a radius of 2.6 AU or 240 million miles, noticeably larger than the 164 million I calculated before.

One problem with this sun data: if strictly interpreted as the distance from one sun is ALWAYS 91.4 million and the distance from the other is ALWAYS 96.5 then we have an "impossibility".... or at least I can't conceive of an orbit that keeps the distance from one constant at one value and at the same time keeps the distance from the other also at one value. I could conceive of an orbit that keeps the distance from one constant while the distance to the other varies with a periodicity that depends upon the period of rotation of the suns about one another and the rotation period (SERPO year) of the planet. If interpreted as average distances from the suns as SERPO travels in an elliptical (or more complicated) orbit, then there may be some way to explain this. Of course, those suns would be orbiting one another at some distance apart so if SERPO did have an orbit that encompassed both suns, then it must orbit the center of mass of the suns (unless there is some complex orbit, as I suggested previously, like a figure 8 or a warped ellipse). Need more info on the suns, orbit, etc.

OTHER AMUSING CALCULATIONS:
DIAMETER: earth: 7,900 mi = 12,700 KM. SERPO 7,200 mi.= 11,600 km
MASS: earth - 6 x 10²⁴ kg SERPO 5 x 10²⁴ kg (assumed to be mass in kg)
AVG DENSITY = mass/([pi/6]D³)
For Earth = 5590 kg/m³
For SERPO = 6,100 kg/m³
g (accel of grav at surface) = GM/(Rsurf)² where G = 6.7 x 10-11 m³kg^-1s^-2....
for earth (if you multiply the approximate numbers used here) g = 9.97 m/s²
(when done more accurately, 9.8 m/s²) for SERPO: 9.96 m/s²

AMAZING! (I had no idea that these numbers would come out so close)
(But why does the data table above show 9.60 m/s². Is G different in the SERPIAN system? )

Tilt 43 degrees.
Are these "earth degrees" of arc? That is quite a tilt, by the way. Would make considerable winter-summer differences in each hemisphere (upper, lower).

Temperature: 43 to 126 deg (F? C?).
Are these their degrees or ours? I presume ours (else why quote them). An interesting experiment would be to determine whether or not the blackbody curve on their planet is the same as on earth. If the physics is really different there might be a difference in BB radiation (which relates electromagnetic wave, thermodynamics and
quantum physics) There are lots more numerical "tests" one could do to compare these two systems. Only by doing such tests can one learn where the differences really are... or if things are the same after all. First applying what is known to some new phenomenon is part of the scientific method. IF what is known
fails to explain the phenomenon, then it is time to move out of the box.

Incidentally, people have been accused of not having an "open mind" because they have asked questions that might illuminate inconsistencies in the story and numerical data. However, I would guess that anyone on this email list has an open mind..... or wouldn't be here. Just be sure not to let your brains fall out.

1 December
I would like to suggest a new way of looking at time, which seems to clear up some of the Anonymous references.

If any particle, say an electron, is given a 'push', it doesn't move immediately: it just sits there for a time known as 'Tau': 2e²/3mc³, or 6.26 x 10^-24 seconds. After that time, it is instantaneously found to be moving at whatever velocity the 'push' imparts to it. This non-local behavior in time has been known for better than half a century, and is mostly just ignored as 'too small' to worry about. This was the conclusion of F. Rohrlich in 1962: "The Theory of the Electron":

www.philsoc.org/1962Spring/1526transcript.html

In his equation 9, he (incorrectly) derives this same time, 6 x 10^-24 seconds, noting that it represents "a non-local behavior in time" with "a lack of causality" at these time-intervals, but 'too small' to inviolate the theory.

However in particle colliders, this time interval can't be ignored, for every interaction, however violent, takes this minimum time before anything 'happens'. Modern non-technical 'explanations' of this can be found several places, for instance in Dr. Sam Treiman's book "The Odd Quantum" (Princeton University Press, 2000) pp. 97-98 in which he shows that the wave function does not change from T = 0 to T = Tau, with all the change happening at the latter point.

If this same behavior were measured as the output of an analog-to-digital converter, say a music synthesizer, it would be instantly recognized that the time Tau was the interval between digital slices of the analog wave. To put it more simply, a digital converter puts an analog wave, say a musical sequence, through a 'baloney slicer', giving a digital number to each intercept of the wave by each 'slice'. In the electron's case, the impulse is delivered at T = 0, but there is no measurement until the later time T = Tau, at which time the next 'slice' shows all the change in the analog wave over the (unmeasured) interval Tau. (The digital number is a 'point-particle' result, although the electron is and has evolved as 'wave'.)

This leads directly to the conclusion that time is quantized, a frequency, the interval Tau being the time between 'baloney slices' of an analog wave, the 'refresh rate' of our reality. Heisenberg was groping toward this conclusion, noting that Planck's Constant 'h' was not a 'pure' constant, but a constant of proportionality. He always thought it was the 'shadow' of some 'pure' constant in some other dimension: he chose distance, deriving the above relationship as a distance, 2e²/3mc², or about 1.8 x 10^-15 meters. (This is the measured diameter of the nucleon, NOT a coincidence.) He tried to slice the universe into tiny cubes this size, but this didn't work, so he abandoned it.

However Planck's Constant has the dimensions of energy times time. Since Planck was working with black-body energy, it has always simply been assumed that energy is quantized. However everything works exactly the same if one assumes that time is the quantized entity. And as Heisenberg noted, this interval, whether measured as distance or time, is exactly the 'width' of the uncertainty relationship, as of course the analog wave is unmeasured, hence uncertain, anywhere between 'slices'.

This conclusion, that time is quantized, or a frequency, of course has immense implications, the most startling perhaps being that we may live in a 'virtual', rather than a 'real', reality.

However if one recognizes that time is a frequency, one can then look for means of altering this frequency. This might mean that ones subjective time might remain the same, but the 'rest of the universe' might flash by much faster. "Visitors" have always said that time is much different from our understanding of it. I don't have the reference in front of me, but in the book "Witnessed" by Budd Hopkins an abductee describes being taken from a pool party in the midst of her family, which was frozen in place, splash from the pool hanging in air. Such a change in time's frequency might result in a journey of thirty-some light years taking only seven months or so.

Further implications of quantized time can be found in my papers, published in "Infinite Energy" magazine, issues 43, and 44, and available on the web at
www.openseti.org/Docs/HotsonPart1.pdf
and
www.openseti.org/Docs/HotsonPart2.pdf

THE BINARY STAR

Or Binary Star System

A Binary Star or star system is a pair of stars that are held together by their mutual gravitational attraction and revolve about their common center of mass. In 1650 Riccioli made the first binary system discovery, that of the middle star in the Big Dipper's handle, Zeta Urase Majoris. True binary stars are distinct from optical doubles—pairs of stars that lie nearly along the same line of sight from the earth but are not physically associated. 

Binary stars are grouped into three classes. A visual binary is a pair of stars that can be seen by direct telescopic observation to be a distinct pair with shared motion. A spectroscopic binary cannot be seen as two separate stars, even with the most powerful telescopes, but spectral lines from the pair show a periodic Doppler effect that indicates mutual revolution. Some lines indicate motion toward the earth while others indicate motion away; later, as the stars revolve around in their orbit, this pattern reverses. An eclipsing binary has the plane of its orbit lying near the line of sight, and shows a periodic fluctuation in brightness as one star passes in front of the other.

The more massive star (A) of a binary is called the primary, and the less massive (B) is called the secondary; e.g., Sirius A and Sirius B are the primary and secondary components of the Sirius system. It seems likely that more than two-thirds of the stars in our galaxy are binary or multiple (a system of more than two stars moving around their mutual center of mass), since many stars within 30 light-years of the sun are binary or multiple. The masses of the components of a spectroscopic binary can be determined from the observed motions and Newton's law of gravitation; binary stars are the only stars outside the solar system for which masses have been directly determined. Binary stars are thus important indicators from which the masses of all similar stars can be deduced. Measurements of the masses of some of the visual binary stars have been used to verify the mass-luminosity relation. Although most binary stars have distance between them, the components of W Ursae Majoris binaries are actually in contact with each other, their mutual gravity distorting their shapes into teardrops. There are binary systems in which one member is a pulsar: PSR 1913+16, for example, has an orbital period of 7 hr 45 min; in this case the other star is also a neutron star. The orbit period decreases as the system loses energy in the form of gravitational waves; used as a clock to measure the effect of the curvature of space-time on the binary's orbit, such a system confirms Einstein's theory of general relativity.

Sirius B has 5 planets orbiting it and three of them have life on it.

August 31, 2006

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RECORD OF CONVERSATION WITH SOMEONE IN THE KNOW - NAME WITHHELD FOR SECURITY REASONS

PILOT: I was a navigator in the Aurora program for 12 years. During that time, I was on another planet for 3 years.

I've been lecturing for about 3 weeks now. I wrote to Dr. Greer and haven't heard back from him yet.  I'm 55 years old now and decided to talk because I don't have much longer to live because of health reasons.  The ETs have been here a long time through out history. Early in the 40's, the ETs genetically enhanced 216 children. I am child #9.  I worked on a lot of government programs since then, including helping to develop the trip to the moon. I worked on Aurora 3. It can fly at almost the speed of light. I volunteered to do that. Unfortunately, the shielding on the plane from the plasma had a leak and it did a lot of damage to my body.  The damage was to all my organs including my skin. My skin actually falls off like powder. The body's molecular structure gets rearranged in a subtle way when you are in space.  I was picked up by a mother ship. It took 3 years to get to the planet, spent 3 years there and it took 3 years to get back.  ET's can't live in gravity anymore. They can only work in outer space, except for quick jaunts on earth.

Abductions are done in family lines for the most part because the are collecting the DNA the originally implanted in human beings a long time ago.

The moon we see in the sky is not a real body... it's artificial. 70 feet down is metal.  On the dark side of the moon is mining operations and bases. They have a base where they fly from the moon to other star systems 250 light years away.

Most ET species are over 10,000 years advanced ahead of us. Some species are even 100,000 or 1,000,000 years ahead of us. They are working to try to get us to have a one-world governmental system. This is starting to happen in Europe now.  Communications is the biggest problem. There are too many people with a negative nature.

Other advanced planets have had these types of being eliminated. The ETs want only positive oriented beings. They have helped mankind over the century with technology.  Unfortunately, other cultures in our history haven't capitalized on it, some only a little.  They have given various cultures different things, trying to spread the technology out. They gave rockets to the Chinese first but the Chinese didn't do anything with it but make fireworks and small rockets. The U.S. has made the best progress technologically.  We went from the Wright brothers to flying to the moon in only 50 years. That's pretty outstanding. However, they don't want to make the greatest benefits for the greatest amounts of people.

The technology has to be trickled out or there won't be any work for people. Dymler-Chrysler is coming out with the new engine which is technology from them.

We need more spiritual development because we are too violent. Off worlders believe in the Trinity and God, but there are too many religions here that disagree with each other.

The Planet is near Sirius. The planet is about 1/3 the size of earth. There is a lot of water there, but they don't have rain like we do, it's more like mist.  The sky is light purple because their sun is not like our sun. Their sun is white and it creates a different light refraction the our sun does. Their sun is a lot smaller than ours too.

There are some air breathers there and some methane breathers, which is like going into an aquarium.  

The planet is actually going around Sirius B.  There are 82 races of people on that planet and many other sub-species.  It belongs to the United Federation of Planets.  Humans are pretty crude in comparison to them.

NOTE:  See this page:  http://www.greatdreams.com/dogstar.htm

One of the greys who comes here are not very nice, and the beings they work for don't look the same as them.  Those greys are more like worker bees.  There is a Reptilian group like them too, not very nice.

The ETs use thought adjustments on humans during the night.  People should watch the movies, " The Day the Earth stood still" also "Independence Day'   There are still two hostile groups we are still dealing with.

The Triangle Platform craft actually has other crafts inside of it.  The craft over Phoenix was a TR-4.  There is also a TR-5 which carries the TR-3 and TR-5 inside of it.  The TR-5 is a carrier craft.  They are building 219 of these craft right now.

Also See: SCOT UFO INVESTIGATION

They are doing a massive cleanup of Area 51 because the Aurora flights did so much pollution there.  They are now increasing the size of Area 51  There are also 5 other places where they do some of the work also.  The more advanced stuff is in other places. Most of the work being done at area 51 now is cleanup from the TR-2 pollution.

The government doesn't want the public to know all the dangerous stuff they did there that polluted the area. They are trapping the small animals so they don't get out of the area.  But you didn't hear that from me.  (smile)

The US and Great Britain is looked upon as the most positive races of humans

The ACIO controls everything

NOTE: ACIO is a secret or unacknowledged department of the NSA. It is headquartered in Virginia, but also have personnel in Belgium, India, and Indonesia.  They are largely unknown, even to senior directors within the NSA. The ACIO is the lowest profile organization within the entire intelligence community. Its agenda is to research, assimilate, and replicate any technologies or discoveries of extraterrestrial origin.

Thanks Caryn,

Jack is confused, first he gets my email address wrong then confuses what I'm saying with what Victor says or even Rick Doty et al who both think the laws of Physics are different depending where you're at in the Cosmos. Richard Hoagland is no help since he contributes to those ideas. As for Zeta Reticuli it's 39.4 to 39.5 light years away. The one tenth is the binary's separation in light years which makes it a wide binary by 367 billion miles. The binary information coming from Anon only makes sense if it's not Zeta Reticuli. Of course with 116 people complaining I must be wrong right? With all those government contacts saying it's "ALL REAL" I must be dead wrong right?  The Science on Zeta 1 & 2 must be dead wrong because those GOV HUMINT sources have it right since they know their Science right? Another label is being closed minded.

As for the biology, you can have extreme diversity just like on Earth. DNA can have billions of different possible combinations creating some very exotic creatures. Biological Laws are not different. It's just that DNA can create diversity without new or different laws. Same goes for Physical Laws. You can have a wide diversity without new laws

Best

Robert C

caryn anscomb wrote:

Not sure you got this? I think Jack used your old e-mail addy.

Jack Sarfatti mailto:sarfatti@pacbell.net wrote:

Ron Stahl says Martinez is simply mainly copying Robert Collins's book Exempt from Disclosure in the Serpo story. Martinez is an idiot and so is Collins. Therefore, the physics anomalies are because they are incompetent not because of any real anomalies. This certainly seems to be a plausible hypothesis. Allegedly some other idiot in DIA is an accomplice. You can guess who I guess that is? :-)

 

On Dec 8, 2005, at 8:46 PM, Jack Sarfatti wrote:

 

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One cannot violate battle-tested laws of physics. Any story that does will be rejected by the physics community as complete fraud or idiocy. The physicists CONTROL the Military-Industrial-Intelligence Complex of The Western Wor! ld and even China. No politician will go against them. I mean no politician in his right mind of course. You see what is happening in the Intelligent Design Debate for example. That's another story - too complex for now. BOTH SIDES are wrong and both sides are right. The UNKNOWN is the NEW PHYSICS of Warp & Wormhole and Time Travel from the discovery of Dark Energy in only the past few years. That's The Joker, the Wild Card in The Cosmic Poker Game.

 

On Dec 8, 2005, at 8:22 PM, Jack Sarfatti wrote:

 

On Dec 8, 2005, at 7:32 PM, Bill Ryan on George Noory's C2C the other night wrote:

 

Hi, Jack –
I enjoyed our coffee this morning, and wide-ranging discussion!

Zeta R is 38.43 light years away, as I understand.

Best, Bill

OK that means for a 9-month trip (ship time)

Gamma = 1/(1 - (v/c)^2)^1/2 ~ (38.43)/(3/4) ~ 51  time dilation factor

Basically they are going very close to speed of light relative to Earth and from their POV ~ 40 light years Lorentz contracts by a factor ~ 50 so their actual distance in their proper frame is only ~ 9 light months going and what they said 13 months back (I will not adjust the numbers - exact figures don't matter - only qualitative idea of a BIG TIME DILATION FACTOR.

 

For round trip, if they did not use geod! esic warp drive without any time dilation as in Alcubierre's toy model, if they used conventional non-geodesic propulsion - with enormous energy needed, then if say they took say about 2 years of their time to make the trip backwards and forwards Earth to Serpo, then ~ 100 years of Earth time would pass before they got back. If they left in 1965 they could not get back here until ~ 2065! (actually later than that but exact numbers don't matter). No cheap way out of this like Richard Hoagland suggested. No physicist will buy that one.

Therefore, the SERPO disinformation is inconsistent with GLOBAL SPECIAL RELATIVITY though not with General Relativity necessarily - though they do not give enough information.

 

"A nice dilemma we have here.

 That calls for all our wit"  Trial by Jury ?

"Quiet calm deliberation disentangles every knot" Gondoliers

"A paradox, a paradox, a most unusual paradox"  Pirates of Penzance

 

What is happening is not only weirder than we imagine, it is weirder than most humans CAN imagine.

 

B & K listen to

 

http://qedcorp.com/book/psi/hitweapon.html

look at

http://stardrive.org/cartoon/spectra.html

http://stardrive.org/cartoon/MagicBean.html

http://stardrive.org/cartoon/dan.html

 

RELEASE 24 - 20 June 2007: Area 51 Scientist tell-ALL of ALIENcraft!

Attention: SCIENTISTS, PHYSICISTS and OTHER ASSORTED 'BACKYARD' SCIENTIFIC TYPES: LEARN FROM AN ACTUAL INSIDER THE SECRETS OF THE ALIEN PROPULSION SYSTEM AND WHY WE CAN'T 'CRACK' AND DUPLICATE IT! / LEARN WHAT MAKES THE ET CRAFT GO FROM POINT "A" to "B" WITH LITTLE FUEL ON HAND, BUT "WHICH CREATES ENORMOUS AMOUNTS OF ENERGY!" / UNDERSTAND WHY "2 + 2 = 5" IN THE REST OF THE COSMOS EXCEPT HERE ON PRIMITIVE PLANET EARTH! / LEARN THE PROPER PLACE FOR OUR QUANTUM PHYSICS and MECHANICS ... IN THE LATRINE! / THIS IS A "KEEPER!"

MODERATOR's NOTES and EXPLANATION: What follows is an exclusive interview between an Area 51 scientist and Linda Moulton-Howe conducted in April of 1995. 

To the best of ANONYMOUS and the DIA-6's knowledge, THE CONTENTS OF THIS EXPLOSIVE INTERVIEW HAVE NEVER BEEN MADE PUBLIC perhaps due to the agreement Moulton-Howe entered into with the USG at the time of the interview.

In a telephone call I placed to the residence of Moulton-Howe on Sunday morning, 6-17-07, I have confirmed with her that the following interview never appeared on her Web site:  http://www.earthfiles.com/

Regardless, ANONYMOUS has now directed me to release an abstract of the 5-page interview which is reproduced below. 

As always, my OWN comments/notes are offset by the use of [ ] brackets. 

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This is raw intelligence material and dissemination to unauthorized personnel is prohibited. 

This attachment was not given a security classification. 

Interview with Dr Craig McPherson, scientist and former employee of Area
51.

Dr McPherson worked at Area 51 from May 1956 until September 1988. This interview was made by Linda Howe during a meeting at the Las Vegas Hilton on April 8, 1995. Under a written agreement between Linda Howe and Dr McPherson, the contents of the interview could NOT be made public. A U.S. government source recorded the interview. What follows is a summary of the information given by Dr McPherson.  

NOTE: A background check of Dr Craig H McPherson was conducted. Dr McPherson obtained a security clearance based on an "Expanded Background Investigation" in August of 1956. The clearance was upgraded at various intervals until his retirement. Dr McPherson was a Federal Civil Service employee from May 23, 1956 until October 1, 1988.  

Dr McPherson retired at the Federal Civil Service grade of GS-16. Dr McPherson was born on April 8, 1920 in Scranton, PA. Dr McPherson served in the U.S. Army Infantry in Europe from June 1944 until October 1946. Dr McPherson obtained the military rank of Sergeant at the time of his discharge. Dr McPherson attended Penn State University, the University of Pennsylvania and MIT. 

Interview of Dr Craig McPherson by Linda Howe on April 8, 1995.
Location: Las Vegas, NV. Time frame: 1224 hrs - 1713 hrs.

[Dr Craig McPherson begins speaking.] 

I served in the U.S. Army from 1944 to 1946. After discharge, I attended college and eventually obtained a PhD in physics. I worked for private industry from 1955 to 1956. In May 1956, I was hired by the U.S. Air Force as an Applied Physics Specialist. 

My first assignment was at the Nellis AFB, NV, test facility. I worked at Indian Springs AFB, NV, for the first seven months. My work pertained to the examination of Foreign Technology. The foreign technology consisted of Soviet and Chinese equipment. Most of the equipment was obtained from a friendly government. The equipment consisted of tanks,  electronics equipment, weapon systems and other related items.

During this time frame, the Air Force built an underground facility at Groom Lake. The construction started in 1955 and ended sometime during the summer of 1959. I worked in the Foreign Technology Applications Studies Division (FTASD). We had three (3) different facilities, two of them at Groom Lake and one at Indian Springs. We later obtained a facility at Tonopah.

Once the underground facility was ready, we moved in. This was sometime in early 1960. The facility was one of the biggest underground facilities ever built. We must have had over a billion square feet of space. In later years, the underground facility, code named "Deep Space," was expanded to include three (3) different levels. 

I was involved in the research and development of the SR-71. We had several different aircraft on the drawing board. The FTASD had more than 65 scientists, technicians and military personnel assigned. Most of our work was very unique. We would obtain some information from the Foreign Technology Acquisition Group (FTAG).

This group obtained information from foreign governments or from intelligence agencies. Along with the studies of the foreign equipment that we had available at the facility, we could apply advanced scientific principles to further our own technology. We made terrific advancements during this time frame.  

During this time period, I NEVER saw a UFO or anything resembling a UFO at the Groom Lake Test Facility. I did NOT see any ETs nor did I ever hear anyone mention that our government was reverse engineering an ET device. 

In the summer of 1969, I was transferred from the FTASD to the Advance Studies Group (ASG). The ASG was a very secret group located in the second level of Area 51, Complex III. When I first entered the facility, I had to obtain an additional security clearance. During my in-briefing of the ASG, I was informed that our group was working on advanced research principles involving NONconventional flying devices.

I saw my first nonconventional device within a few days of being assigned to the ASG. The flying device was code named "Atlas-Tank" (AT). It was A FLYING SAUCER. I worked on specific physics problems associated with this unique design. We had manufactured the AT over a period of eight (8) years. 

I was brought into the program during the latter part of the ground testing. We solved most of the unique problems, but we still could not get the AT to fly. Several different propulsion systems were used, but none of them worked. Sometime in 1973, I was given another security clearance. I was moved to another facility within Complex III. This was a new facility. I was assigned to the ASG-Alpha.

Once in the facility, I was given access to another "flying saucer." This appeared to be the same shape as the AT. However, it was code named "Blue Chariot." Although I did not have access to the interior of the BC, I did observe the outer area of the flying craft. At no time was I told that either of these flying machines were ET related. I worked in the Alpha branch for several months before moving back to ASG.

In 1973, a terrible accident occurred at the Complex III facility. The propulsion system on the BC was activated and an explosion occurred killing six (6) technicians. Actually, it was NOT an explosion. A bolt or plasma ball came out of the propulsion system and struck the technicians, VAPORIZING THEM. The BC was then taken to another facility, which was located in a very remote area of Area 51. This area was adjacent to the old above ground nuclear testing land.

Scientists learned how the propulsion system worked. They could activate the system, which would generate an enormous amount of energy. The energy could be formed into "balls of plasma" or a steady stream of energy. The system could generate energy equivalent to a nuclear explosion from a range of 0.1 kT up to 350 kT.

The strange thing about this energy system was the lack of radiation.  The system could generate this enormous amount of power, but it would NOT leave any residual radiation. This puzzled scientists. When I retired in 1988, NO ONE could understand the system. They could activate it, but could NOT understand how it worked.  

At no time was I ever told that the new propulsion system was given to us by ETs. Nor was I ever told that ETs provided us with any technology. We assumed the new propulsion system was developed by the Soviets. Although no one told us that the new propulsion system and the BC were ET related, we figured they that were.  

We had our own private discussions about the technology. I could give you the technical details of the propulsion system, but that is still HIGHLY CLASSIFIED. I can say the system operates on some unknown principles. We tried, quite unsuccessfully, to apply our knowledge of physics, quantum theory and other principles to this new system.

In OUR science, there are two (2) basic types of bonds by which atoms form molecules - ionic and covalent bonds. An atom is normally electrically neutral. It has the same number of positively charged protons in its nucleus as it has negatively charged electrons in captive orbits.

In THIS system things are different. There is an UNKNOWN METHOD by which the atoms are changed. Instead of ionic or covalent bonds, this new system creates a THIRD TYPE of bonding principle. This new type of bonding causes atoms to take on a different form. Atoms go from a normal state -- and when I say "normal," I mean normal in OUR science -- to a "multiplexed" form. In other words, the atoms are doubled or "piggy-backed" onto each other.  

The atoms are somewhat mutated, but maintain their original shape. I KNOW THIS IS VERY DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND. That is why we still DON'T understand it. I'll give you a simple example. 

If you can recall basic chemistry, you will remember that a hydrogen atom consists of a single proton -- the nucleus -- with one electron in a captive state. When two hydrogen atoms approach each other, their combined energy becomes lower if they SHARE their electrons. Well, in this new system, a hydrogen atom, subjected to this new system (inside this propulsion system) changes to a NEW principle. 

First, when two hydrogen atoms approach each other, their combined energy level becomes MULTIPLIED through this strange bonding principle. So, instead of having a lower energy level, the energy is MULTIPLIED by the number of atoms of hydrogen that is bonded. If we used the QUANTUM IDEA to understand this, we would conclude that quantum principles do NOT work in this new system.  

Normally, in our system, positively-charged ions attract and bond to negatively-charged ions to form molecules. This is NOT the case in this new system. It makes NO difference whether the ions are positive or negative as they bond together regardless of valence. We do know that inside this propulsion system, something causes these strange unnatural phenomena to occur.  

Two plates of metal sit inside a chamber. This chamber is a vacuum. The chamber is a PERFECT VACUUM, that is, there is no outside air or other gases inside this chamber. A tube running from one chamber into another, pushes a gas inside. A third chamber forces still another gas to enter the first chamber. We know that the gases push against these two plates of metal and cause an ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF ENERGY TO BE CREATED. 

Lastly, just before the gases are "mixed," there is a form of light that is focused against the outgoing energy. This light is of a lower frequency. Normally, in our quantum theory, a small frequency means a lower energy. However, is this system, the lower frequency of light was measured to contain an enormous amount of energy exerted upon this outgoing energy. When I left in 1988, we could NOT understand how the gases were mixed nor could we determine HOW the light was generated. 

You ask about the metals inside this vacuum container. Quite intriguing. First, the metal strips are located inside Container #1. They are setting perpendicular to each other at exactly 6.54 cm apart. Each metal strip measures 18.45 cm x 9.43 cm. Each metal strip is 3.46 cm wide. The sides of the strips facing each other contain a shiny metal coating. The opposite sides contain a dull coating.

Looking at the metal strips from above, one will notice that another substance is sandwiched between the outer two substances. The materials in each of the metal strips have never been identified. We do know the density of the metal strips and the hardness as measured by the Mohs scale.

The density of the metal strips are 94.5 [9.45?] on the shiny side and 34.2 [3.42?] on the opposite side. I believe the density or specific gravity was measured by the conventional method, in that the value is grams per centimeter cubed. NOT being a metallurgist, I cannot make comments on these values. But what IS interesting is that these two strips of metals are located inside a somewhat round vacuum container. The outer coating of this container is also shiny.

You mention the gases. I am not a chemist. I knew very little about the gases contained in Containers #2 and #3. These gases are two distinct types. One is a gas-liquid type and the other is a solid gas. Don't ask me to explain these two; I don't believe that our chemical engineers could do that. I just know that once the device is activated, the two gases mix and create energy by some method.

I DON'T want my name connected to a story about ETs.

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More to come....

- ANONYMOUS  
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MODERATOR's FOOTNOTES: 

COVALENT BOND: A chemical bond formed when electrons are shared between two atoms. Usually, each atom contributes one electron to form a pair of electrons that are shared by both atoms. 

IONIC BOND: A chemical bond formed between two ions with opposite charges. Ionic bonds form when one atom gives up one or more electrons to another atom. These bonds can form between a pair of atoms or between molecules and are the type of bond found in salts.

IONIC PROPULSION: Propulsion by the reactive thrust of a high-speed beam of similarly charged ions ejected by an ion engine.  

KILOTON: The explosive force of 1,000 tons of TNT; a unit for measuring the power of thermonuclear weapons. 

MOHS SCALE: Hardness is one of the chief ways used to recognize a mineral. It is a scale used to measure the relative hardness of a mineral by its resistance to scratching. In 1822, Friedrich Mohs [German-Austrian: 1773-1839] created a hardness scale based on assigning numbers to common minerals. The concept is that a harder mineral (one with a higher number) can scratch a softer one.

Other materials may be correlated to this scale. For example, steel used in a pocketknife is about 5.5 and glass is about 6, so glass can scratch steel, but a common pocketknife will NOT scratch glass.  

From softest to hardest, the 10 minerals of the Mohs scale are:

talc = measuring 1 on the hardness scale  
gypsum = 2    
calcite = 3  
fluorite = 4 
apatite = 5 
orthoclase feldspar = 6 
quartz = 7 
topaz =  8  
corundum = 9 (including ruby and sapphire)
diamond = 10 / A mineral form of carbon that is extremely hard and transparent. It usually occurs as crystals shaped as octahedrons. Diamonds come from unusual structures similar to volcanoes called pipes; the diamonds are embedded in a mineral called kimberlite. Diamonds form at great depths under high pressure and temperature, then are carried to the surface in a kimberlite pipe. Because diamonds are hard and resist wear, they also survive passage from original locations into gravel
deposits in rivers and on beaches.    

Reference:  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohs_hardness_scale

METALS/MINERALS ADDENDUM:  

The Mohs scale is a RELATIVE hardness scale (minerals relative to each other.)  There are several more hardness scales. One scale is known as the ABSOLUTE HARDNESS scale:

Talc = 1
Gypsum = 2
Calcite = 9  
Fluorite = 21
Apatite = 48 
Orthoclase = 72 
Quartz = 100
Topaz = 200  
Corundum = 400 
Diamond = 1500  

For example, this scale indicates that corundum is twice as hard as topaz, and diamond is almost four times as hard as corundum.  

Reference:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corundum

It is unclear whether Dr Craig McPherson was giving hardness numbers on the Absolute scale, such as 94.5, while previously referring to the Mohs scale. Metals (such as a typical knife blade) can be above 50 on the Absolute hardness scale, and hardened steel can be 100 or more.  
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Sources: THE AMERICAN HERITAGE SCIENCE DICTIONARY, ISBN# 0618455043,$19.95, 695 pp. 

DISCOVER THE SCIENCE ALMANAC: THE DEFINITIVE SCIENCE RESOURCE, ISBN# 0786887591, $13.99, 790 pp. 
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LATE-BREAKING RELATED DEVELOPMENT TO "Project SERPO" POSTING #24:
ENORMOUS NEW HANGAR UNDER CONSTRUCTION AT AREA 51 ... IS ET MOVING IN PERMANENTLY COME NOVEMBER 2009?!   

FLASH NOTICE: Here is an item of interest for the public, since our hard-earned tax dollars are involved, and hopefully, at work at the base for our "Visitor" friends! The estimated size is 200 ft x 500 ft and 100 feet tall.

http://www.dreamlandresort.com/forum/messages/22327.html

http://www.dreamlandresort.com/area51/new_structure_2006.html

http://www.dreamlandresort.com/area51/new_structure_2006.html

http://www.dreamlandresort.com/

After the Air Force took over in the late 1980s, the name Area 51 was officially changed to: AIR FORCE FLIGHT TEST CENTER, DETACHMENT 3 or AFFTC DET 3. This is still the official designation of the Groom Lake base.

© 2007 Dreamland Resort.com / PHOTO: June 10, 2007 from Tikaboo Peak.
 

Attention: SCIENTISTS and PHYSICISTS: THIS IS THE "Project SERPO" POSTING YOU'VE ALL BEEN BREATHLESSLY WAITING FOR! / A BOMBSHELL WORLDWIDE EXCLUSIVE: A HIGHLY DETAILED DESCRIPTION and SCIENTIFIC EXPLANATION OF THE INTERIOR OF THE EBEN ALIEN CRAFT FROM THE  ROSWELL CRASH OF JULY 1947! / COMPILED AND WRITTEN BY THE "WHIZ KIDS" OF THE ALPHA TEAM AT THE LOS ALAMOS NATIONAL LABORATORY, THIS WILL GIVE YOU THE  SCIENTIFIC NOMENCLATURE YOU'VE ALL BEEN WAITING A LIFETIME FOR! / DO ALL OF YOU HAVE YOUR "EYES ONLY" MAJIC CLEARANCE?! / IF NOT, HIT THAT DELETE" KEY BEFORE PROCEEDING!

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EXAMINATION OF THE EBEN TRANSPORT CRAFT 

ALPHA TEAM RESEARCH: 

1) While electric charges cannot be conducted from the charge-accumulating fluid (Sims-Kyle) directly through the Toroid walls
and edges, there will be a capacitive effect which will accumulate charges of an opposite polarity, on the outside surfaces which will correspond to the inner ones in intensity and location. 

This "diffuse layer," as it's called by the LANL Bravo Team, of electric charges, occurs most effectively when the liquid (e-plasma), is moving, and the faster the e-plasma moves, the more pronounced will be the separation effect of its electric ions from the ions in the differently moving diffused layer outside. 

2) In this respect, the charges that accumulate outside in the space around the lower inner edge of the Toroid in its diffuse layer that encircles the base disc assembly (Tarabin) would be negative.  And the charges accumulating around the outside of the whole of the outer circumference of the Toroid would be positive. The result being much the same as dipolar electrodes -- building up between them electrostatic field lines and a potential magnetic field around those lines. 

3) Inside the craft, over the top horizontal place of the Toroid, which also forms the lower face of the radial planar guide (Merdan), the induced electrical charges react with the Toroid's magnetic field so as to form a horizontally rotating field of polarized (positive) ions. 

This revolving positive field reacts with the normal air outside of the craft to initiate an inflowing of polarized and neutrally-charged air which, as soon as it passes through the craft's circumferential duct and over the Toroid's electrically-charged outer edge, becomes positively ionized from the effect of sharp-edge ionization.  

When the inflowing air passes through the duct, its specially designed curved surface acts as a constrictor to speed up the air flow thereby creating a low-pressure area inside the duct. A computer-like system controls air flow pressure and the diffusing of the Toroid's actuator trim system.   

4) The increase in the circumferential duct's peripheral potential correspondingly increases the oppositely-charged potential of the fluid on the outside of the Toroid.  

5) When the magnetic fields begin to resonate, the flux lines will create electrical eddy currents over the under-face of the floor
surface, so that a skin of charged particles will circulate around the surface. The base can be capacitively coupled to the upper outside dome-shell of the craft, so as to enable the metallic dome to acquire an outside positive charge. The dome itself can be made to store tremendous amounts of electrical energy, over its whole surface area, just like a standard capacitor.  

6) The central rotating assembly is made up of four (4) bi-polar sphere-sets held equally spaced on a metallic plate. The plate is formed in such a way as to fit inside the perimeter of the inner edge of the Toroid, so as to be able to rotate freely with the sphere-set, but to also form an electrostatic coupling with the charges on the lower edge of the Toroid. This base plate also has a small diameter emission hole at its center. Pico-initiated jets push the air flow through this hole. 

7) The base plates, as well as holding the four (4) bi-poles, also have to impede and constrict the lower magnetic field of the Toroid, so as to direct the flux lines (Reno-Saber) through, or mainly through, its central hole. This then would not be made of the same construction as the Toroid Shell and would be made of a non-magnetic metal (similar to the magnesium/bismuth/zinc-like material found in Roswell (Number 1) on the lower plates. The base plate material is similar to the Roswell Number 1 material, but differs in composition since it contains an aluminum-like substance as the bonding agent.  

The base plate must contain some bismuth-like material since bismuth  does have a sort of quality needed as it does exhibit what is called "leg current" when pulsed currents are applied to it at a very low frequency (2 MHz - 8 MHz), and in a strong magnetic field indicating that it has capacitance. Bismuth also has a high atomic mass and, of course, a Hall-affects [effects?] resistance or diamagnetism.

[NOTE: See "MODERATOR's NOTES" at end.] 

Either way, non-magnetic material, while not able to prevent all magnetic flux lines from penetrating through it, will convert some of the flux to a rotating electric field (eddy currents) over its surfaces, which will be supplemental to the actions of other charged particles spinning around the large, lower spheres by other interactions, and these rotations will coalesce into a flux-constricting force. The base plate metal could also be laminated on its outside with some sort of insulating material that has not yet been found.

8) During recent tests, it was determined that Eben 1 sent out an electronic signature of super-high radio frequency electromagnetic pulses. The pulses are in the three (3) GHz region of the electromagnetic spectrum at a wavelength of one (1) centimeter. Because the waves are so short, and their frequency is so high, the normal sort of capacitance-inductance oscillator with its conductor/antenna emission systems can't cope, and so a different sort of electronics technology is needed to radiate these waves out of the craft into the air or space around it.  

There are various methods of doing this with short "millimeter" waves, one of which is called the transmission line, yet another is with parabolic antennas, and still another is the waveguide. Of these three (3), the best-suited systems for propagated electric field propulsion is the waveguide, which basically is a rectangular metal tube whereby at one end, the microwave power is pumped in and, at the other end, the delivery of these power waves occurs with almost undiminished intensity.  

The science of waveguides is quite fascinating and is nothing like cable or conductor-type electronics; the size and the very shape of a waveguide computes in an entirely different fashion toward the end result. Microwaves though, have a very useful range of frequencies; at one particular frequency (3 GHz for atmospheric air), they can create the spin-resonance in the electrons of atoms of the gases in the surrounding air.

Electron spin resonance -- ESR -- raises the normal mode "lower" energy state, the visual effect of which is an emission of light photons of various colors (the subject of which is already covered in LANL-Z Alpha Report).  

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More to come....

- ANONYMOUS   
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MODERATOR's NOTES: 

Name: Bismuth 
Symbol: Bi 
Atomic No.: 83 
Atomic Weight: 208.98038 
Density: 9.79 (g/cc or g/L) 
Specific Gravity: 9.747 
Valence: 3, 5 
Melting Point: 271.40° Celsius / 520° Fahrenheit   
Boiling Point: 1,564° Celsius / 2,847° Fahrenheit    

BISMUTH:  A hard, brittle, metallic chemical element discovered in 1753 and derives its name from the German "weisse masse," or "white mass." It is grayish-white with a tinge of red, or pinkish-white that is used chiefly in making alloys of a low melting point and in medicine, as well as for fire-safety devices. It is a crystalline metallic element that occurs in nature as a free metal and in various ores.

Bismuth is the most strongly diamagnetic element and has the highest atomic number of all the stable elements. It is the element most repelled by a magnetic field, and its electrical resistance increases the most in a magnetic field. Like water, it expands upon
solidification. 

FACTOID: It is the "bis" in Pepto BISmol. 
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SUPPLEMENTARY INFORMATION FOR THE ROSWELL, NM, 1947 UFO CRASH

ROSWELL UFO '47 CRASH: 
http://www.ufocasebook.com/rameymemo.html

The ROSWELL FILES:  
http://www.roswellfiles.com/

The ROSWELL UFO MUSEUM:  
http://www.roswellufomuseum.com/

The ROSWELL INVESTIGATOR, CAREY & SCHMITT's:    
http://www.roswellinvestigator.com/
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Release 23

RELEASE 24 - 20 June 2007: Area 51 Scientist tell-ALL of ALIENcraft!

Attention: SCIENTISTS, PHYSICISTS and OTHER ASSORTED 'BACKYARD'  SCIENTIFIC TYPES: LEARN FROM AN ACTUAL INSIDER THE SECRETS OF THE ALIEN PROPULSION SYSTEM AND WHY WE CAN'T 'CRACK' AND DUPLICATE IT! / LEARN WHAT MAKES THE ET CRAFT GO FROM POINT "A" to "B" WITH LITTLE FUEL ON HAND, BUT "WHICH CREATES ENORMOUS AMOUNTS OF ENERGY!" / UNDERSTAND WHY "2 + 2 = 5" IN THE REST OF THE COSMOS EXCEPT HERE ON PRIMITIVE PLANET  EARTH! / LEARN THE PROPER PLACE FOR OUR QUANTUM PHYSICS and MECHANICS ... IN THE LATRINE! / THIS IS A "KEEPER!"

MODERATOR's NOTES and EXPLANATION: What follows is an exclusive interview between an Area 51 scientist and Linda Moulton-Howe conducted in April of 1995. 

To the best of ANONYMOUS and the DIA-6's knowledge, THE CONTENTS OF THIS EXPLOSIVE INTERVIEW HAVE NEVER BEEN MADE PUBLIC perhaps due to the agreement Moulton-Howe entered into with the USG at the time of the interview.

In a telephone call I placed to the residence of Moulton-Howe on Sunday  morning, 6-17-07, I have confirmed with her that the following interview never appeared on her Web site: 

http://www.earthfiles.com/

Regardless, ANONYMOUS has now directed me to release an abstract of the 5-page interview which is reproduced below. 

As always, my OWN comments/notes are offset by the use of [ ] brackets. 

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This is raw intelligence material and dissemination to unauthorized personnel is prohibited. 

This attachment was not given a security classification. 

Interview with Dr Craig McPherson, scientist and former employee of Area 51.

Dr McPherson worked at Area 51 from May 1956 until September 1988. This interview was made by Linda Howe during a meeting at the Las Vegas Hilton on April 8, 1995. Under a written agreement between Linda Howe  and Dr McPherson, the contents of the interview could NOT be made public. A U.S. government source recorded the interview. What follows is a summary of the information given by Dr McPherson.  

NOTE: A background check of Dr Craig H McPherson was conducted. Dr  McPherson obtained a security clearance based on an "Expanded Background Investigation" in August of 1956. The clearance was upgraded at various  intervals until his retirement. Dr McPherson was a Federal Civil Service employee from May 23, 1956 until October 1, 1988.  

Dr McPherson retired at the Federal Civil Service grade of GS-16. Dr McPherson was born on April 8, 1920 in Scranton, PA. Dr McPherson served  in the U.S. Army Infantry in Europe from June 1944 until October 1946.
Dr McPherson obtained the military rank of Sergeant at the time of his discharge. Dr McPherson attended Penn State University, the University of Pennsylvania and MIT. 

Interview of Dr Craig McPherson by Linda Howe on April 8, 1995.
Location: Las Vegas, NV. Time frame: 1224 hrs - 1713 hrs.

[Dr Craig McPherson begins speaking.] 

I served in the U.S. Army from 1944 to 1946. After discharge, I attended college and eventually obtained a PhD in physics. I worked for private industry from 1955 to 1956. In May 1956, I was hired by the U.S. Air Force as an Applied Physics Specialist. 

My first assignment was at the Nellis AFB, NV, test facility. I worked at Indian Springs AFB, NV, for the first seven months. My work pertained to the examination of Foreign Technology. The foreign technology consisted of Soviet and Chinese equipment. Most of the equipment was obtained from a friendly government. The equipment consisted of tanks,
electronics equipment, weapon systems and other related items.

During this time frame, the Air Force built an underground facility at Groom Lake. The construction started in 1955 and ended sometime during the summer of 1959. I worked in the Foreign Technology Applications Studies Division (FTASD). We had three (3) different facilities, two of them at Groom Lake and one at Indian Springs. We later obtained a facility at Tonopah.

Once the underground facility was ready, we moved in. This was sometime in early 1960. The facility was one of the biggest underground facilities ever built. We must have had over a billion square feet of  space. In later years, the underground facility, code named "Deep Space," was expanded to include three (3) different levels. 

I was involved in the research and development of the SR-71. We had several different aircraft on the drawing board. The FTASD had more than 65 scientists, technicians and military personnel assigned. Most of our work was very unique. We would obtain some information from the Foreign Technology Acquisition Group (FTAG).

This group obtained information from foreign governments or from intelligence agencies. Along with the studies of the foreign equipment that we had available at the facility, we could apply advanced scientific principles to further our own technology. We made terrific advancements during this time frame.  

During this time period, I NEVER saw a UFO or anything resembling a UFO at the Groom Lake Test Facility. I did NOT see any ETs nor did I ever hear anyone mention that our government was reverse engineering an ET device. 

In the summer of 1969, I was transferred from the FTASD to the Advance Studies Group (ASG). The ASG was a very secret group located in the second level of Area 51, Complex III. When I first entered the facility, I had to obtain an additional security clearance. During my in-briefing of the ASG, I was informed that our group was working on advanced
research principles involving NONconventional flying devices. I saw my first nonconventional device within a few days of being assigned to the ASG. The flying device was code named "Atlas-Tank" (AT). It was A FLYING SAUCER. I worked on specific physics problems associated with this unique design. We had manufactured the AT over a period of
eight (8) years. 

I was brought into the program during the latter part of the ground testing. We solved most of the unique problems, but we still could not get the AT to fly. Several different propulsion systems were used, but none of them worked. Sometime in 1973, I was given another security clearance. I was moved to another facility within Complex III. This was a new facility. I was assigned to the ASG-Alpha.

Once in the facility, I was given access to another "flying saucer." This appeared to be the same shape as the AT. However, it was code named "Blue Chariot." Although I did not have access to the interior of the BC, I did observe the outer area of the flying craft. At no time was I told that either of these flying machines were ET related. I worked in
the Alpha branch for several months before moving back to ASG.

In 1973, a terrible accident occurred at the Complex III facility. The propulsion system on the BC was activated and an explosion occurred killing six (6) technicians. Actually, it was NOT an explosion. A bolt or plasma ball came out of the propulsion system and struck the technicians, VAPORIZING THEM. The BC was then taken to another facility,
which was located in a very remote area of Area 51. This area was adjacent to the old above ground nuclear testing land.

Scientists learned how the propulsion system worked. They could activate the system, which would generate an enormous amount of energy. The energy could be formed into "balls of plasma" or a steady stream of energy. The system could generate energy equivalent to a nuclear explosion from a range of 0.1 kT up to 350 kT.

The strange thing about this energy system was the lack of radiation. The system could generate this enormous amount of power, but it would NOT leave any residual radiation. This puzzled scientists. When I retired in 1988, NO ONE could understand the system. They could activate it, but could NOT understand how it worked.  

At no time was I ever told that the new propulsion system was given to us by ETs. Nor was I ever told that ETs provided us with any technology. We assumed the new propulsion system was developed by the Soviets. Although no one told us that the new propulsion system and the BC were ET related, we figured they that were.  

We had our own private discussions about the technology. I could give you the technical details of the propulsion system, but that is still HIGHLY CLASSIFIED. I can say the system operates on some unknown principles. We tried, quite unsuccessfully, to apply our knowledge of physics, quantum theory and other principles to this new system.

In OUR science, there are two (2) basic types of bonds by which atoms form molecules - ionic and covalent bonds. An atom is normally electrically neutral. It has the same number of positively charged protons in its nucleus as it has negatively charged electrons in captive orbits.

In THIS system things are different. There is an UNKNOWN METHOD by which the atoms are changed. Instead of ionic or covalent bonds, this new system creates a THIRD TYPE of bonding principle. This new type of bonding causes atoms to take on a different form. Atoms go from a normal state -- and when I say "normal," I mean normal in OUR science -- to a "multiplexed" form. In other words, the atoms are doubled or "piggy-backed" onto each other.  

The atoms are somewhat mutated, but maintain their original shape. I KNOW THIS IS VERY DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND. That is why we still DON'T understand it. I'll give you a simple example. 

If you can recall basic chemistry, you will remember that a hydrogen atom consists of a single proton -- the nucleus -- with one electron in a captive state. When two hydrogen atoms approach each other, their combined energy becomes lower if they SHARE their electrons. Well, in this new system, a hydrogen atom, subjected to this new system (inside
this propulsion system) changes to a NEW principle. 

First, when two hydrogen atoms approach each other, their combined energy level becomes MULTIPLIED through this strange bonding principle. So, instead of having a lower energy level, the energy is MULTIPLIED by the number of atoms of hydrogen that is bonded. If we used the QUANTUM IDEA to understand this, we would conclude that quantum principles do NOT work in this new system.  

Normally, in our system, positively-charged ions attract and bond to negatively-charged ions to form molecules. This is NOT the case in this new system. It makes NO difference whether the ions are positive or negative as they bond together regardless of valence. We do know that inside this propulsion system, something causes these strange unnatural phenomena to occur.  

Two plates of metal sit inside a chamber. This chamber is a vacuum. The chamber is a PERFECT VACUUM, that is, there is no outside air or other gases inside this chamber. A tube running from one chamber into another, pushes a gas inside. A third chamber forces still another gas to enter the first chamber. We know that the gases push against these two plates of metal and cause an ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF ENERGY TO BE CREATED. 

Lastly, just before the gases are "mixed," there is a form of light that is focused against the outgoing energy. This light is of a lower frequency. Normally, in our quantum theory, a small frequency means a lower energy. However, is this system, the lower frequency of light was measured to contain an enormous amount of energy exerted upon this outgoing energy. When I left in 1988, we could NOT understand how the gases were mixed nor could we determine HOW the light was generated. 

You ask about the metals inside this vacuum container. Quite intriguing. First, the metal strips are located inside Container #1. They are setting perpendicular to each other at exactly 6.54 cm apart. Each metal strip measures 18.45 cm x 9.43 cm. Each metal strip is 3.46 cm wide. The sides of the strips facing each other contain a shiny metal coating. The
opposite sides contain a dull coating.

Looking at the metal strips from above, one will notice that another substance is sandwiched between the outer two substances. The materials in each of the metal strips have never been identified. We do know the density of the metal strips and the hardness as measured by the Mohs scale.

The density of the metal strips are 94.5 [9.45?] on the shiny side and 34.2 [3.42?] on the opposite side. I believe the density or specific gravity was measured by the conventional method, in that the value is grams per centimeter cubed. NOT being a metallurgist, I cannot make comments on these values. But what IS interesting is that these two strips of metals are located inside a somewhat round vacuum container. The outer coating of this container is also shiny.

You mention the gases. I am not a chemist. I knew very little about the gases contained in Containers #2 and #3. These gases are two distinct types. One is a gas-liquid type and the other is a solid gas. Don't ask me to explain these two; I don't believe that our chemical engineers could do that. I just know that once the device is activated, the two gases mix and create energy by some method.

I DON'T want my name connected to a story about ETs.

- END -

More to come....

- ANONYMOUS  
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MODERATOR's FOOTNOTES: 

COVALENT BOND: A chemical bond formed when electrons are shared between two atoms. Usually, each atom contributes one electron to form a pair of electrons that are shared by both atoms. 

IONIC BOND: A chemical bond formed between two ions with opposite charges. Ionic bonds form when one atom gives up one or more electrons to another atom. These bonds can form between a pair of atoms or between molecules and are the type of bond found in salts.

IONIC PROPULSION: Propulsion by the reactive thrust of a high-speed beam of similarly charged ions ejected by an ion engine.  

KILOTON: The explosive force of 1,000 tons of TNT; a unit for measuring the power of thermonuclear weapons. 

MOHS SCALE: Hardness is one of the chief ways used to recognize a mineral. It is a scale used to measure the relative hardness of a mineral by its resistance to scratching. In 1822, Friedrich Mohs [German-Austrian: 1773-1839] created a hardness scale based on assigning numbers to common minerals. The concept is that a harder mineral (one with a higher number) can scratch a softer one.

Other materials may be correlated to this scale. For example, steel used in a pocketknife is about 5.5 and glass is about 6, so glass can scratch steel, but a common pocketknife will NOT scratch glass.  

From softest to hardest, the 10 minerals of the Mohs scale are:

talc = measuring 1 on the hardness scale  
gypsum = 2    
calcite = 3  
fluorite = 4 
apatite = 5 
orthoclase feldspar = 6 
quartz = 7 
topaz =  8  
corundum = 9 (including ruby and sapphire)
diamond = 10 / A mineral form of carbon that is extremely hard and transparent. It usually occurs as crystals shaped as octahedrons. Diamonds come from unusual structures similar to volcanoes called pipes; the diamonds are embedded in a mineral called kimberlite. Diamonds form at great depths under high pressure and temperature, then are carried to
the surface in a kimberlite pipe. Because diamonds are hard and resist wear, they also survive passage from original locations into gravel deposits in rivers and on beaches.    

Reference:  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohs_hardness_scale

METALS/MINERALS ADDENDUM:  

The Mohs scale is a RELATIVE hardness scale (minerals relative to each other.)
There are several more hardness scales. One scale is known as the ABSOLUTE HARDNESS scale:

Talc = 1
Gypsum = 2
Calcite = 9  
Fluorite = 21
Apatite = 48 
Orthoclase = 72 
Quartz = 100
Topaz = 200  
Corundum = 400 
Diamond = 1500  

For example, this scale indicates that corundum is twice as hard as topaz, and diamond is almost four times as hard as corundum.  

Reference:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corundum

It is unclear whether Dr Craig McPherson was giving hardness numbers on the Absolute scale, such as 94.5, while previously referring to the Mohs scale. Metals (such as a typical knife blade) can be above 50 on the Absolute hardness scale, and hardened steel can be 100 or more.  
------------------------------------------
Sources: THE AMERICAN HERITAGE SCIENCE DICTIONARY, ISBN# 0618455043, $19.95, 695 pp. 

DISCOVER THE SCIENCE ALMANAC: THE DEFINITIVE SCIENCE RESOURCE, ISBN# 0786887591, $13.99, 790 pp. 
------------------------------------------
LATE-BREAKING RELATED DEVELOPMENT TO "Project SERPO" POSTING #24: ENORMOUS NEW HANGAR UNDER CONSTRUCTION AT AREA 51 ... IS ET MOVING IN PERMANENTLY COME NOVEMBER 2009?!   

FLASH NOTICE: Here is an item of interest for the public, since our hard-earned tax dollars are involved, and hopefully, at work at the base for our "Visitor" friends! The estimated size is 200 ft x 500 ft and 100 feet tall.

http://www.dreamlandresort.com/forum/messages/22327.html

http://www.dreamlandresort.com/area51/new_structure_2006.html

http://www.dreamlandresort.com/area51/new_structure_2006.html

http://www.dreamlandresort.com/

After the Air Force took over in the late 1980s, the name Area 51 was officially changed to: AIR FORCE FLIGHT TEST CENTER, DETACHMENT 3 or AFFTC DET 3. This is still the official designation of the Groom Lake base.

© 2007 Dreamland Resort.com / PHOTO: June 10, 2007 from Tikaboo Peak.

 

RELEASE 25 - 20 June 2007: Examination of the Eben Transport Craft!

Attention: SCIENTISTS and PHYSICISTS: THIS IS THE "Project SERPO" POSTING YOU'VE ALL BEEN BREATHLESSLY WAITING FOR! / A BOMBSHELL WORLDWIDE EXCLUSIVE: A HIGHLY DETAILED DESCRIPTION and SCIENTIFIC EXPLANATION OF THE INTERIOR OF THE EBEN ALIEN CRAFT FROM THE ROSWELL CRASH OF JULY 1947! / COMPILED AND WRITTEN BY THE "WHIZ KIDS" OF THE ALPHA TEAM AT THE LOS ALAMOS NATIONAL LABORATORY, THIS WILL GIVE YOU THE SCIENTIFIC NOMENCLATURE YOU'VE ALL BEEN WAITING A LIFETIME FOR! / DO ALL OF YOU HAVE YOUR "EYES ONLY" MAJIC CLEARANCE?! / IF NOT, HIT THAT "DELETE" KEY BEFORE PROCEEDING!

- BEGIN - 
------------------------------------------ 
EXAMINATION OF THE EBEN TRANSPORT CRAFT 

ALPHA TEAM RESEARCH: 

1) While electric charges cannot be conducted from the charge-accumulating fluid (Sims-Kyle) directly through the Toroid walls
and edges, there will be a capacitive effect which will accumulate charges of an opposite polarity, on the outside surfaces which will correspond to the inner ones in intensity and location. 

This "diffuse layer," as it's called by the LANL Bravo Team, of electric charges, occurs most effectively when the liquid (e-plasma), is moving, and the faster the e-plasma moves, the more pronounced will be the separation effect of its electric ions from the ions in the differently moving diffused layer outside. 

2) In this respect, the charges that accumulate outside in the space around the lower inner edge of the Toroid in its diffuse layer that encircles the base disc assembly (Tarabin) would be negative.  And the charges accumulating around the outside of the whole of the outer circumference of the Toroid would be positive. The result being much the same as dipolar electrodes -- building up between them electrostatic field lines and a potential magnetic field around those lines. 

3) Inside the craft, over the top horizontal place of the Toroid, which also forms the lower face of the radial planar guide (Merdan), the induced electrical charges react with the Toroid's magnetic field so as to form a horizontally rotating field of polarized (positive) ions.  

This revolving positive field reacts with the normal air outside of the craft to initiate an inflowing of polarized and neutrally-charged air which, as soon as it passes through the craft's circumferential duct and over the Toroid's electrically-charged outer edge, becomes positively ionized from the effect of sharp-edge ionization.  

When the inflowing air passes through the duct, its specially designed curved surface acts as a constrictor to speed up the air flow thereby creating a low-pressure area inside the duct. A computer-like system controls air flow pressure and the diffusing of the Toroid's actuator trim system.   

4) The increase in the circumferential duct's peripheral potential correspondingly increases the oppositely-charged potential of the fluid on the outside of the Toroid.  

5) When the magnetic fields begin to resonate, the flux lines will create electrical eddy currents over the under-face of the floor
surface, so that a skin of charged particles will circulate around the surface. The base can be capacitively coupled to the upper outside dome-shell of the craft, so as to enable the metallic dome to acquire an outside positive charge. The dome itself can be made to store tremendous amounts of electrical energy, over its whole surface area, just like a standard capacitor.  

6) The central rotating assembly is made up of four (4) bi-polar sphere-sets held equally spaced on a metallic plate. The plate is formed in such a way as to fit inside the perimeter of the inner edge of the Toroid, so as to be able to rotate freely with the sphere-set, but to also form an electrostatic coupling with the charges on the lower edge of the Toroid. This base plate also has a small diameter emission hole at its center. Pico-initiated jets push the air flow through this hole. 

7) The base plates, as well as holding the four (4) bi-poles, also have to impede and constrict the lower magnetic field of the Toroid, so as to direct the flux lines (Reno-Saber) through, or mainly through, its central hole. This then would not be made of the same construction as the Toroid Shell and would be made of a non-magnetic metal (similar to the magnesium/bismuth/zinc-like material found in Roswell (Number 1) on the lower plates. The base plate material is similar to the Roswell Number 1 material, but differs in composition since it contains an aluminum-like substance as the bonding agent.  

The base plate must contain some bismuth-like material since bismuth does have a sort of quality needed as it does exhibit what is called "leg current" when pulsed currents are applied to it at a very low frequency (2 MHz - 8 MHz), and in a strong magnetic field indicating that it has capacitance. Bismuth also has a high atomic mass and, of course, a Hall-affects [effects?] resistance or diamagnetism.

[NOTE: See "MODERATOR's NOTES" at end.] 

Either way, non-magnetic material, while not able to prevent all magnetic flux lines from penetrating through it, will convert some of the flux to a rotating electric field (eddy currents) over its surfaces, which will be supplemental to the actions of other charged particles spinning around the large, lower spheres by other interactions, and these rotations will coalesce into a flux-constricting force. The base plate metal could also be laminated on its outside with some sort of insulating material that has not yet been found.

8) During recent tests, it was determined that Eben 1 sent out an electronic signature of super-high radio frequency electromagnetic pulses. The pulses are in the three (3) GHz region of the electromagnetic spectrum at a wavelength of one (1) centimeter. Because the waves are so short, and their frequency is so high, the normal sort of capacitance-inductance oscillator with its conductor/antenna emission systems can't cope, and so a different sort of electronics technology is needed to radiate these waves out of the craft into the air or space around it.  

There are various methods of doing this with short "millimeter" waves, one of which is called the transmission line, yet another is with parabolic antennas, and still another is the waveguide. Of these three (3), the best-suited systems for propagated electric field propulsion is the waveguide, which basically is a rectangular metal tube whereby at one end, the microwave power is pumped in and, at the other end, the delivery of these power waves occurs with almost undiminished intensity.  

The science of waveguides is quite fascinating and is nothing like cable or conductor-type electronics; the size and the very shape of a waveguide computes in an entirely different fashion toward the end result. Microwaves though, have a very useful range of frequencies; at one particular frequency (3 GHz for atmospheric air), they can create the spin-resonance in the electrons of atoms of the gases in the surrounding air.

Electron spin resonance -- ESR -- raises the normal mode "lower" energy state, the visual effect of which is an emission of light photons of various colors (the subject of which is already covered in LANL-Z Alpha Report).  

- END - 

More to come....

- ANONYMOUS   
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MODERATOR's NOTES: 

Name: Bismuth
Symbol: Bi 
Atomic No.: 83 
Atomic Weight: 208.98038 
Density: 9.79 (g/cc or g/L) 
Specific Gravity: 9.747 
Valence: 3, 5 
Melting Point: 271.40° Celsius / 520° Fahrenheit   
Boiling Point: 1,564° Celsius / 2,847° Fahrenheit    

BISMUTH:  A hard, brittle, metallic chemical element discovered in 1753 and derives its name from the German "weisse masse," or "white mass." It is grayish-white with a tinge of red, or pinkish-white that is used chiefly in making alloys of a low melting point and in medicine, as well as for fire-safety devices. It is a crystalline metallic element that occurs in nature as a free metal and in various ores.

Bismuth is the most strongly diamagnetic element and has the highest atomic number of all the stable elements. It is the element most repelled by a magnetic field, and its electrical resistance increases the most in a magnetic field. Like water, it expands upon
solidification. 

FACTOID: It is the "bis" in Pepto BISmol. 
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SUPPLEMENTARY INFORMATION FOR THE ROSWELL, NM, 1947 UFO CRASH


ROSWELL UFO '47 CRASH: 

http://www.ufocasebook.com/rameymemo.html

The ROSWELL FILES:  

http://www.roswellfiles.com/

The ROSWELL UFO MUSEUM:  

http://www.roswellufomuseum.com/

The ROSWELL INVESTIGATOR, CAREY & SCHMITT's:    

http://www.roswellinvestigator.com/
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Sources: THE AMERICAN HERITAGE SCIENCE DICTIONARY, ISBN# 0618455043, $19.95, 695 pp. 

DISCOVER THE SCIENCE ALMANAC: THE DEFINITIVE SCIENCE RESOURCE, ISBN# 0786887591, $13.99, 790 pp.

RELEASE 26 -  A VIOLENT '85 Contact With ETs in Russia!

RELEASE 26a - Russian Version of Violent ET Encounter from KGB!

THIS RELEASE HAS BEEN APPROVED BY and AT THE HIGHEST LEVELS OF THE U.S. GOVERNMENT as part of a continuing public acclimation program.

WHAT: Transcripts of highly classified audio cassette recordings made of 40th U.S. president RONALD REAGAN's briefings with his top level and key advisers on the EXTRATERRESTRIAL subject matter. There are six (6) briefings in the first set; "Project SERPO" POSTING #27a is only the first one (1) of the six (6) transcribed sets.

The REAGAN ET TRANSCRIPTS are located in POSTING #27a, "3 of 7" and "4 of 7." This does NOT include the "BONUS! SERPO POSTING #27" stream.

WHEN: President REAGAN was briefed on many aspects of the EXTRATERRESTRIAL subject matter from March 6-8, 1981 and then again on October 9-12 of the same year.

WHERE: President REAGAN was briefed on both occasions at the presidential retreat at Camp David, MD.

HOW: At President REAGAN's request, these briefings were both tape recorded AND transcribed via the coordination and administration by a "Top Secret Codeword-cleared" CIA administrative assistant named XXXXX XXXXX. The recordings comprise many meetings/briefings in a combination of 60 min and 90 min cassettes for a total of 54 tapes.

Of the 54 tapes, 40 have been completed by DOD-DIA personnel; you are reading the transcripts of one of six (1 of 6) briefings President REAGAN made between Friday-Sunday, March 6-8, 1981.

DOD/DIA personnel were able to gain access to and possession and ownership of these tapes because SOME of the recordings deal with an ALIEN THREAT from a specific HAV [Hostile Alien Race] and therefore fall under the purview, control and jurisdictional authority of the Dept of Defense.

WHY: The reasons to disclose this information now is two-fold:

1) As in the case of the "Project SERPO" disclosures, the 25-year time limit on classified USG projects had expired and could -- after much legal vetting and wrangling between DOD lawyers and those USG employees who WANT it released -- be CONSIDERED for public release and into the public domain.

The "Project SERPO" final report was issued in 1980 + 25 years = 2005 ... Wednesday, Nov 2, 2005 was the first "Project SERPO" release.

The RONALD REAGAN Presidential ET Briefings: 1981 + 25 years = 2006 ... legal issues to be worked out and resolved brings us to late 2007.

2) MANY other countries are disclosing their encounters with extraterrestrials -- especially Canada, the UK (MoD files) and Latin America -- so some amount of pressure has been placed and brought to bear on the normally tight-lipped USG "black world" to be more open about what they/we have in our "TS/Codeword" files.

SUGGESTION: I'm acutely aware that MANY of you will gloss over POSTING #27 which is a lengthy biographical piece I personally researched, compiled and wrote on Ronald Reagan woven together from 10 (ten) different sources in my immense personal library (see bottom of POSTING #27 for bibliography) and which took me
80 hours to edit into the final product you'll read.

I know that you'll all want to "get to the good stuff" first, BUT I would implore you to GO BACK and read the Reagan linear narrative I edited as it provides some GREAT insight into the man, will lead one to believe that given his engaging, natural wit and charm that he used to joke with a great deal of the time that in fact he WOULD HAVE said -- and joked -- the way he did during the highly classified briefings he received on the EXTRATERRESTRIAL SUBJECT MATTER in 1981.

You'll also learn about some little, virtually UNknown facts surrounding the attempted 1981 assassination on his life -- as well as others -- under the section heading, "CONSPIRACY THEORY 2 of 2: POTSHOTS FROM THE BUSHY KNOLL?!"

MODERATOR's IMPORTANT CLOSING NOTE: From the very first SERPO posting, I've been given a very wide, great and sole discretionary latitude in HOW I release the material to the public in terms of presentation, formatting, style and CONTENT.

For THIS release, I was surprisingly provided the names of ALL eight (8) individuals who participated in the classified briefing plus even the name of the CIA briefing transcriber. Five (5) of the presidential briefing participants are still alive -- plus the CIA transcriber -- so I made the "executive"/editorial decision to MASK THOSE NAMES from public view and replace them with "ADVISER #1" - "ADVISER #4."

For the fifth individual, he is referred to only as "The CARETAKER." The CIA transcriber is referred to as just that. GREAT pains, lengths and efforts were undertaken by me to delete their names when they were mentioned by other speakers. If I glossed over and missed one, then so be it though I hope not.

Including President REAGAN, only three (3) individuals are named as they have all passed on to the afterlife.

ISSUE: Though I was NOT asked to do this, in my mind, an obvious problem would definitely arise: These still-living advisers would be hounded, pestered and questioned mercilessly and without end by both real UFO investigators and "armchair" researchers thereby bringing continued DISCLOSURE of these audio recordings to a complete HALT.

The pressure for me to CEASE and DESIST, as well as the special unit within the DOD/DIA who made this information available would be enormous. I am ONLY interested in getting I-N-F-O-R-M-A-T-I-O-N out to the UFO community and public at large, NOT in "outing" the individuals who participated in these PRIVATE briefings ... at least NOT while five of the eight (5 of 8) participants are still very much alive. If I receive directions to proceed otherwise, I certainly will, but until that time, it's MY CALL.

As ANONYMOUS remarked to me: "Victor, the really 'good stuff' is yet to come after the first release!"

Speaking for myself only, I too WANT to see that "really good stuff" and I'll do NOTHING to jeopardize at all.

This will be my FINAL word on THIS matter and I'll entertain NO suggestions, advice or ideas at all about it ... I'll NOT dignify ANY inquiries regarding this particular issue with even so much as a simple reply. I MEAN WHAT I SAY.

In addition to the many LEGAL issues which surrounded, hobbled and held up this release for months on end, two (2) military historians reviewed and signed off on this material as well as an astronomer from Cornell Univ.

It is my high HONOR, distinct PRIVILEGE and great PLEASURE to send this 8-part stream to (in order):

a) UFO Thread List, M-Z (hundreds);

b) UFO Thread List, A-L (hundreds);

c) 24 senior USG officials + 1 MI5 member (active), MI6 (retired), Soviet KGB (retired);

d) small list of personal friends, former students of mine, ex-girlfriends and cyberstalking victims (
12);

e) Bush Admin White House (2)

f) U.S. Secret Service Presidential Protective Service Detail (1);

g) CORNELL UNIV, Space Sciences Division, Astronomy Dept, NASA's Mars Rover Project, USG "black world" contract astronomer (1);

h) retired employee of the NSA who greatly assisted me in not only the proofreading and photo configuration and selection, but advised me and provided valuable input and insight on key aspects of this VERY SPECIAL release.

i) ANONYMOUS/DIA-6 (6) who will forward all eight (8) parts to key members of the USG intel commuinity, both here and abroad.

I hope you are all ENRICHED and EDUCATED beyond belief and your wildest dreams by what you are about to read!

FEEDBACK? E-mail me at my regular e-mail address, NOT this one .... I will NOT respond to ANY e-mails sent here and plan on closing DOWN this address soon. It was solely opened for this particular stream ... no more Wizard ... he's departed for Planet SERPO....

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"Government is NOT the solution to our problem, government IS the problem." - Ronald Reagan 

"My life really began when I married my husband." - Nancy Reagan

"What I'd really like to do is go down in history as the president who made Americans believe in themselves again." - Ronald Reagan

RONALD WILSON REAGAN: 40th PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES  

Full name: Ronald Wilson Reagan
Born: Monday, February 6, 1911 in Tampico, IL 
Died: Saturday, June 5, 2004, Los Angeles, CA 
Burial site: Reagan Presidential Library Grounds, Simi Valley, CA
Parents: John Edward and Nelle Wilson Reagan 

Spouses: Jane Wyman (1-5-1917 - 9-10-2007; born in St Joseph, MO, died in Rancho Mirage, CA; married: 1940, divorced: 1948);
Anne Frances Robbins [Nancy Davis-Reagan: July 6, 1921 - ; married: 1952] born in New York City to theatrical actress Edith Luckett and New Jersey auto dealer Kenneth Robbins and then her mother married neurosurgeon Loyal Davis.

Children: Maureen Elizabeth (1941-2001); Christina (1947-1947); Michael Edward (adopted; 1945-); Patricia Ann (1952-); Ronald Prescott (1958-)

Religion: Disciples of Christ 
Education: Eureka College (B.A., 1932) 
Occupations: Rancher; U.S. Army captain; radio sports commentator; actor
Government positions: California governor Political party: Republican

Dates as president: Tuesday, January 20, 1981 - Sunday, January 20, 1985 (first term);
Sunday, January 20, 1985 - Friday, January 20, 1989 (second term)  
Age upon taking office: 69 

ELECTION RESULTS: 
1980 - Presidential / Vice-Presidential Candidates:
Ronald Reagan / George H W Bush (Republican)
Popular Votes: 43,904,153 
Electoral Votes: 483 
Jimmy Carter / Walter Mondale (Democratic)
Popular Votes: 35,483,883 
Electoral Votes: 49
John Anderson / VP nominee was not chosen (National Unity)
Popular Votes: 5,720,060
Electoral Votes: 0 

1980 ELECTION NOTES: Incumbent president Carter shook off a challenge by Massachusetts senator Edward Kennedy to win the Democratic nomination;
Republican Reagan's main competition was from former CIA director and ambassador to China, George Bush (whom Reagan chose as his running mate) and Illinois congressman John Anderson (who ran in the general election as an independent). 

1984 - Presidential / Vice-Presidential Candidates:
Ronald Reagan / George Bush (Republican)
Popular Votes: 54,455,075 
Electoral Votes: 525 
Walter Mondale / Geraldine Ferraro (Democratic)
Popular Votes: 37,577,185 
Electoral Votes: 13 

1984 ELECTION NOTES: This election was most notable for former vice president Mondale's selection of New York representative Ferraro as his running mate, the FIRST FEMALE from a major party to run on a national ticket.

The REAGAN ADMINISTRATION:  
Administration Dates: January 20, 1981 - January 20, 1985 
January 20, 1985 - January 20, 1989 
Vice President: George Bush (1981-1989) 

CABINET: 
Secretary of State: Alexander M Haig, Jr (1981-1982); George P Shultz (1982-1989)

Secretary of the Treasury: Donald T Regan (1981-1985); James A Baker III (1985-1988); Nicholas F Brady (1988-1989) 

Attorney General: William F Smith (1981-1985); Edwin Meese III (1985-1988); Richard L Thornburgh (1988-1989) 

Secretary of the Interior: James G Watt (1981-1983); William P Clark (1983-1985); Donald P Hodel (1985-1989)

Secretary of Agriculture: John R Block (1981-1986); Richard E Lyng (1986-1989)

Secretary of Labor: Raymond J Donovan (1981-1985); Willam E Brock III (1985-1987); Ann Dore McLaughlin (1987-1989) 

Secretary of Commerce: Malcolm Baldrige (1981-1987); C Willam Verity (1987-1989) 

Secretary of Defense: Caspar W Weinberger (1981-1987); Frank G Carlucci (1987-1989) 

Secretary of Housing and Urban Development: Samuel R Pierce, Jr (1981-1989) 

Secretary of Transportation: Andrew L Lewis, Jr: (1981-1983); Elizabeth H Dole (1983-1987); James H Burnley IV (1987-1989) 

Secretary of Energy: James B Edwards (1981-1982); Donald P Hodel (1982-1985); John S Herrington (1985-1989) 

Secretary of Health and Human Services: Richard S Schweiker (1981-1983); Margaret M Heckler (1983-1985); Otis R Bowen (1985-1989) 

Secretary of Education: Terrel H Bell (1981-1985); William J Bennett (1985-1988); Lauro F Cavazo (1988-1989)
 

LIST OF SCIENCE ADVISERS/OMISSION OF VANNEVAR BUSH

Wikipedia lists Vannevar Bush (of MJ-12 fame) as a Science Adviser to Franklin D. Roosevelt between 1939-1951.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_Science_and_Technology_Policy#Past_Science_Advisors

Also, a Web page at:

http://www.majesticdocuments.com/

states that Vannevar Bush was President Truman's highly respected scientific adviser through World War II and the 1940s. See:

http://www.majesticdocuments.com/personnel/bush.php

BUT, for some reason, the list of Science Advisers at:

http://www.ostp.gov/html/_pastadvisors.html

starts with Oliver E. Buckley (1951-1952) under the Truman Administration and DOESN'T MENTION Vannevar Bush at all.  Science Advisors to President RONALD REAGAN and to the President of the United States: Office of Science and Technology Policy / Executive Office of the President

Source:

http://www.ostp.gov/html/_pastadvisors.html

REAGAN ADMINISTRATION SCIENCE ADVISERS:

Benjamin Huberman (Acting Director, OSTP) Feb. 1981 - Aug. 1981

Dr. George A. Keyworth, II (Director, OSTP) Aug. 1981 - Dec. 1985

Dr. John P. McTague (Acting Director, OSTP) Jan. 1986 - May 23, 1986

Dr. Richard G. Johnson (Acting Director, OSTP) May 24, 1986 - Oct. 1, 1986

Dr. William R. Graham, Jr. (Director, OSTP) Oct. 2, 1986 - June 1989

Dr. Thomas P. Rona (Acting Director, OSTP) June 1989 - Aug. 1989
 
 

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Soviet Union General Secretary MIKHAIL GORBACHEV at a speech on February 16, 1987 in the Grand Kremlin Palace in Moscow: "At our meeting in Geneva, the U.S president said that if the earth faced an invasion by extraterrestrials, the United States and the Soviet Union would join forces to repel such an invasion. I shall not dispute the hypothesis, though I think it's early yet to worry about such an intrusion."

Source: BEYOND TOP SECRET: THE WORLDWIDE UFO SECURITY THREAT - By Timothy Good, ISBN# 0283062452, 606 pp., p. 539

http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc1523.htm

The attached photos are courtesy of the Ronald Reagan Library.

PRESIDENTIAL FACTOIDS:

° Oldest president: Ronald Reagan, who was 77 when he left office

° Only divorced president: Ronald Reagan: divorced from actress Jane Wyman in 1948, married Nancy Davis in 1952 

° Only left-handed presidents in order: James Garfield, Herbert Hoover, Harry Truman, Gerald Ford, Ronald Reagan, George H W Bush and Bill Clinton 

° Ronald Reagan was a member of Tau K fraternity

° The SHORTEST inaugural speech was given by George Washington at his second inauguration on March 4, 1793 which contained 136 words and lasted only 90 seconds! The LONGEST inaugural speech was given by William Henry Harrison who spoke for nearly two (2) hours on March 4,
1781. 

° The greatest LANDSLIDE majority ever won in the popular vote was by Richard Nixon in 1972. He defeated George McGovern by a record 17,994,460 votes (47,165,911 to 29,170,33) to win re-election. 

° In the nine (9) presidential elections since 1972, these states have a 100% record for voting for the WINNING CANDIDATE: Arkansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Missouri, Ohio and Tennessee. 

 

HISTORICAL FACTOID QUESTIONS:

QUESTION: Who is the ONLY full-term president who did NOT get to nominate a Supreme Court justice?

ANSWER: Jimmy Carter never nominated a Supreme Court justice. Three (3) other presidents -- William Henry Harrison, Zachary Taylor and Andrew Johnson -- also never had the opportunity to select a nominee. 

QUESTION: What is the most COMMON home state for first ladies with nine (9) first ladies having been born there?

ANSWER: The State of New York has had more First Ladies born here. 

QUESTION: Who was the FIRST U.S. president to make audio recordings in the Oval Office?

ANSWER: It was FDR, with earliest recording made probably about August 1940. It also was not an "audiotape" [for which the technology didn't exist at that time], as recordings were made on office dictation equipment on sound recording disks. For a secondary source on this go to:

http://www.bookcost.com/review/1568362854/

For further information and details you should contact an audio archivist at the FDR Presidential Library, go to:

http://www.fdrlibrary.marist.edu/staff.html

or contact: Mark.Renovitch@NARA.gov
1-845 486-7742

 

TIMELINE OF EVENTS FOR THE REAGAN ADMINISTRATION: 

1911: Born in Tampico, Illinois 
1938: Appears in first motion picture 
1947-52, 1959: Serves as president of the Screen Actors Guild 
1954: Becomes television spokesman for the General Electric Company and makes speeches around the country promoting the American way
1967-1975: Serves as California governor  1976: Falls 80 ballots shy of becoming the Republican nominee for president 
1981-1989: Serves as 40th U.S. president
1981: Wounded in assassination attempt 
1985: The first of several summits with Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev takes place 
1986: Iran-Contra scandal breaks 
1994: Announces he has Alzheimer's disease in a hand-written letter addressed to the nation 
2004: Dies on June 5 in California from pneumonia, related complications from his disease and is buried in Simi Valley, CA

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NOT QUITE ALONE - 1982 On every ride, Secret Service agents followed the President and the First Lady, who went by the code names "Rawhide" and "Rainbow."

MAJOR EVENTS THAT OCCURRED DURING REAGAN's TWO (2) PRESIDENTIAL BRIEFINGS ON THE EXTRATERRESTRIAL PRESENCE ON EARTH during March and October, 1981: 

President Reagan was shot and seriously wounded on Monday, March 30, 1981 in Washington, DC. Also seriously wounded were Secret Service Agent Timothy McCarthy [hit in the stomach], DC police officer Thomas Delahanty (struck in the neck] and Press Sec'y James Brady [shot in the left temple]. John W Hinckley, Jr was arrested, found NOT GUILTY by reason of insanity on May 4, 1982, and committed to St Elizabeth's Psychiatric Hospital in Washington, DC. 

The U.S. Senate confirmed on Monday,  September 21, 1981, the appointment of Sandra Day O'Connor as the FIRST female U.S. Supreme Court justice.

CONSPIRACY THEORY 1 of 2: That President Reagan was shot for his insistence that more information be made available to him on the alien presence than what is normally given each new incoming, sitting president [see end for conspiracy theories]. 

 

REVITALIZATION OF CAPITALISM, DEMAND FOR DEMOCRACY: 1980-1989 

SUMMARY: In the U.S., "The Reagan Years" (1981-88) brought the longest economic boom yet in U.S. history via budget and tax cuts, deregulation,"junk bond" financing, leveraged buyouts and mergers and takeovers.
However, there was a stock market crash (Oct. 1987), and federal budget deficits and the trade deficit increased.

Foreign policy showed a strong anti-communist stance, via increased defense spending, championing of the MX missile system and the "Star Wars" missile defense program.

Four (4) Reagan-Gorbachev summits (1985-88) climaxed in the INF Treaty (1987) as the Cold War began to wind down. The Iran-Contra affair (Oliver North's TV testimony, July 1987) was a major political scandal.
Homelessness and drug abuse (especially "crack" cocaine) were growing social problems. 

 

THE RISE OF THE CONSERVATIVE MOVEMENT: THE REAGAN "REVOLUTION" 

From the time American colonists first began to consider breaking away from England to form their own system of government, lively discussion has almost never stopped over the extent of the powers that government should have.

When the ratification of the Constitution was being debated in the late 1780s, some notable patriots argued that the federal government it described would have too much authority over individual states, and"states' rights" versus federal power has been a heated issue ever
since. 

In the 20th century, federal powers expanded in such areas as government regulation of business and banking and in the enactment of social welfare programs. Franklin D Roosevelt's New Deal in the 1930s, Harry S Truman's Fair Deal during the 1940s, and the Great Society of Lyndon B
Johnson during the 1960s were all designed to confront social and economic problems at the federal level.

In 1980, Ronald Reagan campaigned on the theme "Government is not the solution to our problem, government is the problem." By cutting taxes, ending several social welfare programs, and reducing government regulations on business, he reversed the political trends of the 20th century, and his policies helped revive a sluggish American economy. 

Reagan's policies and his speech-making skills inspired tremendous enthusiasm from his supporters, and resulted in two landslide election victories. Meanwhile, his opponents called attention to enormous federal budget deficits that grew out of control during his administration.
Nevertheless, the nation's oldest president emerged vigorous and still popular after two terms.

"I am the same man I was when I came to Washington," he said when he left the White House. "I believe the same things I believed when I came to Washington." 

When Ronald Reagan was born, his father John took one look at the 10-lb baby boy and called him a "fat little Dutchman" ... the nickname "Dutch" stuck with him for his entire life.  A political liberal in his youth, Ronald Wilson Reagan helped create and spark a conservative coalition in middle age and moved American politics rightward after winning the presidency at age 69. Reagan grew up in a family that was by the standards of the day -- socially as well as politically -- liberal.

His Roman Catholic father Jack and his evangelical Protestant mother Nelle condemned racism and young Ron received help from a Jewish mentor.
Jack's job with the Works Progress Administration helped the family survive the Depression of the 1930s, but Jack's alcoholism left a mark on his son's personality. Outwardly amiable and optimistic, Reagan typically concealed his feelings, avoided confrontations, and cultivated many acquaintances, but few close friends.

After graduating from Eureka College in 1932, Reagan became a radio sportscaster in the Middle West and then began a film acting career in Hollywood. Generally avoiding the movie colony's often wild social life, he nevertheless became active in the Screen Actors Guild (SAG) and a master of Hollywood politics. In 1940, he helped to arrange production of his most famous film, "Knute Rockne: All American," in which he starred as Notre Dame football legend George "The Gipper" Gipp.

That same year he married actress Jane Wyman. Involved in national politics as well, he voted for Franklin Delano Roosevelt four (4) times and bled for liberal causes so easily, he would later joke that he was a "hemophiliac." Barred from WWII combat by weak vision, he acted in films and plays produced by the U.S. Army. A series of crises in the late 1940s permanently altered Reagan's life. He almost died of pneumonia, his marriage collapsed, and his movie career stalled.

The Reagans first met in 1949 when Nancy discovered that her name was on mailing lists of left-wing organizations. When she complained, she was referred to Reagan who, as president of the Screen Actor's Guild, was able to straighten it out. Apparently, she had been confused with a different Nancy Davis, and he invited her to dinner so that he could explain.

Their romance developed gradually. Reagan was still upset over his recent divorce from Jane Wyman, but he found Nancy a comforting shoulder to lean on. He was extremely talkative and she was a good listener. They became engaged in February 1952 and were married on March 4, 1952 with actor William Holden serving as best man. Later that year their first child, Patricia Ann "Patti" was born. A son, Ronald Prescott, was born in 1958. Reagan had also had three (3) children during his first marriage (one was adopted and one died in infancy).

Nancy and Ronald's film careers were both winding down during the 1950s. The Reagans bought a ranch, "El Rancho del Cielo," and began moving among a wealthy circle of friends in Southern California. They appeared together in a movie called "Hellcats of the Navy" in 1957. It was Nancy's LAST film work while her husband had all but abandoned movies for television.
 

REAGAN FILMOGRAPHY:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001654/

Reagan's LAST film, "The Killers," was released in 1964, the same year he made a televised campaign speech for Republican presidential candidate Barry Goldwater. Goldwater lost the election, but Reagan impressed California Republicans enough to become their candidate for governor in 1966. He won the election.

In the election of 1980, former California Governor Ronald Reagan defeated Jimmy Carter, a victory that signaled the emergence of a strong conservative political movement that would exert great influence in the coming decades. The new conservatism combined antagonism toward government deregulation and taxes, support for an aggressive foreign policy toward the Soviet Union, and promotion of so-called family values based on Christian morality.

Reagan pursued an economic policy -- "Reaganomics" -- of tax cuts and deregulation. When the disastrous economy of the late 1970s entered a period of record expansion after 1982, Reagan's popularity soared. His tough rhetorical stance against the Soviet Union and massive defense build-up likewise earned him support not only from conservatives, but many disaffected middle-class voters who traditionally had voted Democratic. In 1984, Reagan won re-election in a landslide.

Though many found Reagan charming, his presidency was controversial. Annual budget deficits reached record levels in the 1980s pushing the national debt to nearly $3 TRILLION by 1988.

Conservative zeal for prosecuting the Cold War also led to the administration's greatest crisis, the Iran-Contra scandal, an illegal scheme that involved arms sales to Iran to secretly fund anti-communist rebels in Nicaragua. A number of Reagan administration officials were convicted for their role in the scheme, but Reagan avoided prosecution. He also later admitted that his administration had traded arms for hostages with Iran.

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FOREIGN AFFAIRS IN THE REAGAN YEARS 

The USSR and EASTERN EUROPE: A troublesome 1980-85 for the USSR was followed by (five) 5 years of astonishing change: the surrender of the Communist monopoly, the remaking of the Soviet state, and the beginning of the disintegration of the Soviet empire.

SOVIET EMPIRE BREAKUP: The world community witnessed the extraordinary disintegration of the Soviet Union into 15 independent states. During the Reagan Era, the 1980s had already seen internal reforms and a decline of Communist power both within the Soviet Union and in Eastern Europe. Russia remained the predominant country after the breakup. In the fall of 1989, the failure of Marxist economies in Eastern Europe was the catalyst in a historic step: The Berlin Wall was opened in Nov 1989.

Remarks on East-West Relations at the Brandenburg Gate in West Berlin

"There is one sign the Soviets can make that would be unmistakable, that would advance dramatically the cause of freedom and peace. General Secretary Gorbachev, if you seek peace, if you seek prosperity for the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe, if you seek liberalization: Come here to this gate! Mr. Gorbachev, open this gate! Mr. Gorbachev, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL!" - President Ronald Reagan, Friday, June 12, 1987

The ABOVE excerpt is from:
http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/speeches/1987/061287d.htm

MIDDLE EAST: The Middle East remained militarily UNstable with sharp divisions along economic, political, racial and religious lines. In Iran, the Islamic revolution of 1979 created a strong anti-U.S. stance (hostage crisis, Nov 1979 - Jan 1981). In Sept 1980, Iraq repudiated its border agreement with Iran and began major hostilities that led to an 8-year war in which millions were killed.

LIBYA: The U.S. accused Libyan leader Muammar al-Qaddafi of aiding terrorists in Dec 1985 in Rome and in Vienna of airport attacks, and Reagan retaliated by bombing Libya in April 1986.

ISRAEL affirmed all Jerusalem as its capital in July 1980, destroyed an Iraqi atomic reactor in 1981, and invaded Lebanon in 1981, forcing the PLO to agree to withdraw. A Palestinian uprising, including women and children hurling rocks and bottles at troops began in December 1987 in Israeli-occupied Gaza and spread to the West Bank. Troops responded with force, killing 300 by the end of 1988 with 6,000 more in detention camps.

LATIN AMERICA / CENTRAL AMERICA:

In NICARAGUA, the U.S. CIA admitted in 1984 to having directed the mining of Nicaraguan ports, and the U.S. sent humanitarian (1985) and military aid in 1986. Profits from secret arms sales to Iran were found to have been diverted to the contras in 1987.

In EL SALVADOR, a military coup in October of 1979 failed to halt extreme right-wing violence and left-wing terrorism. From Jan - June of 1980, some 4,000 civilians were killed in the civil unrest. In 1984, newly elected Pres Jose Napoleon Duarte worked to stem human rights abuses, but violence continued.

RECAP: After 25 years of Cold War detente in practice if not in name, Reagan resumed vigorous denunciation of the Soviet Union as an evil, totalitarian empire. He also sponsored the largest military buildup in U.S. history. In March 1983, confronted with a strong antinuclear protest movement, he proposed a high-tech missile defense system, known as the Strategic Defense Initiative.

Elsewhere, Reagan's diplomacy mixed prudence with exaggerated fears of Third World radicalism. He retained diplomatic relations with communist China and, after a disastrous intervention in the Lebanese civil war which cost more than 300 American lives in guerilla bombings, he prudently withdrew.

On the other hand, he ordered the bombing of Libya and the invasion of Grenada on the dubious grounds that their governments profoundly threatened U.S. interests, and he worked tirelessly to overthrow the Marxist Sandinista regime in Nicaragua.

The degree to which Reagan's military buildup contributed to the collapse of communism remains conjectural, but Reagan UNquestionably responded flexibly as the Soviet Union moved toward democracy under Mikhail Gorbachev. First lady Nancy Reagan, an influential behind-the-scenes figure in the Reagan White House, encouraged this flexibility.

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APPROACHING THE SUNSET YEARS

After her husband won the presidential election in 1980, Nancy arranged glittering social occasions where men wore tuxedos and women donned glamorous floor-length gowns. Her expensive tastes in parties, White House dinnerware, designer gowns, jewelry and furnishings met with some criticism by people who pointed out that while President Reagan was trimming the federal budget, White House social spending was growing almost out of control. Nancy Reagan handled the criticism by pointing out that her gowns were only on loan from designers and were donated to museums after she wore them.

Those initial concerns soon passed, though. Her involvement with the Foster Grandparents Program and her fight against drug abuse revealed a more serious and caring first lady. She became a spokesperson for the "Just Say NO!" campaign that advised young people to resist trying drugs, and she supported private efforts, rather than government programs, to help combat drug abuse.

Mrs Reagan expanded her drug awareness campaign to an international level by inviting first ladies from around the world to talks on drug abuse, and during the fortieth anniversary of the United Nations in 1985, she was host of a second international drug conference. Nancy Reagan also helped her husband recover from some serious medical problems: He was wounded in an assassination attempt in 1981, he had colon surgery four (4) years later, and prostate surgery in 1987, the same year Nancy herself had surgery to treat breast cancer.

She became increasingly involved in helping direct her husband's administration during his second term. Particularly after his hospitalization, she preferred a more relaxed schedule for him so that he could concentrate on the most significant issues needing his attention. As the Iran-Contra scandal entangled the Reagan administration, she became angry with staff members she felt hadn't helped prepare him for answering tough questions from the press.

Nancy Reagan enjoyed being first lady, but she WELCOMED RETIREMENT after the end of her husband's second term in 1989. She almost immediately established the Nancy Reagan Foundation to continue her campaign to educate people about the dangers of substance abuse, and in 1994, the Foundation joined forces with the BEST Foundation for a Drug-Free Tomorrow. Together they developed the Nancy Reagan Afterschool Program to promote drug prevention for young people.

A devoted couple, the Reagans helped each other through the best and worst of times. Nancy helped arouse her husband's fighting spirit when he was recovering from a gunshot wound in 1981 following a failed assassination attempt, and she was again at his side as he recovered from surgeries in July 1985 and January 1987.

The Reagans returned to their California ranch where the former president remained active before beginning to deal with the effects of Alzheimer's disease. The couple remained devoted to each other as he began suffering more profound effects of the disease, and they founded the Ronald and Nancy Reagan Research Institute as part of the National Alzheimer's Association to help focus attention on the disease and provide information about it.

After the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley, CA, opened in 1991, Nancy served on the board for the Ronald Reagan Presidential Foundation, which promotes his "Four Pillars of Freedom" -- preserving individual liberty, promoting economic opportunity, advancing democracy around the world, and building PRIDE IN AMERICA's NATIONAL HERITAGE.

At the end of his presidency, the two former actors went home to their California ranch and, after finally riding off together into the sunset, the Reagans enjoyed a peaceful retirement....

THE REAGAN LEGACY 

In his speech, Reagan observed that "Progress may be slow -- measured in inches and feet, not miles -- but we will progress." Small progress in overcoming the economic crisis he identified in the address was made during the first two years of his presidency. Beginning in 1983, the American economy improved and expanded consistently over the next six (6) years -- through the end of Reagan's term.

Tax reduction acts passed in 1981 and 1986 helped relieve the tax burden that Reagan blamed for having stifled growth. Government programs, which Reagan identified as another form of burden, were cut back during his administration with mixed results.

Businesses were able to act with less restraint, but some took advantage of reduced government supervision. The government deficit that Reagan targeted for reduction in his inaugural address actually grew during his presidency, partly from increased military spending and a trade imbalance where imports far outbalanced exports and partly from resistance by Congress to authorize further cuts in government programs.

The economy improved, and some government regulations were enacted later to help maintain order and stability in business. One of the results of the Reagan presidency has been the more careful consideration and debate -- as well as resistance -- that greets each potential new regulation.

To his supporters, that reality is an example of what they call "The Reagan Revolution" -- an administration that turned away from a 50-year trend of large government social programs and brought renewed emphasis to the question of just how powerful Americans want their government to be.

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PERFECT PAIR - 1964: Daughter Patti Davis told The American
Experience: Reagan [use italics]: "My parents ... really sort of
complete each other. They're kind of two halves of a circle."
 

THE ALIEN THREAT AS SEEN FROM RONALD REAGAN's EYES!

Ronald Reagan is the only president, besides Jimmy Carter, to admit publicly that he'd seen a flying saucer. Reagan was also the only president to hypothesize -- albeit metaphorically or hint -- about the possibilities of hostile extraterrestrials posing a threat to Earth.

In a speech before the United Nations General Assembly on Monday, September 21, 1987, Reagan used an example of an alien attack on humanity as a rationale for governments to put aside their differences and come together for the common good. He did so with the full knowledge that many of the assembled press would take his remarks derisively.

Nevertheless, Reagan also knew that most, if not all, of the assembled diplomats represented governments that had their own issues in dealing with the UFO "threat." Reagan had used the same analogy before during a speech at his summit meeting with Soviet president Mikhail Gorbachev in 1985.

Unlike his predecessors, some of whom might have been more inclined to disclose the existence of UFOs to the American people, Ronald Reagan proposed the development of a planetary defense system called the Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI), or as it was dubbed by the media, "Star Wars."

Though the program was touted as a "shield" against incoming Soviet ballistic missiles, many UFO researchers thought that it was public cover FOR ITS REAL MISSION: A DEFENSE SHIELD AGAINST HOSTILE UFOs. In fact, the Soviets were actually inclined to support the project, despite their public protestations, once Reagan offered to make it available to them.

RONALD REAGAN, AN ALIEN INVASION and "THE NEW WORLD ORDER!"

The proponents of the "New World Order" cosmic conspiracy believe that when President Ronald Reagan gave his famous "alien invasion" speech to the entire United Nations General Assembly in September of 1987, he had already secretly advised representatives of the 176 member nations that the leaders of their respective governments must meet the demands of the technologically superior extraterrestrials or be destroyed. In his speech to the General Assembly, Reagan said that an alien threat was already among us.

A number of conspiracy theorists stated that Reagan's speech hinted at a plan agreed to by world leaders that extraterrestrial invaders around the year 2000 would carry out a carefully staged "alien invasion" that would convince the masses of the world that a real-life alien attack from outer space was about to begin. People of all nations would believe their leaders, who would tell them that the aliens were a benevolent species and that unconditional surrender to them would be for everyone's own good.

Immediately following the surrender to the aliens, the united leaders will form a One World Government -- a New World Order -- thus fulfilling biblical prophecies about a return to the days of Babylon. The aliens will revel themselves as demonic entities that delight in doing Satan's work.

Under the One World Government, the following laws and rules will apply:

- There will be NO private or church schools;

- Christianity will NOT be permitted in ANY form;

- There will be only a one-unit monetary system; 

- Population will be limited by restrictions on the number of children per family;

- There will NO middle class, only rulers and servants;

- NONE of the former national boundaries of countries shall exist;

- Privately owned firearms or weapons of any kind will be prohibited;

- A legal system of world courts will oversee a single unified code of laws, enforced by a One World Government police force and a One World unified military; 

- Only ONE RELIGION will be allowed and that will be in the form of a One World Government Church, which will adhere to Satanism or Luciferianism;

- Permanent, NONelected hereditary oligarchists will select serfs from the population and form a feudal system, similar to the one that existed in the Middle Ages; 

- Diseases, wars and famines will be engineered until there are only one (1) billion people -- those who are deemed useful to the ruling classes -- living on the planet; 

- The social system will be on the basis of a welfare state -- those who are obedient and subservient to the One World Government will be rewarded with the means to live. Those who are rebellious will be starved to death or declared outlaws, thereby becoming targets for anyone who wishes to kill them.

CONSPIRACY THEORY 2 of 2: POTSHOTS FROM THE "BUSHY KNOLL?!"  

Talk about a small world! A little before 2:30 p.m. on the afternoon of Monday, March 30, 1981, John Hinckley, Jr -- with a .22 caliber bullet -- almost facilitated VP George Bush's ascendancy to the White House thereby sloughing off his second-banana status eight (8) years ahead of schedule! Vice President George Bush briefly flirted with a fast promotion.

Crouching on the sidewalk in front of the Washington Hilton, John Hinckley, Jr began firing six (6) explosive "devastator" bullets from his Rohm R6-14 revolver at Ronald Reagan. He survived after surgery at George Washington University Hospital where he told his wife Nancy: "Honey, I forgot to duck!"

Small world, indeed. For that very same day, John Hinckley's older brother Scott, had a dinner date with an old friend of the family: NEIL BUSH, son of the vice president! Scott Hinckley was vice president of his father's Denver-based firm, Vanderbilt Energy Corp.

What some saw as merely an odd "coincidence" prompted more conspiratorially attuned eyebrows to arch like divining rods. After all, what are the ODDS of the president's constitutional successor and the president's would-be assassin knowing each other?! Probably ZERO!

But the Bushes and Hinckleys went way back, to Texas of the 1960s, where both George Bush and John Hinckley, Sr had amassed personal fortunes in the booming oil industry. Both were blue bloods who circulated in the same privileged circles, which the transplanted aristocrats liked to call their "Texas Raj."

* In the NBC special reports aired immediately after the shooting, correspondent Judy Woodruff said that at least one (1) shot was fired from the hotel ABOVE Reagan's limousine. She later elaborated saying a Secret Service agent had fired that shot from the hotel overhang. Could Reagan's wound have been inflicted by friendly fire? Did we glimpse a bona fide "second gunman" a la JFK in Dealey Plaza?

Either way, Woodruff's account might explain HOW a slug managed to strike Reagan when his limo's bulletproof door stood BETWEEN him and Hinckley. Sizing up the Bush-Hinckley nexus, conspiracy sentry John Judge has theoretically dubbed this "the shot from the Bushy knoll."

* In October 1980, Hinckley, Jr flew to Nashville to stalk Jimmy Carter, but was arrested at the airport when authorities discovered three (3) handguns in his suitcase. Oddly, after ONLY FIVE (5) HOURS IN CUSTODY, this unstable and antisocial pariah -- who had attempted to transport weapons across state lines and into a city soon to be visited by the president of the United States -- was fined and RELEASED without further ado! Even more oddly, authorities apparently didn't bother to examine his journal, which in "Dear Diary" fashion, detailed Hinckley's plans to kill Carter! Was this a case of bumbling negligence or something more ominous?

* Finally, a pall of suspicion quite naturally fell over VP George "Poppy" Bush the preppy achiever and future president whose spooky pedigree was longer than a Texas stretch limo. Like his father before him, Bush, Sr was a member of Yale's elite "Skull and Bones Society," which had weaned more than a few powerhouse pols, Wall Street lions, CIA "black world" superstars and a 1980s group of disgruntled intel operatives known loosely as "Agents for Bush" who had been fired by CIA Director Admiral Stansfield Turner under the Carter administration.

* There are also a couple of parallels between Hinckley, Sirhan Sirhan [assassinated Robert Kennedy on 6-5-1968], Mark David Chapman [John Lennon's assassin on 12-8-1980], Arthur Herman Bremer [Alabama Gov. George Wallace's would-be assassin on 5-15-72] and Patrick Purdy, the commando-geared gunman who slaughtered five (5) Vietnamese children, and wounded another 30, in a Stockton, CA, school yard on Tuesday, January 17, 1989. ALL were heavily dosed with psychiatric drugs -- mind-control drugs by definition.

Purdy strode coolly onto that playground, pumping away with his Chinese-style, semi-automatic AK-47 assault rifle firing 104 full-metal-jacketed MILITARY-TYPE bullets loaded in 7.62 X 39mm cartridges with the same GLAZED-EYED ROBOTIC DEMEANOR CHARACTERISTIC of one-day spree killers. Many of those killers are dosed with mood-altering drugs, a fact little publicized when such tragedies occur.

Before drawing his gun to shoot at Reagan, Hinckley has said that he had hoped someone would STOP him. As he drew his gun, he felt, "Now, I have NO choice." He said he felt "relieved" once the shooting was over. Like Chapman and Sirhan before him, he squeezed out bullet after bullet, then became preternaturally calm, as if his PREDETERMINED MISSION/FUNCTION function was now complete.

Perhaps, Hinckley, Purdy, et al., were the victims of psychiatry gone berserk, monsters manufactured by accident. OR perhaps they were DELIBERATELY PROGRAMMED MIND CONTROLLED ASSASSINS [CIA's MK-ULTRA] courtesy of a little known, hole-in-the-wall USG "black world" agency that "takes care of things" outside of normal channels.

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Written, researched and compiled by Victor Martinez 

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Release 27a

RELEASE 27a - Reagan Briefing

Transcript of classified tape recording made at Camp David, Maryland during a presidential briefing regarding the subject of UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECTS and EXTRATERRESTRIAL VISITATION of EARTH. President RONALD REAGAN was present. The recording was made between March 6 and 8, 1981.

WILLIAM CASEY: Mr President, good morning. As we discussed in February, this briefing contains some very sensational and some very, very classified information. I am not sure, oh, well, I'm not going to make a decision on who you want in the room. That will be your decision, Mr President. This will be a real tough one to follow since the briefing starts back, historically speaking, that is, and runs up to recent times. I believe we have prepared a good chronological order of events. I'm sure you, Mr President, will have many questions.

The list of questions presented to me by ADVISER #2 should all be answered during this briefing. I hope they are, more than anyone, especially you, Mr President, leave this briefing with questions still unanswered. I have asked The Caretaker to conduct this briefing. He is a contract employee of the CIA and is the present custodian of the information. Are we to assume that everyone is present?

PRESIDENT: Well, it will be entirely up to you, Bill. I guess everyone must be cleared for this briefing of information, is that not correct?

WM CASEY: Well, it appears everyone is, but as you will see Mr President, this stuff is pretty high up on the food chain. We call it ATS or "Above Top Secret." This stuff has its own classification and markings. We have a special container, special printers and copiers for this stuff. Every word of this material is printed on special paper then placed inside special covers. The caretakers have taken special efforts to protect all of this stuff from being released inadvertently or copied by some unauthorized person.

But all of this material is protected by a special group of people. The Caretaker is in charge of protecting this information and all of the other stuff associated with this information. I would prefer that you, Mr President, decide on who you want in this room. Remember, this material is a closely guarded secret. Although the gist of the story has been out there for many years, very little of the ACTUAL TRUTH has ever been released to the public. Oh, yes, well, by some of the renegades maybe, but many of them have been discredited.

PRESIDENT: OK, Bill, I guess we need ADVISER #1, you, ADVISER #3 and Caspar here. I think ADVISER #2 and Michael can leave.

ADVISER #2: Mr President, excuse me, but I would prefer to leave. I don't wish to know this information. You know, plausible denial or something like that.

MICHAEL DEAVER: Mr President, whatever you wish, I'll do. It would be an interesting subject, but do I really have a need to know? No, I don't think so.

PRESIDENT: OK, I guess that is it.

WM CASEY: Thank you, Mr President. I will now turn the briefing over to The Caretaker.

ADVISER #3: Mr President, and Mr Director, I already had this briefing. I can stay or leave. Secretary Weinberger and myself received this a few weeks ago.

SECRETARY WEINBERGER: Mr President, as you know, we have some pending business regarding that Soviet problem in Berlin. I think we might just handle that. ADVISER #3 and I will let you close this meeting to just a few.

PRESIDENT: OK, Casp, I guess you and ADVISER #3 can leave. Thanks for coming.

WM CASEY: OK, Mr President, that certainly narrows the audience. I think this is just right.

PRESIDENT: OK, well, I can't wait to hear this. Let's proceed.

The CARETAKER: Good morning, Mr President. First of all, I would like to give you a bit of information on my background. But before that, please, Mr President, if you have questions during this briefing, just interrupt me, sir. I have been employed by the CIA for the past 31 years. I started the caretaking status of this project in 1960. We have a special group of people whom we call "Group 6," that cares for all this information.

PRESIDENT: Good morning, I hope, well, I believe I will ask questions. Bill briefed me back in January, but I'm not sure ... huh ... well, was it detailed, no, I don't think so ... huh ... OK, well I'm sure Bill didn't tell me all 'cause we only had about one hour.

WM CASEY: Mr President, I only gave you a quick briefing for the NSDD (National Security Decision Directives) that we want to incorporate into the overall action directives about this subject. ADVISER #3, Caspar and I have details far beyond what I knew before January. The last administration wasn't too keen on making all of this stuff accessible to us during the briefings in November and December.

PRESIDENT: Well, I knew a little about this subject before. Back in 1970. Nixon had all of the good stuff and wanted to share it with some of his friends. Nixon showed me some papers. Not sure about who authored them, but they ... huh ... well something about New Mexico and other places. Nixon was pretty ... huh ... well, you know, fascinated with it. He showed me something, some kind of object or device that came from one of their craft. Something that was taken from the New Mexico crash site. I don't know if, well ... huh ... do we know what it was? I don't think we knew or maybe now, after 11 years, we might know.

The CARETAKER: Mr President, I can answer some of those questions. Do you wish for me to begin?

PRESIDENT: Oh, well, what level is this? I mean, what was it called? I don't remember what they called this.

WM CASEY: Mr President, codeword. It's called Top Secret Codeword. This information is beyond Top Secret as I said before. It has its own classification. It is very compartmentalized.

PRESIDENT: Well, I guess just the minimum. Are we recording this?

The CARETAKER: Mr President, no, unless you wish.

WM CASEY: Yes, it is [CIA FEMALE TRANSCRIBER] who is doing that. I think we should. I don't want to make any mistakes later about this. ADVISER #4 should also stay, since he is one of the caretakers of the information.

PRESIDENT: Well, I don't want anyone leaking this stuff. Not knowing what we are about to discuss ... huh ... oh, well, Bill I guess it is your call. ADVISER #4 should stay. I guess he should ... huh ... oh, OK, well, you make the call, Bill.

WM CASEY: OK, I guess ADVISER #4 will stay. But I think [CIA FEMALE TRANSCRIBER] must stay. I'll make that call.

PRESIDENT: OK, I guess we can do our business first, give me a few minutes. Let's get some food first, or snacks. How long will ... huh .... oh, about one hour?

The CARETAKER: Mr President, I estimate this will last about one hour, at least the first part of it. This is a very complicated subject to brief. I can do it, but maybe the questions will extend [beyond the first] the time period.

PRESIDENT: OK, I see. Let's take a break and then reconvene.

(Break)

The CARETAKER: OK, Mr President, are we ready?

PRESIDENT: Yes, we are, let's go.

The CARETAKER: Mr President, as was mentioned earlier, I must say, that this briefing has the highest classification within the U.S. government. I will start with a slide presentation. I have most of this briefing on the slides, but I also have an outline that I have passed out to each [person] in attendance.

PRESIDENT: Oh, OK, so are we ... can we follow it with the [outline] paper?

The CARETAKER: Yes, Mr President, you can follow the briefing with the outline in front of you.

PRESIDENT: Thank you.

The CARETAKER: The United States of America has been visited by Extraterrestrial Visitors since 1947. We have proof of that. However, we also have some proof that Earth has been visited for many THOUSANDS OF YEARS by various races of Extraterrestrial Visitors. Mr President, I'll just refer to those visits as ETs. In July, 1947, a remarkable event occurred in New Mexico. During a storm, two ET spacecraft crashed. One crashed southwest of Corona, New Mexico and one crashed near Datil, New Mexico. The U.S. Army eventually found both sites and recovered all of the debris and one live Alien. I'll refer to this live Alien as "EBE 1." PRESIDENT: What does that mean? Do we have codes or a special terminology for this?

The CARETAKER: Mr President, EBE means "Extraterrestrial Biological Entity." It was a code designated to this creature by the U.S. Army back in those days. This creature was not human and we had to decide on a term for it. So, scientists designated the creature as EBE 1. We also referred to it as "Noah." There was different terminology used by various aspects of the U.S. military and intelligence community back then.

PRESIDENT: Do we or did we have others? The number "1" would seem to indicate we had others.

The CARETAKER: Yes, we had others. Back then, the term was EBE and no number designation. We'll explain how the others came into our knowledge.

PRESIDENT: OK, sorry, I was just wondering and I guess, well, I'm sure the briefing will cover this. Please continue.

The CARETAKER: All the debris and EBEs recovered from the first crash site were taken to Roswell Army Air Field, Roswell, New Mexico. EBE was treated for some minor injuries and then taken to Los Alamos National Laboratories, which was the safest and most secure location in the world. Special accommodations were made for EBE. The debris was eventually transferred to Dayton, Ohio, home of the Air Force Foreign Technology Division. The second crash site wasn't discovered until 1949 by some ranchers. There were no live Aliens at this site. All this debris went to Sandia Army Base in Albuquerque, New Mexico.

PRESIDENT: OK, a question, regarding the first site, how many aliens were in the spaceship?

The CARETAKER: Five (5) dead aliens and one (1) alive. The bodies of the dead aliens were transported to Wright Field in Ohio and kept in a form of deep freeze. They were later transported to Los Alamos where special containers were made to keep the bodies from decaying. There were four (4) dead aliens in the second crash site. Those bodies were in an advanced state of decaying. They had been in the desert for the past two (2) years. Animals and time got to those bodies. The remains were transported to Sandia Base and eventually onto Los Alamos. We determined both crashed spaceships were of similar design and the bodies of the aliens were all identical. They looked exactly the same. They had the same height, weight and physical features. Here are the photographs of the aliens.

(Pause)

PRESIDENT: Can we classify them? I mean can we ... well, connect them with anything Earthly?

The CARETAKER: No, Mr President. They don't have any similar characteristics of a human, with exception of there eyes, ears and a mouth. Their internal body organs are different. Their skin is different, their eyes, ears and even breathing is different. Their blood wasn't red and their brain was entirely different from human. We could not classify any part of the Aliens with humans. They had blood and skin, although considerably different than human skin. Their eyes had two different eyelids. Probably because their home planet was very bright.

PRESIDENT: Maybe I'm getting ahead, but do we know where they came from? Mars, our system or where?

The CARETAKER: Yes, Mr President, we do know where they come from. I can go into this now, or I can wait until it comes up in the briefing.

PRESIDENT: No, no, please, continue. I can wait.

The CARETAKER: Thank you, Mr President. EBE stayed alive until 1952 when it died. We learned a great deal from EBE. Although EBE did not have voice organs like humans, it was able to communicate with an operation performed by military doctors. EBE was extremely intelligent. It learned English quickly, mainly by listening to the military personnel who were responsible for EBE's safety and care.

EBE was housed in a special area at Los Alamos and Sandia Base. Although many different military doctors, scientists and a select number of civilians studied EBE, it never became upset or angry. EBE helped us learn from all the items found in the two crash sites. EBE showed us how some of the items worked, such as a communications device. It also showed us how various other devices worked.

PRESIDENT: Excuse me, but you are referring to this creature as an IT. Did it have a gender?

The CARETAKER: I'm sorry Mr President, but yes, it was male. Within EBE's race they had males and females.

PRESIDENT: OK, thank you. Please continue.

The CARETAKER: Thank you, Mr President. EBE died of what military doctors considered natural causes. I don't think we could really state exactly why EBE died. Although we had five (5) years to study EBE, we didn't have any standards to compare EBE's body with standard medical observations. It was difficult to lose EBE, since it was the most interesting thing we as humans could receive and study. A visitor from another planet ... ANOTHER WORLD. EBE did explain where he lives in the universe. We call this star system Zeta Reticuli, which is about 40 light-years [38.42] from Earth. EBE's planet was within this star system.

PRESIDENT: OK, where is this in comparison to something we all know?

The CARETAKER: Well, Mr President, our closet star is four light-years away. I can show you the constellation it is in.

[Alpha Centauri, a yellow star, is the brightest star in the constellation Centaurus, 4.3 light-years away]

PRESIDENT: No, I wouldn't know much about astronomy. I just thought I could understand the distance. How long did it take this spaceship to get here?

The CARETAKER: Well, Mr President, I can tell you now or we can discuss that in another briefing. As Mr Casey said, this is a complicated subject because there are many levels of compartmentalization. This briefing is just the basic information about a visit to our planet by one particular alien race.

PRESIDENT: Well ... huh ... what, am I to understand ... this isn't a full briefing?

WM CASEY: Mr President, we have different levels of stuff. If we mix it up, I don't think it will make sense, nor will we have time this morning. I understand you have a busy schedule today.

PRESIDENT: As the President of the United States, I should know EVERYTHING, right, or shouldn't I? If I am to assume this was a briefing of substance, then I should hear ALL of it. I think this is more important than some other things on my daily calendar. But maybe I'm jumping the gun. If there are some things I shouldn't know, please tell me.

WM CASEY: No, no, Mr President, I didn't mean you shouldn't know this stuff. I simply meant we should proceed in an orderly fashion as to the briefing. But it is up to you. We will not hold anything back.

PRESIDENT: ADVISER #1, what do you think? Do you know about all this?

ADVISER #1: Mr President, yes, I was briefed many times on this subject matter. As Director Casey stated, this is a very, very complicated subject. I think it took me about one year to be fully briefed into all aspects of this matter. There are different areas. The initial crash, an investigative period, some attempt at contact, A DISINFORMATION OPERATION to protect this matter and several other levels.

PRESIDENT: Oh, wow, I didn't realize how complicated this was. I'm new at [all of] this. I have a great responsibility to the citizens of this nation to make decisions based on accurate information presented by my advisers ... YOU, ALL of you. I won't interfere in your presentation of this information. So, I guess, we'll proceed in the order you have chosen. I'm sorry for interrupting in this presentation, but as a person who is interested beyond belief in this, I'll just shut up and wait to ask questions.

WM CASEY: Mr President. No, no, please ask any questions you wish. You are the President. We are not here to argue with you over the order of this briefing. But some things are SO HIGHLY CLASSIFIED that THIS BRIEFING IS THE LOWEST LEVEL. If you ask a question that is in a different level, then we will have to re-evaluate the audience.

ADVISER #1: Mr President. Everything we know about Alien visitation to Earth is contained in 16 (sixteen) volumes of binders. These binders contain thousands of pages. We can give you anything you wish but, as Director Casey said, we must evaluate the clearances of each person listening to our responses.

PRESIDENT: OK, I now understand. Give me whatever you want and I'll continue to ask questions. But if you need me to wait on an answer, just tell me.

WM CASEY: OK, Mr President we will do that. I still don't know the entire story. I have read one tenth of one binder and have hundreds of questions.

PRESIDENT: OK, let's continue.

The CARETAKER: Mr President, thank you for those responses. I will answer any question, if I can. But if the question is above this level, then Director Casey will have to make that decision for me.

PRESIDENT: I fully understand, please continue.

The CARETAKER: It took the EBE spaceship nine (9) of our months to travel the 40 [38.42] light-years. Now, as you can see, that would mean the EBE spaceship traveled faster than the speed of light. But, this is where it gets really technical. Their spaceships can travel through a form of "space tunnels" that gets them from point "A" to point "B" faster without having to travel at the speed of light. I cannot fully understand how they travel, but we have many top scientists who can understand their concept.

PRESIDENT: Well, I certainly couldn't understand the science in that. Is it a black hole?

The CARETAKER: Mr President, something like that, but much more complicated.

PRESIDENT: Do they get here ... no never mind, please continue. [unintelligible]

WM CASEY: Mr President, I can assure we know how they do it, but we can't do it.

PRESIDENT: OK. (several speaking at once)

The CARETAKER: As to some history. The original project, started back in 1947, was called "Project GLEEM." This project contained volumes of documented information collected from the beginning of our investigation of UFOs and Identified Alien Craft, or "IAC." The project was originally established in the early '50s by, first President Truman and then by order of President Eisenhower, under control of the National Security Council. President Truman established a group of people to handle this project. The group was called Majority 12 or "MJ-12."

In 1966, the project's name was changed to "Aquarius." The project was funded by confidential ["black world"] funds appropriated within the intelligence community's budget. The recovery of these alien spacecraft led the United States on an extensive investigative program to determine whether these aliens posed a direct threat to our National Security. As you might remember, Mr President, our country openly investigated UFO sightings under projects Grudge, Sign and finally Blue Book.

The original mission of the Air Force program was to collect and analyze all reported sightings and incidents involving UFOs and then determine whether the information could be interpreted as having any bearing on the national security of the United States. Some information was evaluated with the idea of using the gained data to advance our own space technology and future space programs.

About 90% of the estimated 12,000 reports analyzed by the Air Force under Blue Book were considered hoaxes, explained aerial phenomena or astronomical objects. The other 10% were considered legitimate alien sightings and/or incidents. However, not all UFO sightings or incidents were reported under the Air Force programs of Grudge, Sign and Blue Book.

In 1953, Project Gleem initiated its own investigative detail and certain sightings were reported directly under Gleem rather than one of the other projects. Project Gleem, which became "Project AQUARIUS" in 1966, was a parallel reporting system for UFO sightings and incidents.

Reports collected under Project Aquarius were considered actual sightings of alien spacecraft or actual contacts with alien life forms. We recovered two alien spacecraft from New Mexico. Both were heavily damaged, but we were able to examine them. The two craft were considered technological marvels by our scientists. However, the operating instrumentation was so advanced that our scientists could not decipher it. The two craft were stored in a special security location in the West. We gained a large volume of technological data from these craft.

Several independent scientific investigations, at the request of the Air Force and CIA were initiated during the era of "Project Blue Book." MJ-12 decided that officially the Air Force should end their investigation of UFO sightings. This decision was arrived at during the NPNN meeting in 1966. The reason was two fold. First, the United States had established communications with the aliens.

PRESIDENT: Hold on, OK ... well, Bill, no ... never mind, please continue.

WM CASEY: Mr President, the communications project is of a higher level. I recommend we continue on this course and then switch to the next, if we have time.

PRESIDENT: OK, you're steering the boat, Bill.

The CARETAKER: The United States felt relatively sure the aliens' exploration of Earth was non-aggressive and non-hostile. It was also established that the aliens' presence did not directly threaten the security of the United States. Secondly, the public was beginning to believe that UFOs were real. The NSC felt this public feeling could lead to a nationwide panic if we disclosed everything we knew about UFOs and alien visitation. We were involved in one major operation during this time frame that involved our alien visitors. That operation is of a higher level and it will be up to Director Casey to proceed now or wait until later.

WM CASEY: We'll wait on that part of it. I haven't been fully briefed and I would like to be able to know everything about that program before trying to brief the President.

ADVISER #1: I agree with Director Casey. That part of the program is really complicated and will require a full day to brief.

PRESIDENT: OK, as I said before, Bill's the captain of this ship.

The CARETAKER: It was felt that public awareness of these projects would have jeopardized the future space program of the United States. Releasing our secrets about UFOs and alien visitation would also cause a PANIC AMONG RELIGIOUS LEADERS around the world. Therefore, MJ-12 decided that an independent scientific study of the UFO phenomena would be needed to satisfy the public curiosity.

The final official study of the UFO phenomena was accomplished by the University of Colorado under an air force contract. The study concluded that sufficient data did not exist that would indicate that UFOs threatened the security of the United States. The final conclusion satisfied the Government and allowed the Air Force to officially step out of the UFO investigating business.

When the Air Force officially closed "Blue Book" in December 1969, Project Aquarius continued operation under control of NSC/MJ-12. The NSC felt investigation of UFO sightings and incidents had to continue in secrecy without any public knowledge. The reasoning behind the decision was this: If the Air Force continued its investigation of UFOs, eventually some non-cleared and non-briefed Air Force or DOD civilian officials would obtain the facts behind Project Aquarius.

Obviously, for operational security reasons, this could not be allowed. In order to continue the investigation of UFO sightings and incidents in secrecy, investigators from CIA/DCE and MJ-12 were assigned to military investigative units with orders to investigate all legitimate UFO/IAC sightings and incidents. These agents are presently operating at various locations throughout the U.S. and Canada. All reports are filtered either directly or indirectly to MJ-12. These agents are collecting reports of UFO/IAC sightings and incidents occurring on or near sensitive governmental installations.

Many reported sightings and incidents have occurred over nuclear weapons bases. The aliens' interest in our nuclear weapons can only be attributed to the future threat of a nuclear war on Earth that could affect space. The Air Force has initiated measures to assure the security of the nuclear weapons from alien theft or destruction. MJ-12 feels confident that the aliens are on an exploration of our solar system for peaceful purposes. However, we do have information and that is at another level, that more than one alien species are visiting Earth.

PRESIDENT: Well, that is a lot to digest. I have written down many questions. But let's take a break and come back to this.

(Break)

PRESIDENT: I think we can continue now.

The CARETAKER: Thank you, Mr President. I will continue. In the 1976 MJ-12 report, it was estimated that the aliens' technology was many thousands of years ahead of ours. Our scientists speculated that until our technology develops to a level equal to the aliens, we cannot understand the large volume of scientific information we have gained from the aliens' craft. This advancement of our technology may take many hundreds of years.

During our initial program to study the alien's spaceship, we started many different projects. The first project, originally established in 1949, was to collect and evaluate medical information from the surviving alien creature -- EBE 1 and the recovered alien bodies. This project medically examined EBE 1 and provided our medical researchers with many answers to the evolution theories.

The next project originally established as part of Project Gleem in 1954 became a separate project in 1966. Its mission was to establish communication with aliens. This project met with positive success and will be discussed later under a different level. Two other projects involved the test flying of an alien ship and the cross technology between our space program and the information we obtained from EBE 1.

WM CASEY: Now, Mr President, we can move on to questions or a different level. Which do you prefer?

PRESIDENT: Well, I have a lot of questions, so let me ask a few and then we can move on. I guess the first question I have is their life span. How old is EBE 1?

The CARETAKER: Mr President, the alien civilization that EBE came from [is what] we call the Eben Society. It wasn't a name they gave us; it was a name we chose. Their life span is between 350-400 years, but that is Earth years.

PRESIDENT: Is time the same on their planet as on ours?

The CARETAKER: No, Mr President, time is very different on the Eben Planet, which, by the way, we call SERPO. Their day is approximately 40 hours. That is measured by the movement of their two (2) suns. The solar system containing SERPO is a binary star system, or two suns, rather than one, like our solar system.

PRESIDENT: Oh, well, your answer creates more questions. OK, as I understand it, their planet has two suns. Wouldn't that mean the planet was hot? I guess that explains their eyes, having two eyelids.

The CARETAKER: Yes, Mr President. Their suns do not set, like ours. There is daylight during their entire day, with the exception of a short time period where both suns hit the horizon.

PRESIDENT: What is life like on Serpico?

The CARETAKER: Mr President, it is called SERPO, spelled S-E-R-P-O. I think that will have to be given in a different level of briefings. Mr Director....

WM CASEY: Yes, Mr President, I think we are getting way ahead of ourselves. We have all that information about the visitor's planet, but we would have to present that information in a different briefing.

PRESIDENT: OK, all these levels. Something, I guess, I'll have to ... well, I'll have to get used to it. Does all classified information have these different levels?

WM CASEY: It is similar to the SIOP briefing you were given in January. We have different levels of clearances and....

PRESIDENT: No, I understand all that, Bill. I fully understand the different levels of clearances. I mean, what about the Soviets? What about the spy operations we have in Russia, comparing the two, this alien information to that, are they on the same level?

WM CASEY: No, Mr President. This information would be considered at the very top, whereas our spying operation inside Russia would be considered at a parallel level, but not the same.

PRESIDENT: Like apples and oranges, OK, I see. I guess this is more that can be explained in one sitting. What about the travel from SERPO to Earth?

The CARETAKER: Well, Mr President, the distance from Earth to SERPO is about 40 light-years. They can travel that in about nine (9) of our months. I am no scientist, but as I mentioned earlier, they can travel that great distance by means of space tunnels. They seem to be able to bend the distance from one point in space to another. Just how they do this, must be explained scientifically.

PRESIDENT: OK, well, very interesting. Are the laws of physics on their planet the same as our planet?

The CARETAKER: Not exactly. There seem to be a little different laws, especially when it comes to the movement of their planet in relationship to their two suns. Our scientists don't understand it because it defies some of our laws of physics.

PRESIDENT: Do they use nuclear power, or what type of power do they have in those ships?

The CARETAKER: Mr President, we understand very little about their propulsion system. There seem to be two different propulsion systems. One they use within our atmosphere and one they use once they exit our atmosphere. They do not have nuclear power. Their propulsion system does have some type of low level radiation emissions, but nothing that would endanger us. It isn't like our radiation, but we call it radiation because we have nothing else to compare it with.

PRESIDENT: Have these aliens visited other places on earth?

The CARETAKER: Again, Mr President, that would be in a different level of discussion.

PRESIDENT: I'm getting tired of hearing that answer, but I understand.

WM CASEY: Mr President, the Soviet Union has had their contacts with these aliens. We have a great deal of intelligence that would indicate the Soviets had their "Roswell," so to speak. What they know is about the same as we know. They had some bodies back in the late '50s, but our intelligence would indicate the species of aliens were different.

[SEE: http://www.serpo.org/release26a.php]

PRESIDENT: OK, well, then Bill, that presents a very disturbing feeling for me. Are you telling me there are different races or species, as you said, visiting Earth at the same time?

WM CASEY: CARETAKER, take that question.

The CARETAKER: Yes, Mr President, but I hesitate to state the reason. We should have that discussion in a different meeting.

PRESIDENT: Just answer the simple question of how many different species, don't go into details, since I'm sure it is at "a different level," as I've been hearing ALL morning!

The CARETAKER: I am sorry Mr President if I upset you....

PRESIDENT: No, no, Caretaker, don't feel that way. I am not upset. No, you are all of my advisers. As President, I must listen to YOU and take YOUR advice. I am NOT upset. I'm sorry for giving you that impression. Can you tell me how many different species have visited us?

The CARETAKER: Mr Director?

WM CASEY: Go ahead, Caretaker, answer the President's question.

The CARETAKER: At least five (5).

PRESIDENT: Are they all friendly?

The CARETAKER: Mr Director?

WM CASEY: Adviser #1, would you like to step in here?

ADVISER #1: Mr President, that is a very difficult question to answer. There are many parameters that we follow to evaluate the threat. However, we have little intelligence on four (4) of the five (5). We have plenty of intel on the Ebens ... gee ... they've given us everything we asked for! They have also helped us to understand the other four (4) species. I'm afraid to say, Mr President and please don't misunderstand my words, but we think ONE OF THE SPECIES IS VERY HOSTILE. WM CASEY: Mr President, do you wish for us to continue on this track or would you like something more private, as to the discussion of this topic?

PRESIDENT: For Christ sakes, I'm the President of the United States. I should know if we are endangered by some THREAT FROM OUTER SPACE. If you have something to say about a threat posed by this one species of aliens, then I WANT TO HEAR IT.

WM CASEY: Mr President, we have intelligence that would indicate this one (1) species of aliens have ABDUCTED PEOPLE FROM EARTH. They have performed scientific and medical tests on these humans. To the best of our knowledge, NO humans have been killed. But, as ADVISER #1 stated, the intelligence is from witnesses and we haven't thoroughly evaluated this intelligence.

We have captured one of these hostile aliens. This gets into some very, very sensitive areas, Mr President. I strongly suggest we end this discussion and move on to any further questions you might have and then get back to this. I don't think we are prepared to provide you with accurate answers to your questions about the potentially hostile aliens at this time.

PRESIDENT: OK, but expect this to be given to me as soon as possible. I want to KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT THESE HOSTILE CREATURES so I .... or I mean we should start forming policies on how to deal with them. Adviser #1, do we have OPERATIONAL WAR PLANS on this?

ADVISER #1: Yes, Mr President, we have war plans on ALL potential threats to our country.

PRESIDENT: Please, let us not forget the world. If these creatures attack some other country, we would have to help.

ADVISER #1: Mr President, we have absolutely NO evidence that this particular alien race has any plans to attack the United States of America or planet Earth.

PRESIDENT: I guess we really got off the original subject. But I want to know of any threats. DON'T HIDE ANYTHING FROM ME! Is that understood?

WM CASEY: Yes, Sir.

ADVISER #1: Yes, Sir, Mr President. We will NEVER hide any information about a potential threat to our country or the world. You receive daily intel briefings and you will continue to and we can update that briefing with any potential threat from this area.

PRESIDENT: OK, let us continue. How many other presidents received this briefing?

The CARETAKER: Mr President, I have briefed President Nixon, Ford and you. President Carter was never given the entire briefing. I have no answer as to why he wasn't given the briefing.

PRESIDENT: Well, knowing that guy, he probably couldn't understand it being from Georgia! But that is just a dry joke.... (laughter heard in room)

 


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PRESIDENT RONALD REAGAN's TRIPS TO CAMP DAVID

      1981
      January 30 - February 1
      February 6 - 8
      February 13 - 16
      MARCH 6 - 8       <== NOTE THESE DATES
      April 25 - 27
      May 8 - 10
      June 5 - 7
      June 8 - 9
      June 19 - 21
      July 10 - 12
      July 25 - 26
      July 31 - August 2
      August 11 - 13
      September 18 - 20
      September 25 - 27
      October 2 - 4
      OCTOBER 9 - 12       <== NOTE THESE DATES
      October 30 - November 1
      December 11 - 13

Photo of President Reagan and Nancy Reagan at Camp David,
Maryland, 7/2/88. Photo courtesy of the Ronald Reagan Library.
 

ADVISER #1: Mr President, I can give you some details of an incident that occurred inside the Soviet Union in 1970.

WM CASEY: Do we want to go there?

ADVISER #4: May I say something, Mr Director?

WM CASEY: Go ahead, ADVISER #4, step in.

ADVISER #4: I think this particular incident inside the Soviet Union will give the President an example of what the world has and will experience in the future. There is no way we can control visitors from outer space from traveling to Earth and visiting our planet. Some astronomers find it difficult to believe that these aliens can find Earth. We are on the outer reaches of our galaxy. Our sun is one of hundreds of thousands of such stars within our galactic neighborhood. But the Ebens found us, they found Earth. And we are not the only country on Earth that has been visited by the Ebens.

Now, as for the other four (4) species. We know they have visited us in the past and will visit us in the future. We are like a petri dish within the universe. We are a diverse planet. We must be very interesting to other extraterrestrials. I'm SURE other intelligent life forms in the universe must have some sort of communications among the [sentient] life forms. Maybe they broadcasted that Earth has intelligent life. Maybe that is why we are [being] visited.

Getting back to ADVISER #1, regarding the incident inside the Soviet Union, Mr President, there are many such sightings all over the world. We must understand that the visitors can roam our planet at will without us doing much about it. However, I personally believe that we must prepare for the EVENTUAL DAY WHEN SOME HOSTILE LIFE FORM DECIDES TO TAKE OVER OUR PLANET. We must be prepared. I hope you understand why I said what I said, Mr President.

PRESIDENT: Yes, indeed, ADVISER #4, very well said. I agree with you. I guess all of those sightings ... well, some of them are real .... I mean, we are being visited, today, now, in this time period.

WM CASEY: Yes, Mr President, we are.

PRESIDENT: OK, ADVISER #1, please continue, we cut you off.

ADVISER #1: OK, thanks, Mr President. As I was saying, actually a series of incidents occurred over about a week. Our intelligence gathering stations inside and outside of the Soviet Union picked up voice transmissions between Soviet Air Defense pilots and ground controllers regarding a number of UFOs which were being chased by Soviet pilots. The incident started in central Siberia and ended over the Black Sea.

Literally thousands of Soviets observed the UFOs and at least 20 different fighter pilots chased the UFOs. The Soviets attempted on two occasions to shoot down the UFOs, but to no avail. That is probably the best evidence that these things are happening over the Soviet Union. We think these UFOs were the hostile ones. We call them hostile because they tend to land, take humans, conduct experiments on them and then release the humans. Their spacecraft are different in design than the Ebens.

PRESIDENT: Wait one minute, ADVISER #1, you mean to say that we have one of their spaceships? Or are you telling me we have some other evidence of their spaceships?

ADVISER #1: Mr President, we have photographs of their ships. This gets a little complicated because some of our intelligence comes from the Ebens.

PRESIDENT: You mean from the EBE guy?

ADVISER #1: Yes, but from other sources of information connected to the Ebens.

WM CASEY: Mr President, we'll have to go to those dreaded words you don't like ... higher levels if you wish.

PRESIDENT: No, well, no ... oh ... OK ... just give me this briefing first. We can schedule the higher level ones later.

ADVISER #1: Simply speaking, we know the difference between the Eben spacecraft and the hostile aliens' spacecraft.

PRESIDENT: Do you have a ... huh ... name for them, I mean the bad ones?

The CARETAKER: May I interrupt, Mr President?

WM CASEY: Wait, OK, I guess we can proceed.

PRESIDENT: Well, huh. (Too many speaking at once; several conversations not understood.)

? (Not understood) ?

The CARETAKER: OK.... (Several sentences said, but not understood.)

WM CASEY: Yes, go ahead, CARETAKER.

PRESIDENT: No, I didn't mean to interrupt.

The CARETAKER: Thank you, Mr President. We call the hostile aliens simply that, HAV, meaning Hostile Alien Visitors. MJ-12 placed that code on them back in the '50s.

WM CASEY: OK, we opened the box so let's just tell the president what we know about the others.

ADVISER #1: The names? What? (Several sentences not understood.) OK, well, technical? Or what?

WM CASEY: (Not understood), well, (not understood), OK, I guess it means the technical stuff.

PRESIDENT: You mean to say, these H-A-Vs have been visiting us and kidnapping our people since the '50s?

The CARETAKER: Mr President, yes, well, they have been around since then, Director Casey....

WM CASEY: Mr President, we have some indication that they might have been doing this for some time. But we really have to consider all of the evidence, listed in our reports, and compare that to some of the open source information. There are always humans that will exaggerate and just tell lies, compared to the real ones or the ones who were abducted and subjected to experiments. We have to sort through the differences and place some aside and look at the real evidence of abductions. But we can be sure that the Ebens have NEVER done this. They are extremely peaceful and would not harm a living soul, including animals.

ADVISER #1: I suggest we go ahead and give the President the information on them.

ADVISER #4: I agree.

WM CASEY: OK, give the President the names, CARETAKER.

The CARETAKER: Names, the technical names?

WM CASEY: Yes, OK, (not understood) well about the (not understood) I can live with that, but we have to be real sure that this information stays HERE. We cannot allow this to flow (not understood) from (not understood).

The CARETAKER: OK, thank you. Mr President, the five (5) species are called, Ebens, Archquloids, Quadloids, Heplaloids and Trantaloids. These names were given to the alien's species by the intelligence community, specifically MJ-5. The Ebens are friendly; the Trantaloids are the dangerous ones.

[SEE: http://www.serpo.org/release23.php ]

PRESIDENT: My God, just knowing we have names for these things are amazing. Which one did we capture?

WM CASEY: Mr President, we have a Trantaloid, but it is dead. We captured it in 1961 in Canada and we had it in captivity until 1962, when it died. We'll show you a photograph ... CARETAKER?

The CARETAKER: Director, I don't have one with me. But, I will get one couriered over to us.

WM CASEY: Mr President, we can provide that during our next meeting regarding this subject.

PRESIDENT: OK.

WM CASEY: (not understood) ... the part of the story where (not understood), but we can look back.

PRESIDENT: OK, let's continue.

The CARETAKER: Mr President, getting back to my presentation, all of our collected information is safely contained in a number of locations.

PRESIDENT: Don't tell me where, I don't want to know specific locations. I'll let or leave that up to you and the caretakers of the material. I don't want to be in a position or know this ... maybe I will later.

The CARETAKER: OK, Mr President, I'll keep this in general terms. I just want to assure you that all of the information is safely tucked away at secure locations, including the devices and flying craft that we have.

PRESIDENT: May I assume one of these places is located in California?

The CARETAKER: Some of the items are tested at Livermore and flown around Edwards, but they are kept in Nevada.

PRESIDENT: OK, yes, I think I was briefed on sensitive military installations back in February ... west of Las Vegas, I guess.

The CARETAKER: Yes, Mr President. We call it the Groom Lake Complex.

PRESIDENT: OK, I was told about that. The same place we have Soviet fighter jets?

The CARETAKER: Yes, Mr President, the same place. May I continue?

PRESIDENT: Yes, by all means, do.

The CARETAKER: In order to protect all this information and the fact that the United States Government has evidence of our planet being visited by Extraterrestrials, we developed over the years a very effective program to safeguard the information. We call it "Project DOVE." It is a complex series of [disinformation] operations by our military intelligence agencies to disinform the public. As you know, Mr President, we have some highly classified aircraft.

In order to keep these aircraft secret, we tend to convince, at times, the public and press that maybe UFOs are real in order to make the public THINK what they are seeing are actually UFOs instead of OUR own secret aircraft even though we know maybe some of the sightings are of actual UFOs. As I said before, this is complicated, but it is a form of counterintelligence. We give the public some actual facts and let them run with it.

The rest is taken care of by them. If you consider the FIRST PERSON who helped us with this disinformation program, Mr GEORGE ADAMSKI, back in the early '50s, and up to all of the movie productions of UFO-related movies. This helps the public to keep their minds open, but also allows us to keep our secret aircraft away from the public's knowledge. That includes some of the craft that were lent to us by the Ebens.

PRESIDENT: I always knew there was some form of cooperation between our government and the motion picture industry. I heard rumors over the years ... even during my acting days.

The CARETAKER: Well, Mr President, the first cooperative venture was the movie, "The Day the Earth Stood Still." That was a cooperative venture with the United States Air Force and the movie industry.

PRESIDENT: That movie, "Close Encounters," was that one of them? I guess no "Bonzo" movies were involved. (Loud laughter heard.)

WM CASEY: No (laughing), Mr President, I don't think or should I say, I didn't think Bonzo came from outer space! (more laughter)

[RONALD REAGAN played the character Professor Peter Boyd in the Sept 1951 movie, "Bedtime for Bonzo" where a chimpanzee named Bonzo was his costar.

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PRESIDENT: No, but some people could imagine it!

The CARETAKER: Yes, Mr President, we provided the basic subject matter for that movie.

PRESIDENT: Was it based on a real incident?

WM CASEY: Mr President....

PRESIDENT: OK, Bill, I know what's coming, just forget my question for now.

WM CASEY: OK, CARETAKER, continue.

The CARETAKER: Thank you, Mr President. In 1949, President Truman created two (2) secret commissions. These commissions were to meet privately without recording any contents. The commissions were code named "Adam" and "Eve." The first commission, Adam, was to study the idea of releasing some information to the public regarding our actual knowledge of UFOs and the two (2) crash incidents.

The findings of the Adam commission consisted of the following statement: "In this matter, public opinion must be recognized as a factor of considerable importance, even if clearly affirmative might have the effect of placing before the American people a moral question of vital historical significance at a time when the full security impact of the question had not become apparent. If this decision is to be made by the American people, it should be made in the circumstances of an actual disclosure of the existence of space beings who had visited Earth. In other words, the American public might hesitate to believe the existence of space beings unless the American Government showed proof."